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Did you account for taxes ?
The UK price probably includes VAT, the US price probably does not include taxes.

Consumer law in NZ means all products being sold to consumers (vs businesses) must include GST (NZ version of VAT). When I was in the USA 6 weeks ago the prices shown excluded sale taxes, so the advertised price and the ticketed price were never what we actually paid for goods we bought while we were there.

Not including GST is considered a deceptive practice and is illegal.

Yes, his comparison included sales tax. Sales tax varies by municipality here so it would be virtually impossible to quote prices inclusive of tax. I think there are over 6000 different sales tax jurisdictions in the US. I prefer our method because we can "comparison shop" different locales. The tax is in our face, so governments can't "hide" it as easily as they can in places where there is a VAT and prices are quoted inclusive.
 
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Thats why AppleCare exists. While Apple does have the smallest number of issues with their products versus other PC manufacturers, it does not mean they are all going to last forever. It is still built with consumer electronics that are manufactured by other companies. You take a chance when you do or do not buy AppleCare.

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Consumer Laws Lacking

Apple is being fined in Italy because their standard one year warranty is not compliant with Italian Consumer Law. Which demands that all large appliance and electronic purchases come with at least a TWO YEAR WARRANTY!
This American idea of having to pay for an extra warranty has always been an Apple SCAM for years. I've had several Macs suffer from design and engineering flaws, luckily most before the first year's warranty ending.
Apple Needs to be sued several times on this issue till they Wake The PH*K UP and make 3 year warranties standard. They charge a premium for their equipment. It's time they stopped ripping off their consumer base and give us all the warranties we've already PAID FOR!
 
To everyone who's complaining about out-of-warranty issues — TOUGH LUCK! Next time buy an Apple Protection Plan! For an item as expensive as an iMac, the APP is a bargain; WORTH IT'S WEIGHT IN GOLD. Apple has the best support I've ever experienced, and I've been using their products for over 20 years. They will spend AS MUCH TIME AS NECESSARY to resolve your issue and the APP bumps your warranty up to 3 Years. They have thee best technicians in the industry and they couldn't be friendlier or more patient. :apple:

Apple lawyers must love you... :rolleyes:
 
It's a good suit for the consumer in general in many industries. All this one-year warranty, planned obselescence ******** has got to stop - it's a wasteful, short-sighted and disgusting treatment of customers.
 
5 Million $ for what? This is ridiculous.
Why not just take his Screen back and give back his money?

5mil is for the class action, meaning that apple has to set aside this much money to repay the affected customers, not to give it all to this single person, dude.
 
Can someone tell me why class action lawsuits are even allowed, other than to give whiners a "voice"?

The original theory was that it is easier to have a single lawsuit cover every affected party, rather than have literally thousands of virtually identical cases clogging the courts. Unfortunately, it's devolved to the point where it serves primarily attorneys who are successful in filing first in the most plaintiff friendly jurisdictions and getting named the lead.

I'm still not entirely sure how someone in Idaho can launch a class action suit in federal court based solely on a California law. But apparently he can.
 
Based on the comments online, it appears that the LG screens had defects in them, which may have caused them to go bad earlier than expected. I would imagine that this is the basis of the lawsuit.

Now, if Apple were smart, they would have offered to replace his screen long before this ever went to court. If nothing else they would save a ton of legal fees and generate some goodwill by saying, yes, this out of warranty, but since it's only 6 months, we are going to replace it anyway.

That being said, I think all computers should have to come with a 3 year warranty.
 
This.

The frivolous lawsuits in this country are ridiculous.

Basic comprehension of a class-action lawsuit is basic. And you fail...

Wow, this thread has exposed the extreme # of idiots on this thread who:

a) can't understand what a class action lawsuit is despite it being explained about 5 times.
b) are either such fan-boys or anti-lawyer mouth-foamers that any lawsuit is frivolous.
 
Every time this comes up, it's funny how little Europeans apparently know about their own laws... :)

They claim the law provides two years of warranty and Apple *has* to fix it.

*sigh*

First of all, the law says that you get 24 months of coverage from the *retailer* not the *manufacturer*. So unless you bought your device from an Apple Store, Apple does not have to fix it. You have to go to the retailer.

