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This is super confusing to me. What happens if I am in a country where it’s not supported, but I want to use AI in plain old English (don’t care which version)?
 
Happy to see South Korea in the list.. now when they say « next year » let’s hope it’s before next September 🙃
 
Big of them to let India and Singapore to use English.

Yet still not available until next year...
 
Huh?

That only has to do with Bretton not being in the von der Leyen block, that's not a response to anything DMA-related.
Just guessing, but EU way ahead of America on privacy and other regulations so Apple and others likely not to keen on risking exposure in these markets. Personally, I'm grateful for EU and their fight to protect consumers.
 
It wont be available in the EU. As Germany is in the EU I’m afraid you are out of look for now. Until the EU gets its head out of its behind.

You can change just your region in system settings without changing the language, it's already working now, but only English is available.

Edit: Doesn't work now. But when German is available it should.

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So, back to English, but not because of that. I will turn it off because I don't need it. Siri too.

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I would love to see that, but Slovakia, Poland, Czech Republic, Croatia and more have no Siri in their language, so AI service will come like 2050…
Well, i’ve been testing Apple Intelligence on my devices and my native language is Slovak and on numerous occasions I was able to trigger the Summarization feature in Mail app for an email that was written in the Slovak language.

The summary itself was written in English ofc, but the content was correct, so the Apple LLM that processes the summarization on device is able to understand Slovak (and I assume other languages).

It's just the way LLMs work. It’s not especially limited to a certain language.

The only roadblock is the fine tuning and I would love Apple to give these slavic languages some love after 13 years without any support in Siri 1.0 😉
 
It wont be available in the EU. As Germany is in the EU I’m afraid you are out of look for now. Until the EU gets its head out of its behind.
Don't worry! Since Apple's aim is to make it a customer paid service (at least the online part), there's no world in which they keep EU out of the cashflow.
 
I have a question 🙋🏻‍♂️

Why is the photo cleanup dependant on the language of the phone? Shouldn’t that be available regardless of language?

Same with the maths things for iPads Calculator. Maths is universal, does not depend on language.

🤔
 


Apple Intelligence will start rolling out to the public in U.S. English only when iOS 18.1 is released in October, but additional languages will be added over the next year. The features are compatible with any iPhone 15 Pro or iPhone 16 model.

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Apple told publications including The Verge that Apple Intelligence will support the following previously-unannounced languages in 2025:

  • India (English)
  • Singapore (English)
  • Germany (German)
  • Italy (Italian)
  • South Korea (Korean)
  • Portugal (Portuguese)
  • Vietnam (Vietnamese)
Apple previously announced that support for English in Australia, Canada, New Zealand, South Africa, and the U.K. will be added in December (likely with iOS 18.2), and that support for Chinese, French, Japanese, and Spanish will be added next year.

iOS 18.1 is already available in beta for developers, and it includes Apple Intelligence features such as writing tools for proofreading text, notification summaries, suggested replies in the Messages app, the ability to record and transcribe phone calls, and a new "Clean Up" tool in the Photos app that can quickly remove objects from a photo.

Here's the full list of countries and languages that are now known:

  • U.S. (English) (October 2024)
  • Australia (December 2024)
  • Canada (December 2024)
  • New Zealand (December 2024)
  • U.K. (December 2024)
  • South Africa (December 2024)
  • China (2025)
  • France (2025)
  • Japan (2025)
  • Spain (2025)
  • India (2025)
  • Singapore (2025)
  • Germany (2025)
  • Italy (2025)
  • South Korea (2025)
  • Portugal (2025)
  • Vietnam (2025)
Due to the Digital Markets Act, Apple Intelligence will not be available on the iPhone and iPad in the EU, with the features limited to Macs with the M1 chip or newer there. Apple said it is discussing this issue with the European Commission.

Article Link: Apple Intelligence Available in These Additional 7 Countries Next Year
Due to the Digital Markets Act, Apple Intelligence will not be available on the iPhone and iPad in the EU, with the features limited to Macs with the M1 chip or newer there. Apple said it is discussing this issue with the European Commission.

And France, Italy, Germany, Spain, Portugal, ARENT in the EU??? Is this rally EU politics? Or is it apple again??
We, in Holland had to wait 7 years for a Dutch speaking Siri. And even then she didnt understand half of what we were saying.
The past 5 years i have counted SITXY ONE (!) nice goodies that were "US ONLY" sometime US and 3 other country's.
We pay around 20-30% more then people in the US, and were getting less and less!
 
