I couldn't believe that comment when I read it. Ignorance. I agree, Industrial Design is an extremely difficult field, involving engineering with regards to computer design. Stanford has an excellent program, with an extremely difficult approval process. Dismissing Ive as nothing is ludicrous. Jobs may have the ideas, but it has always been Ive who has brought his concepts to life. Ive has won more awards in industrial design than Jobs has with his position as a CEO. From the eMac to the iPhone to the GENIUS interiors of the "Mac Pro" systems (have you ever opened up a "Mac Pro"? Unlike a Windows based system, everything is easily accessible with every detail well thought out). Jobs and Ive have been a fantastic duo that have brought Apple from a near bankrupt company in the '90's to a business powerhouse. You can't argue that fact.
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Apple Holding iPhone 4 Press Conference on Friday
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I couldn't believe that comment when I read it. Ignorance. I agree, Industrial Design is an extremely difficult field, involving engineering with regards to computer design. Stanford has an excellent program, with an extremely difficult approval process. Dismissing Ive as nothing is ludicrous. Jobs may have the ideas, but it has always been Ive who has brought his concepts to life. Ive has won more awards in industrial design than Jobs has with his position as a CEO. From the eMac to the iPhone to the GENIUS interiors of the "Mac Pro" systems (have you ever opened up a "Mac Pro"? Unlike a Windows based system, everything is easily accessible with every detail well thought out). Jobs and Ive have been a fantastic duo that have brought Apple from a near bankrupt company in the '90's to a business powerhouse. You can't argue that fact.
I'm very intrigued as to what this is.
Here's my thoughts on what's been discussed:
1. Jobs stepping down would be absurd over a blunder like this. It's a serious problem, but not quite firing your breadmaker serious.
2. Ive stepping down would be a more reasonable solution, I believe. He seems tapped out. Aside from the unibody MacBook Pros his designs have been exactly the same since 2005/2006. The iPhone/Touch has mutated slightly, the iPad is just an enlarged version of the iPhone/Touch in more ways than one, the iPod has changed shape a few times, the Mac Pro hasn't changed at all and the iMac has gone from white plastic to aluminum. This isn't to say his designs are bad, but they could use some new ones. Ive leaving wouldn't appease the problem though.
3. As for appeasing the problem, a recall is too hefty. They should announce the release of the software update for that very same day as the conference. Even holding it back this long has been ridiculous, and I don't even have an iPhone 4. Apple should announce that they will continue to monitor user feedback, and if the software update doesn't prove successful, they will work with the affected customers and replace their phones.
4. What I would love to happen, but probably won't, is the announcement that the iPhone will soon be available for other service providers.
Here's my thoughts on what's been discussed:
1. Jobs stepping down would be absurd over a blunder like this. It's a serious problem, but not quite firing your breadmaker serious.
2. Ive stepping down would be a more reasonable solution, I believe. He seems tapped out. Aside from the unibody MacBook Pros his designs have been exactly the same since 2005/2006. The iPhone/Touch has mutated slightly, the iPad is just an enlarged version of the iPhone/Touch in more ways than one, the iPod has changed shape a few times, the Mac Pro hasn't changed at all and the iMac has gone from white plastic to aluminum. This isn't to say his designs are bad, but they could use some new ones. Ive leaving wouldn't appease the problem though.
3. As for appeasing the problem, a recall is too hefty. They should announce the release of the software update for that very same day as the conference. Even holding it back this long has been ridiculous, and I don't even have an iPhone 4. Apple should announce that they will continue to monitor user feedback, and if the software update doesn't prove successful, they will work with the affected customers and replace their phones.
4. What I would love to happen, but probably won't, is the announcement that the iPhone will soon be available for other service providers.