(This applies to the UK law, too, but you get 6 years.)

Then, if your device breaks during the first 6 months, you're golden. The law assumes it's not your fault, and the retailer would have to prove it is. The retailer must fix your devices.

(This applies to the UK law, too.)

However, after 6 months, *you* have to prove the problem was there when you received the goods. That's virtually impossible (or prohibitively expensive) for electronics, unless it's a known and common problem (not too different from the situation for a class action). So, basically that's worth nothing.

(This applies to the UK law, too.)

So there you go. Things aren't magically better in Europe. People sometimes have success in getting a free repair by misquoting the law and/or being lucky and/or being pushy. Good for them. But don't complain about companies violating your rights if you only have a passing knowledge of them.
 
I like Apple, but I get sick to death of these technicality warranty's they hide behind
I own
iPod
iPhone 4s
iPhone 5
iPad Mini
All manufacturers do it.
If he had bought a dirt cheap pc, not much argument.
But it pisses me off that you pay $2300 for a "Premium" computer and 18mths into its life it craps out, tough **** customer, you're outside your warranty....giggles.....

If Apple says we're not being bombarded with complaints, then hey, whats the big deal if you honor your product and make it right.
Its your name. Make it right. Apple says we sell quality.
I mean, we all know buying a new car comes with a 3yr/36k powertrain warranty....but if my engine decides to sling a rod at 38k miles.....FIX IT
You sold me a 25k car and I'm not supposed to get more than 38k miles out of it......you know I should, don't hide behind the warranty details.
I was a Honda Tech at a dealer and one time.... in yrs there along with my complaining was I able to get customer relief on said issue....except it was a trans.
Took me and the service manager drilling Honda to get a new Trans.
Lady was crying, it was terrible. Imagine your only means of transportation, not THAT kind of surplus income for a $4500 repair.....while you're paying $375/mth on a new car.....that you bought to avoid costly repairs that suddenly arrive.
I know this isn't quite the same, but i hate when these company's are just swimming in cash and people like this get hung out to dry.
Remember, we're supposed to get years of useful use out of these "Top of the line" products right?
Make it right.
Im sooooo sick of seeing Apple boasting how they scored these huge profit margins off selling us Top Notch products each quarter and they cant even do the right thing.
Apple....you know that iMac should last way longer than that....MAKE IT RIGHT...SHAME ON YOU!!!!
Im in this guys same boat.
Years of having bought 4-500$ pcs, I want an Apple computer so bad.
Im typing on a 3mth old Lenovo I paid $650 for, it blue screens twice a week.
Several times the touch screen starts flickering and I have to force power off to stop.
I hate this junk.
Im working on getting MBP next.

I like them, but Im gonna research the piss out of Mac Book Pro before I jump.
Id be LIVID if I finally mustered the coin for a $2300 laptop and in 18th month something like happened.

And its very apparent with that kind of investment, Apple care will be purchased.
Even though the damn thing should come with an unconditional 3yr replacement warranty at that cost.
So long as it wasn't killed by spilled tea or dropped etc.

Rant over.....saw the lawsuit on Front Page and my blood boiled.
I hope they loose case and all these customers get whats right
 
I'm so glad the consumer laws in Australia are much better, here even if it's outside the 12 month warranty (and no Apple Care) if something like a screen fails after 18 month Apple will be more incline to just replace the iMac or screen as it falls under 'fair usage' laws where something like a computer screen is expected to last longer than 18 months. It sure beats a costly law suit and lawyers.

Apart from that it's why I chose Apple care so there is no questions, it's covered for 3 years.
 
The original theory was that it is easier to have a single lawsuit cover every affected party, rather than have literally thousands of virtually identical cases clogging the courts. Unfortunately, it's devolved to the point where it serves primarily attorneys who are successful in filing first in the most plaintiff friendly jurisdictions and getting named the lead.

I'm still not entirely sure how someone in Idaho can launch a class action suit in federal court based solely on a California law. But apparently he can.