I am 99% certain that Portuguese is not for Portugal but Brazilian portuguese…

Not even siri works in Portuguese from Portugal…
 
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Due to the Digital Markets Act, Apple Intelligence will not be available on the iPhone and iPad in the EU, with the features limited to Macs with the M1 chip or newer there. Apple said it is discussing this issue with the European Commission.

And France, Italy, Germany, Spain, Portugal, ARENT in the EU??? Is this rally EU politics? Or is it apple again??
We, in Holland had to wait 7 years for a Dutch speaking Siri. And even then she didnt understand half of what we were saying.
The past 5 years i have counted SITXY ONE (!) nice goodies that were "US ONLY" sometime US and 3 other country's.
We pay around 20-30% more then people in the US, and were getting less and less!
Because iPhones and iPads are subject to the Digital Markets Act, Apple AI will not be available on those devices in EU countries. Macs are not subject to the Digital Markets Act, so Apple AI will be available on Macs in those countries.
 
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We, in Holland had to wait 7 years for a Dutch speaking Siri. And even then she didnt understand half of what we were saying.
Don't worry, in Germany we had Siri in German right away and until today it still won't understand half of what I am saying. So you're not missing out on anything.
 
I wonder what specifically in the DMA that’s keeping AI from releasing in the EU.
The text of the DMA says if someone (e.g., Google, Meta) asks Apple for access to the APIs that Apple uses to make Apple AI function, it has to give that access (see text below). Given the level of access Apple needs to make that feature work (access to calendar, email, messages, etc.), it's not a huge shock that Apple isn't willing to release it others.

The gatekeeper shall allow providers of services and providers of hardware, free of charge, effective interoperability with, and access for the purposes of interoperability to, the same hardware and software features accessed or controlled via the operating system or virtual assistant listed in the designation decision pursuant to Article 3(9) as are available to services or hardware provided by the gatekeeper. Furthermore, the gatekeeper shall allow business users and alternative providers of services provided together with, or in support of, core platform services, free of charge, effective interoperability with, and access for the purposes of interoperability to, the same operating system, hardware or software features, regardless of whether those features are part of the operating system, as are available to, or used by, that gatekeeper when providing such services.
 
Yeah, always fault of laws and regulations. Why don’t we get rid of them all and let mega companies like Apple or Google decide what’s right and good? I am sure it would be an incredible experience.
Buy Samsung and use Bing if you don’t like these two. That’s how capitalism works.
 
The text of the DMA says if someone (e.g., Google, Meta) asks Apple for access to the APIs that Apple uses to make Apple AI function, it has to give that access (see text below). Given the level of access Apple needs to make that feature work (access to calendar, email, messages, etc.), it's not a huge shock that Apple isn't willing to release it others.
Dear lord, that DMA text is pretty damn awful. How do you innovate when if you come up with something clever you have to give competition everything you got free of charge? That’s worse than I thought.
 
Honestly I don't care about AI on my phone. I really don't see the use case for my private phone. On my work phone, I could see it helping but not that much as I would still need to read most of the mails myself as I would not be able to trust the AI not letting something slip.

But I still can't get over the presentation apple did when they showed, how AI can help formulate a nice long mail just for the AI on the other phone to summarize it again. o_O🤣
 
Dear lord, that DMA text is pretty damn awful. How do you innovate when if you come up with something clever you have to give competition everything you got free of charge? That’s worse than I thought.

Since you're not a multinational company, you're not beholden to the DMA - so innovate as much as you like, omenatarhuri 👍
 
Don't care about the language, as I use english everywhere, but I'm glad to see Apple is discussing the matter with the EU commission.
 
I don't understand this post. Is this about languages or countries? It says not available in the EU but also says will be available in Germany, France, Spain, Italy...
What I don't understand is that for many here in the forum iMacs or MacBooks don't seem to exist anymore. As the article says, Apple Intelligence will not be available on iOS or iPados devices in the EU. It will be available on MacOS devices like iMacs or MacBooks, hence the language support in German, French, Italian, etc.
 
Dear lord, that DMA text is pretty damn awful. How do you innovate when if you come up with something clever you have to give competition everything you got free of charge? That’s worse than I thought.
While I agree that the text they wrote is to generic and just tries to catch everything and everyone at the same time, I can see that capitalism would on the other hand completely kill any other service other then the one provided by the gatekeeper.
Imagine Apple just killing all music apps like spotify and you would be forced to pay 30% more just to use apple music because only that one works. (And also to everybody hating on the EU I suggest you read some articles about the the Apple Antitrust Lawsuit from the US Department of Justice ;))
 
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