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There better be some mention about this.
vwcruisn said:
There better be some mention about this.
how hard would it be to just replace the antennae at a Genius Bar (or by mail for those who don't live close to an 
store)? seems like it would be a pretty painless way of fixing the problem, assuming that this only affects a small percentage of iphone customers.
store)? seems like it would be a pretty painless way of fixing the problem, assuming that this only affects a small percentage of iphone customers.I'm just really hoping they deal with the proximity sensor issue as well. The antenna has gotten a lot of press, but the sensor is also an issue that I'm worried is not fixable. Did they move the sensor to put in the camera? It's made my iPhone barely functional as a phone. If they don't deal with it, I'll be forced to return.
vote +1 for this
but, of course, nothing will cure or satisfy the haters and hypochondriacs
LoopInsight, Engadget and others are reporting that Apple will be holding a press conference this Friday.The topic of discussion, of course, is the iPhone 4 which has received much press over the past few weeks regarding a signal loss issue when it is held in certain ways. A Consumer Reports article reignited discussion of this issue earlier this week.
Article Link: Apple Holding iPhone 4 Press Conference on Friday
hahahah they will announce that they will recall all the iphone 4 sold so far
I thought I read somewhere that the FCC requires the cell phone antenna to be on the bottom to keep the radiation source as far from the head as possible.
Did you use the word chucklehead?
People need to put parental controls on their computers. Bedtime Popeye!
YES!!!
In fact I don't think I am experiencing antenna issues at all. I can't imagine a few dropped calls being more annoying than this proximity sensor problem. My ear does anything from putting the person on hold, mute, speaker, even merging the call with other people in my contact list that I don't want to talk to!
This is now one of the major top level news stories over at the much-visited Drudge Report.
It's getting out of hand... Apple better get some control of this!
Wall Street Journal reporting that a full recall is unlikely.
It's getting out of hand... Apple better get some control of this!
Wall Street Journal reporting that a full recall is unlikely.
Sadly, this wasn't funny the first time you posted it.
I was pulling for you the second round...but no.
To all the people stating they don't have the problem or the problem only effects a small group of users ...
Has anyone noticed the Apple discussion boards? It is sure interesting to see the following stats for a phone that has just been out for about 21 days.
http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=201
Discussion Board Stats:
iPhone4: 967,944 Views, 3,850 Topics, 38,587 Messages
iPhone3GS: 914,755 Views, 14,806 Topics, 88,783 Messages
iPhone3G: 447,613 Views, 23,952 Topics, 143,968 Messages
iPhone: 119,706 Views, 5,456 Topics, 25,961 Messages
Unbelievable that a phone only out for about 21 days has more views than a phone out for a year, or a phone out for 2 years or even a phone out for 3 years. Also notice that with just 3,850 Topics the iPhone4 Board has almost half of the Messages that the 3GS Board has while the iPhone 3GS Board has almost 5X the Topics.
If Apple issues a voluntary recall, I wonder how many people saying the antenna issue does not affect me will exchange their iPhone4?
I hope Apple does the right thing this friday.
Has anyone noticed the Apple discussion boards? It is sure interesting to see the following stats for a phone that has just been out for about 21 days.
http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=201
Discussion Board Stats:
iPhone4: 967,944 Views, 3,850 Topics, 38,587 Messages
iPhone3GS: 914,755 Views, 14,806 Topics, 88,783 Messages
iPhone3G: 447,613 Views, 23,952 Topics, 143,968 Messages
iPhone: 119,706 Views, 5,456 Topics, 25,961 Messages
Unbelievable that a phone only out for about 21 days has more views than a phone out for a year, or a phone out for 2 years or even a phone out for 3 years. Also notice that with just 3,850 Topics the iPhone4 Board has almost half of the Messages that the 3GS Board has while the iPhone 3GS Board has almost 5X the Topics.
If Apple issues a voluntary recall, I wonder how many people saying the antenna issue does not affect me will exchange their iPhone4?
I hope Apple does the right thing this friday.
On the subject of Jonny Ive, he's the only one that can get Jobs to order Apple to make an aesthetic decision instead of an engineering one, remember that a Professor in Sweden predicted this problem two weeks before the phone came out, Apple's engineers were dead set against this design but Jobs took Ive's design over the engineer's concerns...
Actually, my experience so far. Probably going for a third exchange.
First iPhone 4: 5 bar no internet issues
Second iPhone 4: prox sensor issue, occasional internet hiccup.
Both have death grip issues.
Didn't have those problems with original iPhone or 3Gs. Ever.
I call B.S. FCC rules state the cell antenna has to be furthest away from the users head, i.e. at the bottom of the phone.
Quit posting B.S.