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I don't want a 3GS-like looking new phone. Give me a new design!!!!

This is no surprise at all. From reading this report, I am now totally convinced that these "leaks" were in fact a covert marketing survey project for Apple to notice overall reaction to the new form factor.

A call will or was just made on which form factor to mass produce. Anyone taking bets? I'm sure all the hardware and software features are the same. The board design between the two are almost identical so it is just old boring three dimensional work instead of really challenging four to seven dimensional work that is electronics and software.

Reminds of a summer where the early "mako shark" Corvette prototype was driving around the country in the early 1970s. There were "new Corvette sightings" making automotive magazines for a while before Chevy rolled out that generation Corvette. I am sure Chevy learned a lot from those press pieces before deciding on the final design.
 
What if the different numbers (N89, N90 and N91) are to designate different radio chips for different carriers? ... (N89 = CDMA , N90 = WiMax , N91 = GSM)
 
You don't know much about corporate world do you? Because the CEO whims is exactly how many multi-billion corporations operate! And it couldn't be more true in case of Apple - many of their key business decisions (boycott of Flash, App Store rejection of Google Voice) are based on not much more than a petty whim of Jobs.

On the broader subject - if Apple recycles the same tired iPhone hardware design for the 4th iteration - they are done.

And you must be a Fortune 500 CEO with you knowledge of the corporate world. How else could you have such insight? :rolleyes:

No publicly held corporation bases it's operations on the whims of the CEO. None. Apple even less so. For one thing they have a sound business case for each of those items you listed. Some may not agree with it, but they have one. And another thing, Apple hummed right along while Steve was out on medical leave. If they operated based solely on his petty whims, wouldn't they have floundered in his absence?

I do agree that Apple will suffer if they don't offer up a major hardware revision of the iPhone at WWDC. Which is exactly why a "petty whim" of Steve Jobs will not prevent that.
 
Because of the leak, no new design this year.

Yup, because that makes SO MUCH SENSE. :rolleyes:

because product lines of multi-billion dollar companies are beholden to crappy little rumors sites. man, you ARE powerful!

(and by crappy rumors sites, i mean Giz, not the awesomeness that is macrumors. ) :D
 
It'd make more sense to label the re-designed iPhone as N91 and the back-up model as N90.


Unless the back-uo model was thought of AFTER the redesigned model was created. They probably thought "hmm, this is pretty different, better make something else easier in case this hits a snag in the supply chain." Higher number doesn't have to mean better, it's just chronological.
 
Gizmodo, you have cost Apple millions already in lost revenue while people wait for late June

alright, this is complete hyperbole.

the number of people that know / care about the prototype are NOT responsibly for MILLIONS of dollars in lost revenue. your numbers are complete nonsense.

the vast, vast, VAST majority of people who were buying iphones the last few months don't know or care anything about the prototype, or the new version, or anything like that. YOU do because you read RUMORS sites. see how that works?

my girlfriend's mom just bought her an iphone. they have no idea about a new version, much less the "prototype" stuff. they are very typical of the VAST MAJORITY of iphone buyers... ie. regular, stupid consumers. they wanted the phone, they bought the phone. there is no research happening.

so calm down on the "lost millions" ... it's just total nonsense.
 
What if Apple HAS production issues with the new IPhone design and this piece of information is a controlled leak to get everyone used to see the old design on June 7th ?

Overthink much? :) Vast majority of the current and perspective iPhone users don't read MR or follow these never ending leaks.
 
YOU do because you read RUMORS sites. see how that works?

The iPhone leaks were not just on some small RUMORS sites.

It was mainstream news, reported everywhere, and any intelligent person who
regularly follows the news, knows about the iPhone leaks.

Ignorant people living in a trailer somewhere with no internet access and people who never read a newspaper or watch the news on tv might not have known about it.
 
And you must be a Fortune 500 CEO with you knowledge of the corporate world. How else could you have such insight? :rolleyes:

No, but I have worked for a Fortune 100 company for many years.. and trust me - a lot of what we do is based on our CEO 'whim du jour'.. which then quickly percolates down the ranks, and gets executed. You would be surprised how hierarchical and top-down most major corporations are. And Apple especially, with a strong dictatorial CEO at the helm.

No publicly held corporation bases it's operations on the whims of the CEO. None. Apple even less so. For one thing they have a sound business case for each of those items you listed.

Hahahaha.. good one. Again, you seriously overestimate the decision making process in large corporations.
 
What if Apple HAS production issues with the new IPhone design and this piece of information is a controlled leak to get everyone used to see the old design on June 7th ?
Nah, DigiTimes pulled that backup design theory out of a body orifice. We'll give you three guesses, but you're only going to need one...

We've already seen a leaked DVT unit that was being field tested in the wild. That is the next generation iPhone.

The two most plausible explanations for this 3G-like device are: A.) low-cost respin of existing 3GS to become the new entry level iPhone, or B.) stripped down iPhone (minus a lot of features) for emerging markets -- basically an iPhone Lite (for lack of better name).

Steve has already reassured someone via e-mail saying that the WWDC will be "awesome."

