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I don't doubt that an iPad can replace a laptop for many people. A lot of people just need to be able to type up documents and occasionally make power points. Which an iPad meets.

However, an iPad is still hindered by iOS. The file system still needs a lot of work. Also not being able to download and instal 3rd party software is a huge issue. You can only use the app store to download applications.

And for me as a teacher there is software ( software such as active inspire) I need for my lessons and plans that aren't available on iOS or android platform. Being the ability to have multiple windows at one time definitely makes my work flow faster. I can't do that on an iPad.
Well even for the simple uses you describe the iPad is pretty poor beyond very basic or straighforward document (or ppt) writing.

That is assuming people don't write documents or do presentations out of thin air and need to prepare data, graphics, tables, photos or pictures.

Some times you can do that stuff on iPad but it requires more work that it is worth. Better to just take out a notebook.
 
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I don't doubt that an iPad can replace a laptop for many people. A lot of people just need to be able to type up documents and occasionally make power points. Which an iPad meets.

However, an iPad is still hindered by iOS. The file system still needs a lot of work. Also not being able to download and instal 3rd party software is a huge issue. You can only use the app store to download applications.

And for me as a teacher there is software ( software such as active inspire) I need for my lessons and plans that aren't available on iOS or android platform. Being the ability to have multiple windows at one time definitely makes my work flow faster. I can't do that on an iPad.

The great thing is that iPad can be an alternative to a laptop without needing to be a 1:1 replacement.
 
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20 pages!

It’s just an ad-line, and not even an exaggerated one. An iPad easily fulfils a dictionary definition of computer, and also the joe-public definition for many people.

I’ve needed to use a multi-monitor keyboard/mouse ‘computer’ for some tasks. I also bought an iPhone over ten years ago not because it was a phone but because I was excited that it was literally a ‘computer’ in my pocket.

Yes, different computers have plenty of individual uses. Great. The ad didn’t win you over. Erm, congratulations. You ...win?

Slow news day?
Just a slow day.
 
I love Apple. To an obsessive degree... I redirected an LA business trip to arrive at SF so that I could visit the Apple campus. Prior to the public beta program I used to pay for a developer acct. just to get early access to iOSes. I’ve owned pretty much every iPhone & Apple Watch and most major designs of iPad & Macbook. The last week of Sept. is pretty much my favourite time of year. I love them, I have a problem, and I own that.

But sally forth; The iPad IS a great device. iOS IS NOT a computer replacement.
 
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I love Apple. To an obsessive degree... I redirected an LA business trip to arrive at SF so that I could visit the Apple campus. Prior to the public beta program I used to pay for a developer acct. just to get early access to iOSes. I’ve owned pretty much every iPhone & Apple Watch and most major designs of iPad & Macbook. The last week of Sept. is pretty much my favourite time of year. I love them, I have a problem, and I own that.

But **** off. The iPad IS a great device. iOS IS NOT a computer replacement.

I haven't needed to upgrade from my 2011 MacBook Pro because the iPad has replaced it.

I still need an iMac for video editing and motion graphics, but that would be true if I had a 2018 MacBook Pro.

For years I needed a Desktop and a Laptop. Now I use a Desktop and an iPad.

The iPad can be a great alternative to a laptop.
 
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When will people realize they announced a new Air and Vega MBPs on the same day of the new iPP...on the same day...the message being, to each his own tool..

... and which product is Apple pushing? [Hint: it runs iOS]

Now ask, why?
 
Can I plug my XQD card reader into it to get photos off my camera? Probably not, so its not a computer.

From the one I tested, you can. Imported them right into Lightroom CC from a CFast card reader via the new iPad I demoed. The only reason I don't have a new iPad myself is my current one is still on contract so I'll wait for iPad Pro late 2019
 
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I love Apple. To an obsessive degree... I redirected an LA business trip to arrive at SF so that I could visit the Apple campus. Prior to the public beta program I used to pay for a developer acct. just to get early access to iOSes. I’ve owned pretty much every iPhone & Apple Watch and most major designs of iPad & Macbook. The last week of Sept. is pretty much my favourite time of year. I love them, I have a problem, and I own that.

But f*ck off. The iPad IS a great device. iOS IS NOT a computer replacement.
Aha! I think I suddenly understand the anger.

I think the new iPad Pro looks pretty nice. I’m very tempted. It’d be useful. I might buy it.

I wonder if a lot of people here that don’t like it are angry because, regardless, they’re more likely than me to buy it anyway.
 
