Yes, profit is important, but if you don't have the market share, your product eventually gets marginalized. You can make 10x the profit of an Android phone and it won't matter if you only sell a few thousand units. Market share and keeping the product at the forefront of the consumer minds when they consider a smartphone is VERY important. Not being on Verizon has been fine for the first few generations, but it will eventually limit sales.
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Apple Increases 1st Quarter iPhone Shipments to 21 Million, Including the Verizon iPh
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Yes, profit is important, but if you don't have the market share, your product eventually gets marginalized. You can make 10x the profit of an Android phone and it won't matter if you only sell a few thousand units. Market share and keeping the product at the forefront of the consumer minds when they consider a smartphone is VERY important. Not being on Verizon has been fine for the first few generations, but it will eventually limit sales.
Nobody knows when it actually ended/ends. (Contracts have exit clauses) Nothing more than speculation based on dated information.
Exactly, I mentioned this exact thing earlier, but it seems that some people don't read threads before answering.
This topic will never die.
After the fanboys get their Verizon iPhones they will be hit with the slap of reality. Then we'll really hear them squeal.
Verizon is just another carrier, they are not the perfect company that fanboys portray them to be. I know from first hand experience. I've used each of the big four carriers and they are very similar.
So perhaps there is little difference in your area, this doesn't mean that there is not a major difference for others. Each experience is unique. You can't predict the improvement or lack thereof that others will experience.
How many times has the Wall Street Journal reported the Iphone was coming to Verizon and has been wrong?
Come on where there is smoke there is fire. If At&T wasn't close to losing exclusivity they would have let the public know instead of changing their notes to financial statements expressing an opinion that losing exclusivity wasn't going to effect them that much. Contracts are changed all the time. If you don't think Apple used At&T's documented performance failures as leverage you are kidding yourself. Besides that original 2012 date I am willing to bet Apple had some kind of clause saying you At7T guys can't have what is the worst performing network according to consumers. (not saying that is the exact contract language but you get my point).
I don't know if it will be next week or as late as March, but I am willing to bet it is next quarter.
The Verizon sales may be expected to ramp up as Verizon customers' Android phones go off contract... like me and my "Incredible" phone. In truth, I thought "Incredible" meant some good, not something incredibly hard to use.
I live in a strong Verizon area which is also a weak AT&T area, so Verizon is my only option, and I'm looking forward to an iPhone with Verizon as an option soon.
You have it all azz-backwards.
The Apple iPhone G5 and G6 are well on their way to development. Nothing the competition is doing and had done is affecting Apple's planned generational improvement of function and design.
Instead it's the other way around. Apple's competitors are in a constant catch-up mode while also trying to leap-frog past Apple's expected next-generation marketing points. A good market leader will keep the budding competition off-balance as much as possible with unexpected new features or releasing new products or additions to the infrastructure at unexpected times.
Apple is heavily playing their own game and it is the competition that is improvising as they go along.
Everyone on this forum is thinking that the new Verizon iPhone with be generation 4, and generation 5 will come on the usual June date. What if Apple releases generation 5 early to Verizon and AT&T to catch all the competitors off guard and wreck their marketing plans?
There is evidence of exclusivity through 2012 in a court case. All rumors of the contract being "rewritten" are wishful thinking.
There wil be no Verizon iphone in 2011.
Well it was rumored for November 2010, Summer 2010, January 2010, and even before then. So that logic is flawed.
I'm sure when it doesn't arrive in January, the rumors for Summer will start anew and this time they will be different.
Well then why are there literally hundreds of articles from a couple years ago that discuss AT&T extending their contract to expire in 2011 instead of 2010?
You avoid my question. How many times has the WSJ wrongly reported the Iphone is going to be on Verizon?
If you mean that lawsuit about being locked to ATT for five years, there really is no definitive proof there. Read this article for more insight.
Ironically, it hinges on that original and oft-repeated USAToday article that mentioned a five year exclusive :
I don't have the link any more, but the original Strigl quote made it clear that he was JOKING about people being tied to ATT's substandard (at the time) network. He made up the number because it sounded bad. It was not an Apple or ATT quote.
One year later, the exact same USAToday writer said this:
Yes, that's right. USAToday later said the contract would end in 2010.
In addition, AT&T themselves said they signed a new contract in 2008 when the 3G came out.
All these contracts have tons of exit clauses for both parties, its just part of the game. If AT&T wasn't losing exclusivity, then why have all of my local stores pulled every iPhone sign they have and replaced them with Blackberry and Windows 7? In fact, the only iPhone sign is in the back of the store with the display of two phones....Windows 7 is getting a much larger billing in all the stores around here. I've even had some people ask if AT&T have stopped selling the iPhone due to lack of signage and advertising.
Do you want me to say once, twice or three times? I wouldn't throw out a guess. But we had this one last March which had the rumor mill about a September Verizon iphone:
And yes, the WSJ is reporting what others are saying in that article. Yet that is just what the opinion piece in the latest WSJ is doing too.
If you would like to pose questions to one another about Verizon iphone rumors, then I'll ask one. When ahs there been a rumor about a Verizon iphone that has actually come to fruition?
The article I read some time ago stated that it was revealed in the court case that the contract does exist. All articles that state otherwise have given little blurbs about how contracts can be written without offering any proof.
Proof is not needed to know that standard practices include exit clauses in almost every contract of this nature. The posiblity that the contract may have been until 2012 but has since been killed due to some buyout or failure to keep an SLA is very possible if not probable at this point.
Sitting there standing on the contract as your only foundation for denying the possibility of a Verizon iPhone is weak at best. Almost nobody in this forum believes that. Only 3-4 of you continue to throw that out there.
I agree the WSJ had a bad track record, but we now have confirmation from multiple independent sources. This rumor is no longer just running based on a story from the WSJ.
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