Apple Hit With Class Action Lawsuit Over 'Jelly Scrolling' on iPad Mini

[sideshowuniqueuser]

Is no one else weirded out by the fact that both Apple and iFixit are claiming that jelly scrolling is normal for LCD screens?! Since when in hell is that normal? I have several LCD screens, and have never seen or even heard of jelly scrolling until this iPad came out.

*I thought it also said Ars Technica claimed that too, but the way it reads is that they were merely reporting Apple's claim.

 

[Realityck]

Is no one else weirded out by the fact that both Apple and iFixit are claiming that jelly scrolling is normal for LCD screens?! Since when in hell is that normal? I have several LCD screens, and have never seen or even heard of jelly scrolling until this iPad came out.

*I thought it also said Ars Technica claimed that too, but the way it reads is that they were merely reporting Apple's claim.

Did you look at the post concerning the late 2019 Samsung Galaxy Fold I posted? The text from the editor below video is expressing the same explanation 2 years earlier in Sept 2019 on why jelly motion shows up in portrait vs landscape. iFixIt comments could be considered copies of the same explanation .

 

[iDave]

Wow, I just got my mini 6 and have to say this is a non-issue. I see the "jelly effect" only if I scroll up and down trying to make myself dizzy. In normal use, slowly scrolling a page like this one as I read it, there's no problem.

The effect is the same on my older iPads, but in horizontal orientation instead of portrait. Hardly noticeable.

 

[ValueArb]

Cases get lost all the time because one side is not as well financed as the other.

What you are suggesting would prevent many David vs. Goliath cases from happening.

The winning side can always make a motion for the opposing side to pay all court costs, including the winning sides court costs and attorneys fees.

Cases get decided on merits, not pocketbooks. If you don’t have a good case, then you shouldn’t be suing, it’s a form of legalized harassment.


And under our current system you have to request to get your fees paid from another lawyer, the judge, who is heavily biased to not grant them. It almost never happens because lawyers know it would directly reduce their incomes.

 

[PC_tech]

So, rather than return it, they raise a class action lawsuit. THIS is a prime example of why this should be outlawed. Apple should counter sue for harassment.

That rich, Apple sue for……harassment …..

 

[PC_tech]

No matter how I cupped or handled my iPhone 4 I couldn't ever get the signal strength to decrease. And never had any issues with connection quality.

Remember Bendgate? Less than 12 people had actually reported bending to Apple. These things always appear larger than they are. Scientific studies have shown that spots online, such as this forum, make these issues appear larger than they actually are. You can have a thread pages long, but we humans are horrid at recognizing that it's the same couple people replying again and again. And we're also bad at remembering that even if you have a couple thousand people with an issue, that's still a very small amount when there are millions of people with the device that don't have a problem.

That's not to say that there aren't issues that need to be resolved. But even if 50,000 people had an issue (which is rarely the case) with an iPhone, that's still only 0.5% of the 10 million that own that model at the time.

I know Apple may have told you that less than 12 people reported bending but come on, ******** ?

 

[PC_tech]

I hate to tell you this but the lawyers usually get 60-80% of the total. 1/3 is great

Hate to tell you this but it’s typically a 1/3

 

[gco212]

I don’t understand why people don’t take advantage of the return policy. It’s there for a reason.

Not happy with it… return it. Simple as that.

Just deal with the 25% restocking fee from Apple.

 

[darcyf]

Why didn’t he take advantage of the return policy? He had 30 days to decide ?

Not sure what’s going to happen to this lawsuit. But I had a feeling this was coming. Apple might as well send him a new iPad mini without the jelly scrolling or he can just purchase the iPad Pro models? That’s a good alternative too.

There are new iPad minis without jelly scrolling?

 

[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

Just deal with the 25% restocking fee from Apple.

There’s no restocking fee from Apple in the U.S.

 

[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

There are new iPad minis without jelly scrolling?

The original iPad mini didn't

Apple Introduces iPad mini

www.apple.com

 

[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

In another news iPad mini is also on sale

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[Lexdexia]

Apple, iFixIt, and others say it is

Doesn’t matter what anyone else’s definition of ‘normal’ is. At the end of the day the only thing matters is what the buyer defines as normal. And if the buyer deems it to be defective then he’s within his consumer rights to return until satisfied (within the return window ofc) or gives up the effort of trying to get an acceptable quality product.

Apple products are not cheap, with a hefty price tag people should expect a damn near-flawless product that they can enjoy. The bottom line is Apple’s physical store locations make it a lot easier to return/exchange until you’re satisfied. Good luck trying to do anything similar with competing brands.

