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Not really an argument. We could call out Apple for similarly shady stuff. Like battery throttling. Thing is, Samsung is right to differentiate themselves from Apple because their AI tools work as advertised (or better) and they are available now.
They are for two different ends chesting in benchmarks and saving the battery life.

I’m not sure Samsung tools work better than advertised, but that’s for another off-topic discussion.
 
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Samsung also isn’t a “gatekeeper” so the DMA doesn’t apply to them. The regulations in the EU around Apple are incredibly more strict than Samsung.
I always bear in mind that Apple's attitude (the go elsewhere if you don't like it) got it where it is with regulators. This is completely and entirely of their own doing. I've heard plenty of podcasters more intimately versed with their dev relations say the same thing. To name a few, John Siracusa, Marco Arment, Jason Snell and many others. The alternative was getting in front of where the puck was going to, at a minimum, soften the blow or even avoid some regulation scrutiny entirely. Oops I guess
 
They are for two different ends chesting in benchmarks and saving the battery life.

I’m not sure Samsung tools work better than advertised, but that’s for another off-topic discussion.
Wait. You mean the fact that Samsung has a reliable assistant (gemini) and functional tools that reliably do what they say on the tin (photo retouch and object removal comes to mind) is not on topic for a subject about AI tools and assistants? What am I missing here...
I can speak authoritatively on this as I have a 16 PM and an S25 Ultra (and a pixel fold which also has a great AI experience). What am I missing- other than what Apple can't deliver on my otherwise snazzy 16 PM? The train left the station a long ways back I doubt Apple can catch up without a string of high profile firings and a complete tectonic shift in corporate mindset. I wish this wasn't true I want Apple to be strong here but realistically and given their software quality as of late (think decades) they can't. Apple's strength has become their weakness. Earlier someone posted a good pic with a Jobs quote and it should be required reading for everyone at the spaceship.
 
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Wait. You mean the fact that Samsung has a reliable assistant (gemini) and functional tools that reliably do what they say on the tin (photo retouch and object removal comes to mind) is not on topic for a subject about AI tools and assistants? What am I missing here...
I can speak authoritatively on this as I have a 16 PM and an S25 Ultra (and a pixel fold which also has a great AI experience). What am I missing- other than what Apple can't deliver on my otherwise snazzy 16 PM? The train left the station a long ways back I doubt Apple can catch up without a string of high profile firings and a complete tectonic shift in corporate mindset. I wish this wasn't true I want Apple to be strong here but realistically and given their software quality as of late (think decades) they can't. Apple's strength has become their weakness. Earlier someone posted a good pic with a Jobs quote and it should be required reading for everyone at the spaceship.
Yes. I’ve seen the reviews and Samsung tools do work semi-reliable the same as Apple tools work semi-reliable. So if you want to be an anecdotal point in time reference, I don’t doubt you and support you, but some of what I’ve seen is not that flattering to Samsung.
 
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I always bear in mind that Apple's attitude (the go elsewhere if you don't like it) got it where it is with regulators. This is completely and entirely of their own doing. I've heard plenty of podcasters more intimately versed with their dev relations say the same thing. To name a few, John Siracusa, Marco Arment, Jason Snell and many others. The alternative was getting in front of where the puck was going to, at a minimum, soften the blow or even avoid some regulation scrutiny entirely. Oops I guess
I listen to the same podcasters, disagree with them on some things and agree with them on others. Doesn’t change the fact that when it comes to the topic at hand, Samsung is considerably less constrained than Apple is, and this entirely explains Apple Intelligence’s lack of release in the EU, which is the only point I’m making.
 
Wait. You mean the fact that Samsung has a reliable assistant (gemini) and functional tools that reliably do what they say on the tin (photo retouch and object removal comes to mind) is not on topic for a subject about AI tools and assistants? What am I missing here...
I can speak authoritatively on this as I have a 16 PM and an S25 Ultra (and a pixel fold which also has a great AI experience). What am I missing- other than what Apple can't deliver on my otherwise snazzy 16 PM? The train left the station a long ways back I doubt Apple can catch up without a string of high profile firings and a complete tectonic shift in corporate mindset. I wish this wasn't true I want Apple to be strong here but realistically and given their software quality as of late (think decades) they can't. Apple's strength has become their weakness. Earlier someone posted a good pic with a Jobs quote and it should be required reading for everyone at the spaceship.
Except Gemini, arguably better than Apple Intelligence at this point, is not reliable at all.
 
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I’m sorry Tim, I can’t do that.

It is getting a little bit embarrassing how they go really REALLY hard during the presentation and then so many things (SW) just fizzle out. Is Stage Manager up and fully functioning yet?

Because hardware wise they are absolutely demolishing the competition. Well, except iPhone that is. On par.
 
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Anyone else find it ironic that the iPhone 16 Pro's biggest selling point this year was being 'built from the ground up' for Apple Intelligence, and we're now 1/3 of the way through the products lifecycle with just news of delays. Just me?

Maybe the iPhone 17 Pro will be the year of Apple Intelligence, we can just re-use all the marketing material.

It was built from the ground up for the CURRENT Apple Intelligence…..not like real Apple Intelligence.
 
This why they need to stop releasing new hardware and focus on the software they so busy releasing new devices they barely focusing on software it doesn’t matter how powerful the hardware is if the software is still behind
You should expect both from a company the size of Apple. The time Apple was on the forefront of technologies was the pre Tim Cook time. Siri is a key element for all their (future) hardware offerings and reliable voice assistants is not a novelty anymore. I can ask my tv to search with voice, program and do more things faster than with a keyboard. It just understands.

Apple has Siri for 14+ years now and it hasn’t progressed. AI can do things with photo’s what would take me hours to manually accomplish (and no, it’s not lack of skill).

software-and hardware development would go hand in hand. And using Apple’s own words: no one can do it better than Apple.

Still 60 hz frame rates on todays devices? No thanks

Still a braindead voice assistant on todays devices? No thanks

There really should come a big cleanup at the higher management levels at Apple. No way a company with so many resources could get away with this.
 
I wish Siri would be as smart as ChatGPT.

I just found another use case for GPT. Instead of googling and watching YouTube tutorials I just ask Siri how to do something. At the moment I am trying to master Pixelmator Pro. I was using Photoshop back in the days and I found myself often looking for ways to do something and not knowing where to find the button or menu. I found YouTube tutorials to be a big help but I couldn't memorize all of the small hidden features and a lot of the tutorials were not for what my workflow and use case was. So I asked ChatGPT to create a one day masterclass for people switching from PS to PM and it was very helpful. :)
 
Then, they shouldn’t advertise it like they did.
They aren't doing anything the other companies are: each one of them are announcing what they are working toward and when they miss the deadline "turns out this was harder than initially thought". This is a Wild West situation that is unprecedented. I have sympathy for them as a dev.
 
Where exactly is it stated ? 🤔

From https://www.apple.com/apple-intelligence/

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That change everything then. If it’s a beta, people should just stop using it if they don’t want to be beta testers
To your original point though, I honesty think it would be in Apple’s interest to make it more clear it is in beta, and to not be automatically turning it on. And this is coming from someone who likes and uses Apple Intelligence
 
To your original point though, I honesty think it would be in Apple’s interest to make it more clear it is in beta, and to not be automatically turning it on. And this is coming from someone who likes and uses Apple Intelligence
I agree with you. Being an informed and enthusiast Apple user , I didn’t notice they left it as a beta. Maybe it should be kept off by default and/or a banner informing the users should be displayed .
People will stop complaining on this forums…
 
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