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Releasing a piece of hardware that will not be able to navigate and view most of the web sites being developed today is simply unconscionable.

No one is making you buy an iPad. If you don't like it, move on to something else. HTML5 is the future and those who rely on flash will figure it out sooner or later.
 
Those guys over at Adobe had a chance to lead the evolution of a new standard in web creation.

Though instead, they want to just be lazy, well now they'll learn the hard way and maybe they'll let go and wake up from that OLD technology they call Flash.

If there not careful they'll be playing catch-up in a flash
 
HTML5 Video Not Working

Per Apple's Instructions I changed Safari’s user agent to:

Code:
Mozilla/5.0 (iPad; U; CPU OS 3_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.21.10 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.4 Mobile/7B334b Safari/531.21.10

and yet all of the sites (CNN, New York Times, etc.) still load their video using flash.

Am I missing something?
 
Same problem here. I even uninstalled Flash, but now I just get the plugin not found error message.
 
The only thing that is good about flash is the fact that 'everyone' uses it. Now people have started to adopt HTML5 adobe is in trouble. It's a bit like USB, Firewire is better but there is hardly any support for it.
 
No, I am not fond of Quicktime at all. Runs terribly on both my Windows and my Mac side. Very slow, and refreshes are frequent. Flash may have its problems, but at least its consistently functional.
 
I just hoping that the UI of Safari 5.0 will be similar to the UI of safari on the iPad. (I also hope for full screen browsing in safario)
 
iPad + iPhone HTML5

Are these updated sites accessible for the iPhone?

I hope so. The iPhone has the same browser, so it should.

I am a web developer, so this is good news. I have not used any HTML5 elements, but now I have a reason to.

P.S. - Happy April Fools Day! I LOVE WINDOWS!!! :D:D:D:apple::D:D:D
 
I am wondering when Jobs will cave on flash.

He's holding his customer's hostage by not allowing his equipment to interact with what seems to be fairly standard programing now.

I for one think this is the biggest customer service insult going right now.

Sure folks step right up, buy your Ipad, surf the web, and see how many sites will not be compatible with your new toy!
What do you really know? Huh! Flash IS a resource hog. At my job we have a fairly powerful windows pc and it runs like a snail on the Nike site. Tons of flash! I have to leave that site all the time cause I get frustrated at how slow it runs there. Besides, nobody really cares about that flash stuff when they are on the net looking or info. You little children are making an Everest of of a mole hill.
 
kill flash on desktop safari

If Apple have real balls they must kill flash in safari desktop as well......just like poker..ALL IN!!
 
Similarly, soon no one will care about Flash. It might take years

Ummm. Right. So the iPad won't be able to access RIA content for YEARS. [edit: whoops! I almost forgot. Apple wants you to PAY for this content via apps]

Go ask Google about why they're including Flash in Chrome. Or why every other friggin' mobile phone & tablet maker in the world is partnering up with Adobe to get 10.1 on their devices. HTML5 is fine for basic flash-type stuff, but there's more to the web than cnn and videos of cat's playing the piano!

Jobs is wrong. (so are you)
 
Anyone, I am also curious as to why this didn't work?

Thanks for trying JamSoft. :cool:

Per Apple's Instructions I changed Safari’s user agent to:

Code:
Mozilla/5.0 (iPad; U; CPU OS 3_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.21.10 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.4 Mobile/7B334b Safari/531.21.10

and yet all of the sites (CNN, New York Times, etc.) still load their video using flash.

Am I missing something?
 
While I like to idea of Flash going away for video, I think online games is a bigger issue that needs to be solved.

And how many Flash games, which are often designed for mouse input and rely on actions like mouse hover to work, would work anyway even if the iPad did have Flash?

The smart developers will be developing native iPad games anyway, so no loss there.
 
Ummm. Right. So the iPad won't be able to access RIA content for YEARS.

Go ask Google about why they're including Flash in Chrome. Or why every other friggin' mobile phone & tablet maker in the world is partnering up with Adobe to get 10.1 on their devices.

Jobs is wrong. (so are you)

It'll take a lot less time with a big-gunner like Apple abandoning all support. They have a stranglehold on a large proportion of the smartphone market; they are soon to have almost a monopoly on the tablet market. By using this leverage they're effectively forcing (rightly or wrongly) the big sites on the Internet to abandon Flash. This will quickly trickle down to the smaller sites. I'd say Flash will be a non-entity in the online video world by this time next year.

Plus, just take into consideration that almost everyone hates Flash. There is motivation to get rid of it. It's not like the move from DVD to BluRay where there is a huge amount of reluctance due to the only marginal increase in quality; we are talking about a hated piece of software from a hated company here. Adobe really are the dregs.
 
Jobs is wrong. (so are you)

I'll gladly stand with Steve Jobs on this one. Time will tell where the trend lies, but I'm comfortable with where I stand.

I never once missed Flash on my iPod touch. I similarly don't expect to see any problems with the iPad. This is a non-issue for most people. I know before the iPhone came out people ranted and raved about how the "whole Web" wasn't available to the iPhone. Made no difference to the marketplace. Neither will this.
 
Plus, just take into consideration that almost everyone hates Flash.

Isn't it amazing how some tech attracts wrath? I've noticed the same thing that almost everyone despises Flash. Sometimes I think the only people on earth who like Flash are Flash developers (obviously), Adobe (obviously), and MacRumors posters (totally mystifies me why).
 
Indiana Jobs and the lost crusade

Besides, nobody really cares about that flash stuff when they are on the net looking or info. You little children are making an Everest of of a mole hill.

Or that childish Jobs is doing that with his pathetic and unprofessional crusade against a technology that he personally hates. Give the people easy, stylish options, so they can be creative... er, wait! Apple doesn't want that, they have different ideas of fun. Here they present... iWork!!! "I feel like I've been there."

Have fun - just the way Apple wants it. THE ONLY WAY.

4-5 years from now Flash will just be a bad memory while HTML5 and other standards replace it.

Hopefully, your iPad will last for five years, when you can start enjoying the internet as it is (or will be).
 
Reality check

As much as I'd like to see everybody adopt HTML5 for video over Flash, I have no choice but to continue deploying FLVs for video on my employer's Web sites as long as :( the overwhelming majority of my employer's customers and prospects use Windows Internet Explorer -- and mostly older versions of it, to boot. At the rate they're having IE 6 and IE 7 pried out of their "cold, dead hands," that could easily be quite a few years.
 
I would just like to say that on my Windows computer, Quicktime is slow and bloated, and I avoid websites (like Apple.com) that don't use flash.

It's a 2-way street Apple, how about you stop being so arrogant.

So because Apple doesn't want us to view half the internet (no Flash), content providers are going to be falling all over themselves to give in to Apple and be on their special list??

Apple lock-in is beginning to affect the entire industry, never mind the user.

Gimme a break.
 
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