This is also true, and I think the lawyer just needs to be able to practice law in CA, and possibly find some CA residents to sign up.
 
lol, I'm joking and exaggerating. I live in the UK, and when my MBP failed in every possible way, they didn't help. The thing is, they can be nice and help, but they can be jerks and just say "well too bad. you have to pay". You're at their mercy. The point is that when you buy a Mac, there's no guarantee that you'll still have a Mac in a year's time. You "hope" that you will, you hope Apple will be nice if it fails, you hope it won't fail, etc… And most of the time it will be okay. But if something goes wrong, the customer is potentially screwed, like I was!

In NZ its easier, your FIRST legal remedy under the consumers guarantees act is to make a claim in writing to where you bought it from. The Retailer, not the manufacturer is the first liable, and after that you can go the importer, then the manufacturer.
You also get to "sue" if need be in the small claims court which means no lawyers.
 
I honestly have to wonder who these people are. Every time I've gone into an Apple store to have something fixed, inside warranty or not, I've been completely taken care of at no charge.

I've also seen angry customers getting no financial help whatsoever while I wait patiently nearby. These angry customers make angry faces, ask dumb questions, generally make nuisances of themselves, and DEMAND all sorts of free stuff.

This is the exact opposite of my experience, but I've seen these people live through it. They're honestly their own worst enemies; I wouldn't be surprised if Apple has a policy regarding customer demeanor and level of service. People who act this way shouldn't be rewarded.
 
Yup.

We have the Sale Of Goods Act in the UK, which ensures consumer products must be fit for purpose, and last a reasonable length of time, which is usually around 5 years for small and medium electricals, including computers.

Very surprised that the US does not have similar legislation.

Not a response to the specifics of the case, but to your comment in general...

A warranty is a cost to the company. Any warranty period increases the price of the product. For example, think of a one year warranty. In order to cover the costs of the warranty, Apple has to compute the probability of failure within the first year. Then, multiply that by the average cost of replacement/repair and add that to the cost of a consumer good.

For a five year warranty period, that probability grows substantially. Hence, the cost of a product covered by a five year warranty will be higher than a product covered by a one year warranty. It's why extended warranty products like AppleCare cost money.

Alternatively, a company might use higher quality products/better quality control to reduce the probability of failure during the five year period. But doing so increases the price of the good as well. There is no free lunch.

Hence, this kind of legislation has one impact: increasing the price of consumer goods. Moreover, it removes the ability for paying customers to choose a cheaper product that might fail after a year over a more expensive one that might fail after five. What is reasonable should be dictated by the consumer not by some government legislation.
 
This is also true, and I think the lawyer just needs to be able to practice law in CA, and possibly find some CA residents to sign up.

Well, it's in federal court, so the attorneys probably just have to be admitted to the federal bar. However, if they are arguing California law, rather than federal law, they'll need to be knowledgeable in it.
 
A computer less than 2 years old dying is frustrating for sure... Just make a big fuss at your local Apple store and you'll get free stuff even out of warranty. All these lawsuits are just disproportionate. Nobody sues Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc for early failures. (Well except for that exploding Dell battery).

Just because you paid $1000+ for a computer doesn't mean you can hold the manufacturer for long-term use. I paid $10,000+ for a car but I will not be asking that manufacturer to keep my car running for free past its warranty.

Besides, the guy was offered a out-of-warranty repair, which in itself is above and beyond the tech industry. Ever called Dell for out-of-warranty repair? Even if you want to pay them money they just laugh at your face.

Everyone just wants a buck from Apple's riches.

Over the years I have gotten several checks from Apple as a fallout from these class action suits even though I never had an issue with ANY of my products. Too bad I don't own an iMac, or I could have received free money again.

Yes but a car's warranty is between 3 and 7 years, depending on the component!
 
Are you kidding? It is a class action, the most he gets is a new iMac plus the cost of the lawsuit.

It depends. A lot of frivolous class actions arise because an unscrupulous attorney (who gets a percentage of the entire settlement) promises consideration to "professional plaintiffs" who happen to fall within the class.

For all we know, an attorney who knew about higher propensity for LG panels to fail simply found someone in Idaho who was willing to play along.
 
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