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Hints aside, Apple is marketing all the products it sells. Some products just have a different target audience than others.

Not to be argumentative, but I just don't see consistent advertising for MB/MBA/MBPs. Sure Apple runs ads when it releases a new product, but its constant marketing push is for iPads and iPhones, not Macs.
 
Here is the reality, for most in the business world, not content creative folks. For most of us we see the Mac just like you see the iPad. See, unfortunately we need Windows to perform the functions required for our jobs. The software simply isn’t there for the Mac. Does it mean the Mac isn’t a powerful computer? Of course not. It’s just not the right tool for the right job.

Following that, for most of the functions that I want from a computer at home, an iPad or iPad Pro is an ideal computer. Photos, web browsing, messaging, email, news etc.

So we have to be open to the meaning of a computer to different people with different requirements. Most people aren’t using Xcode, etc. But if you are, by all means you need a Mac. But for most, I suspect an iPad is their computer most of the time.
 
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Not to be argumentative, but I just don't see consistent advertising for MB/MBA/MBPs. Sure Apple runs ads when it releases a new product, but its constant marketing push is for iPads and iPhones, not Macs.
I'm not sure what the budget is for different products, but not too long ago they had a "Behind the Mac" campaign specifically to focus on the Mac. Lately I've seen more ads for watchOS devices than i have for iOS devices to be honest.
 
I agree that it is all down to use case, it could easily by a laptop replacement for so many, just not any of you ^^
Exactly, for those people who use a "computer" for email/internet/games, which I would venture is a large percentage, an iPad is all they need. My wife for example hasn't touched a computer in years. Same is true for many people I know. For the rest, like myself, it would never work. Apple isn't claiming anything different, so most of the negative comments in this thread are unjustified.
 
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So you REALLY want to have a headphone-cable hanging around, when you can use something like THIS? (WiFi, NOT Bluetooth!)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HFYZDNC/

You are missing an important aspect to wired headphones, speakers, etc.--they never run out of battery and they never need anything other than the port connection to function (i.e. no wireless network, no BT connection which further drains the battery).

Look, I use wireless headphones and a wireless speaker when doing yard work because it is safer, but it is not difficult to run out of battery on wireless devices if you don't charge after EVERY use. Wired connections, while more messy, are more convenient and always work.
 
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Yeah, but my nine year old iMac runs Xcode just fine, so I'm not likely to upgrade it any time soon. An iPad on the other hand I'll upgrade quite often, and if it ran Xcode then I'd be buying more expensive iPad Pros instead (I might even want the 6GB RAM version). An $8,000 iMac Pro was never on the cards, so Apple aren't making any more money from me by keeping tasks off the iPad, they're just forcing me to use my old Mac instead of my new iPad.

(The above refers to a hypothetical me by the way, obviously as the kind of person who goes on MacRumours forums, the actual me buys the iPad Pro anyway.)
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Can't it? You can run Windows simulated in javascript in a browser.

Or even run classic MacOS using mini vMac (just mentioning it because... it's kindof awesome. But it'd be better with real mouse support on non jailbroken iPads).
 
Bring mouse support for those moments where I’m on a desk working and I am in.

I can clearly see my MacBook Pro 15” replaced by this and a MacMini or iMac. A better computing model for me.
 
Can I get 5 reasons why Apple cant put in stupid mouse functionality?
Reason #1: iPad Pro gen 4
Reason #2: iPad Pro gen 5
Reason #3: iPad Pro gen 6
Reason #4: iPad Pro gen 7
Reason #5: iPad Pro gen 8

With every generation of the iPad Pro, is a wave of people who (having currently perfectly fine iPad Pros) will get rid of what they have to buy the latest generation. As long as Apple keeps selling iPad Pros without mouse support, they don't need to add it.

They're keeping mouse support in their back pocket for a time when they are low on ideas to add to the next generation of iPad Pro that make it an irresistible purchase.

Adding mouse support is not a hardware issue, the 1st gen iPad had mouse support available for jailbroken iPads. But Apple will design that support in a way that will require the latest gen iPad Pro.
 
iPad will never be any creative professional’s computer until there’s a font manager that isn’t essentially a hack. (among other things)
 
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Love the add, Apple is provoking and polarising. Ipad is a new era computer, more secure, more mobile, better optimised and easier to use than traditional PCs. However by releasing new MacBook Air along with iPad Pro Apple made it clear - we are giving you a choice, we will care and develop both computing platforms, both systems cause people have different needs.
 
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