 

[lbmdk1]

Some people are always out for free money

 

[Realityck]

Apple products are not cheap, with a hefty price tag people should expect a damn near-flawless product that they can enjoy. The bottom line is Apple’s physical store locations make it a lot easier to return/exchange until you’re satisfied. Good luck trying to do anything similar with competing brands.

iPad mini is still the second cheapest of the entire iPad line in the states.

Ipad starts at $329
iPad mini starts at $499
iPad Air which is almost up to be replaced is $599
iPad Pro 11" starts at $799
iPad Pro 12.9" starts at $1099

In comparison the cheapest MBA is $999
M1 Mini is the cheapest Mac at $699

So Apple iPad mini is reasonably priced considering its feature set. It was $399 with a very old design until it got redesigned.

The update entails

• A15 Bionic compared to A12 Bionic
• 4 GB Ram vs 3GB RAM
• 8.3" compared 7.9" screen (video content in 16:9 is noticeably larger)
• Rear 12MP Wide camera compared to a 8MP
• Front 12MP wide camera compared to a 7MB
• USB-C compared to lightning
• 5G Cellular option compared to 4G LTE
• 2nd Gen Pencil support compare to 1st gen
• Speakers widely spaced in landscape rather then close together near USB port.
• WiFI6 (AX) instead of only 802.11AC

So what if it costs a $100 more at $499. If this had been a older iPhone people would have been jumping for joy. But apple modified the iPad mini 6 to be used more in Landscape than portrait with a bigger display for videos and actual audio separation. Cameras were both really improved and is actually somewhat decent instead of poor like the iPad mini 5. So as widely commented the display shows a little bit of jelly motion with some types of HTLM layouts, but not all. I don't think given the base price that you can say its got a hefty price at all.

And as I pointed out its certainly not the first product to go the landscape route as compared to the earlier Samsung Galaxy Fold phone that had jelly roll.

 

[Alp3r]

I returned mine back because of jelly scroll, I’ll get one once they pay some respect to the mini lineup!

 

[H2SO4]

I don’t understand why people don’t take advantage of the return policy. It’s there for a reason.

Not happy with it… return it. Simple as that.

A lot of people have faith in a timely fix and hold out for such.
After you’ve set up your device and can’t be bothered repeat that a few months later when a fix is out it makes a little more sense.
Or maybe they have scratched it in that return window and don’t want to risk being gouged by T’s & C’s.
Have a look here:https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/browse/open/salespolicies
Maybe there are a few things that might answer your question.

Sheesh. Why is it always the consumers responsibility to get this right?

 

[Pezimak]

14 days, not 3 months

Still more then enough time. 2 weeks is sufficient to see if you like the screen or not.
But nope they have to try and sue for no real reason. Hope the case is thrown out of court.

 

[RandomTox]

lol yeah these suits are really just to mar the company name in mud.

How about a decent product quality from Apple instead? Unfortunately, that's the only language big companies understand these days. Glad I did not buy mini.

 

[Jensend]

1. The Mini is performing exactly how it was designed to perform. It is not a manufacturing defect.
2. This screen characteristic manifests itself immediately. This isn’t an issue with something that degrades with use.
3. This is a characteristic that is the same on every iPad mini of this generation. It isn’t some kind of lottery where you may get a product that works differently than store samples or review samples.
4. There are many undesirable characteristics of screens that often aren’t listed in specification sheets. Viewing angle brightness and color shift, Pulse Width Modulation, minimum brightness level, pixel response time, backlight zones, etc. This isn’t a characteristic that is especially bad compared to other unspecified characteristics. Not to mention actual defects (or loose tolerances) like bright spots, uneven backlighting, dead pixels, and pixel walk.

It may be a poor design decision, but I don’t see how it would qualify as a defect.

 

[GuruZac]

I didn't return mine because I traded in my 5th gen to reduce the cost. I guess I could have and bought another 5th Gen but really, its a great device outside of scrolling quickly in the vertical orientation. Once you get where you want, its easy to look at and its great for video and other things.

Yeah I think you did the right thing, at least the honest thing. You acknowledged it has an annoying shortcoming but there are other pros vs the cons for you that make it worthwhile enough to keep. It’s hard to believe someone justified in their mind why the iPad Mini scrolling is a litigation-worthy matter.

 

[bookcase]

I've been using my Mini since October and I don't notice it at all. It's the best iPad I've ever owned.

 

[cosmichobo]

How self entitled do you have to feel to take up legal action against a company because a product they made doesn't meet your standards?

Yeah, I was pissed at Apple when I purchased a nearly $2,000 computer and after 18 months it was a great big anchor unless I paid another $900 in repairs. (eMac) And yeah, I fought to get justice, especially after learning that Apple (likely) knew of the problem. But a class action for an iPad?

 

[spokenblurb]

The mini 6 is a disappointment

How? It literally has everything except pro motion

 

[svish]

Lawsuit seems unnecessary. Don’ think this will stand in court.