You don't deliver "awesome" by releasing a handset that looks like last year's model.
 
I called this a while ago. This is Steve's revenge phone. Because of the leak, no new design this year.

Thank Gizmodo

I don't think a corporation accountable to it's shareholders can do something like that. If they try to pass off the next iphone with the same tired old design...then **** that noise, i'm not getting one!

Its just a rumour, but if it's true it's pretty pathetic of Apple, given how much focus they put on the ipad and iphone while neglecting other products. Apple will have to work a bit harder for my money than this.
 
This is no surprise at all. From reading this report, I am now totally convinced that these "leaks" were in fact a covert marketing survey project for Apple to notice overall reaction to the new form factor.

A call will or was just made on which form factor to mass produce. Anyone taking bets? I'm sure all the hardware and software features are the same. The board design between the two are almost identical so it is just old boring three dimensional work instead of really challenging four to seven dimensional work that is electronics and software.

Reminds of a summer where the early "mako shark" Corvette prototype was driving around the country in the early 1970s. There were "new Corvette sightings" making automotive magazines for a while before Chevy rolled out that generation Corvette. I am sure Chevy learned a lot from those press pieces before deciding on the final design.

How is it that people STILL think that Apple leaked these on purpose? For one, Apple doesn't even conduct focus groups on new products- isn't it clear by now that Apple alone dictates what it's products look like and do, not marketing or focus groups? I believe it's been documented pretty well in exlusive interviews and reports, not just rumors. Second, if Apple purposely leaked the Gizmodo iPhone, then they wouldn't have prompted a criminal investigation, as that would get them in some hot water legally.

Even autmobile manufacturers don't use the public feedback on sightings of it's development cars. If a car company has cars driving around in nearly finished bodywork, they aren't just testing how it looks, they're well into starting production and are fine tuning the underpinnings. Car shows are where car companies guage public opinion on new designs, with concept cars, not on late-development mules.

Seeing as though you're "totally convinced" that this is a marketing survey of some sort, I don't think that I'm going to convince you otherwise. There isn't some grand scheme here to test public opinion.

However, I do have several millions of dollars that I need to deposit into a bank account notlocated in my home state, to avoid some taxes. Perhaps I can convince you to message me your name, SS#, and bank account number so that I may deposit the money in your account for a short time. In return, I'll give you 25% of the balance!

:rolleyes:
 
I'm with you Crb. I like the old design. I'm really not sure what we're gaining by replacing the curved back with hard edges. If Apple had released them in the opposite order, would people now be saying how outdated the square edged one looks? I imagine so.

Case redesigns have everything to do with consumer expectation for change — any change. I think back to the history of the iPod mini/nano: curved profile, hard edges, and then back to curved again. Let's face it — there's only so much you can do with a rectangular pocket-sized slab!
 
This "same old tired design" rubbish is the biggest cop out I've read on here.

Two months ago the vast majority of iPhone owners loved the design of their product. One leak later, the current design is suddenly "tired"?

Please ...
 
Two months ago the vast majority of iPhone owners loved the design of their product. One leak later, the current design is suddenly "tired"?

Please ...

It's a psychological human reaction. The people who have the old design have to justify buying the new one to themselves, so all of a sudden the old design is no longer hip, it's now tired.

If the new design were switched with the old one, and people were currently upgrading from the "new" to the "old", people would probably say the same thing.
 
Needless to say I just sent an email to sjobs@apple.com. Releasing a 3GS-like phone would be a catastrophe and if he doesn't know that I'm not sure what kinds of drugs he's taking but I want some.
 
This is no surprise at all. From reading this report, I am now totally convinced that these "leaks" were in fact a covert marketing survey project for Apple to notice overall reaction to the new form factor.

A call will or was just made on which form factor to mass produce. Anyone taking bets? I'm sure all the hardware and software features are the same. The board design between the two are almost identical so it is just old boring three dimensional work instead of really challenging four to seven dimensional work that is electronics and software.

Reminds of a summer where the early "mako shark" Corvette prototype was driving around the country in the early 1970s. There were "new Corvette sightings" making automotive magazines for a while before Chevy rolled out that generation Corvette. I am sure Chevy learned a lot from those press pieces before deciding on the final design.
That is pretty much the exact opposite of how Apple does their product design.

They don't ask for opinions. They don't use focus groups. They don't mimic competitors' designs.

Apple does not design by committee, nor is it a popularity contest for who should be the homecoming queen.

No, Steve Jobs and Jonathan Ives had in mind what they want the new iPhone to look like and do. They don't care about opinions of a few fanboys. This is a mass market device designed for Joe Consumer.

You vote with your dollars, not by thumbing up or thumbing down some leaked photos on some Apple rumor site.
 
Needless to say I just sent an email to sjobs@apple.com. Releasing a 3GS-like phone would be a catastrophe and if he doesn't know that I'm not sure what kinds of drugs he's taking but I want some.

Make sure you put some curse words in your email, and make it sound like it was written by an ignoramus or an angry 12 year old kid. Those are the types of emails to Steve Jobs that seem to have the best success in getting replies lately.
 
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