Samsung also isn’t a “gatekeeper” so the DMA doesn’t apply to them. The regulations in the EU around Apple are incredibly more strict than Samsung.
They are for two different ends chesting in benchmarks and saving the battery life.Not really an argument. We could call out Apple for similarly shady stuff. Like battery throttling. Thing is, Samsung is right to differentiate themselves from Apple because their AI tools work as advertised (or better) and they are available now.
I always bear in mind that Apple's attitude (the go elsewhere if you don't like it) got it where it is with regulators. This is completely and entirely of their own doing. I've heard plenty of podcasters more intimately versed with their dev relations say the same thing. To name a few, John Siracusa, Marco Arment, Jason Snell and many others. The alternative was getting in front of where the puck was going to, at a minimum, soften the blow or even avoid some regulation scrutiny entirely. Oops I guessSamsung also isn’t a “gatekeeper” so the DMA doesn’t apply to them. The regulations in the EU around Apple are incredibly more strict than Samsung.
Wait. You mean the fact that Samsung has a reliable assistant (gemini) and functional tools that reliably do what they say on the tin (photo retouch and object removal comes to mind) is not on topic for a subject about AI tools and assistants? What am I missing here...They are for two different ends chesting in benchmarks and saving the battery life.
I’m not sure Samsung tools work better than advertised, but that’s for another off-topic discussion.
Then, they shouldn’t advertise it like they did.Hmmmm…. 🤔 I forgive them. The AI space is hot and a lot of wrong moves could be made if we got into a hurry. I don’t mind waiting for a fully cooked feature set that won’t compromise my security.
Yes. I’ve seen the reviews and Samsung tools do work semi-reliable the same as Apple tools work semi-reliable. So if you want to be an anecdotal point in time reference, I don’t doubt you and support you, but some of what I’ve seen is not that flattering to Samsung.Wait. You mean the fact that Samsung has a reliable assistant (gemini) and functional tools that reliably do what they say on the tin (photo retouch and object removal comes to mind) is not on topic for a subject about AI tools and assistants? What am I missing here...
I can speak authoritatively on this as I have a 16 PM and an S25 Ultra (and a pixel fold which also has a great AI experience). What am I missing- other than what Apple can't deliver on my otherwise snazzy 16 PM? The train left the station a long ways back I doubt Apple can catch up without a string of high profile firings and a complete tectonic shift in corporate mindset. I wish this wasn't true I want Apple to be strong here but realistically and given their software quality as of late (think decades) they can't. Apple's strength has become their weakness. Earlier someone posted a good pic with a Jobs quote and it should be required reading for everyone at the spaceship.
I listen to the same podcasters, disagree with them on some things and agree with them on others. Doesn’t change the fact that when it comes to the topic at hand, Samsung is considerably less constrained than Apple is, and this entirely explains Apple Intelligence’s lack of release in the EU, which is the only point I’m making.I always bear in mind that Apple's attitude (the go elsewhere if you don't like it) got it where it is with regulators. This is completely and entirely of their own doing. I've heard plenty of podcasters more intimately versed with their dev relations say the same thing. To name a few, John Siracusa, Marco Arment, Jason Snell and many others. The alternative was getting in front of where the puck was going to, at a minimum, soften the blow or even avoid some regulation scrutiny entirely. Oops I guess
I never said I believed them. I said it would be better to go back to how they used to do it instead of announcing something and then never hit the deadlines.but it is no one's fault but your own if you believed them. it isn't the first time apple has failed to deliver. "fool me once, shame on apple. ..."
Agree. Just offer AI as a “public beta” for customers at this point. It is dangerous to push an unfinished product.At this point I say push it to iOS 19
Except Gemini, arguably better than Apple Intelligence at this point, is not reliable at all.Wait. You mean the fact that Samsung has a reliable assistant (gemini) and functional tools that reliably do what they say on the tin (photo retouch and object removal comes to mind) is not on topic for a subject about AI tools and assistants? What am I missing here...
I can speak authoritatively on this as I have a 16 PM and an S25 Ultra (and a pixel fold which also has a great AI experience). What am I missing- other than what Apple can't deliver on my otherwise snazzy 16 PM? The train left the station a long ways back I doubt Apple can catch up without a string of high profile firings and a complete tectonic shift in corporate mindset. I wish this wasn't true I want Apple to be strong here but realistically and given their software quality as of late (think decades) they can't. Apple's strength has become their weakness. Earlier someone posted a good pic with a Jobs quote and it should be required reading for everyone at the spaceship.
Anyone else find it ironic that the iPhone 16 Pro's biggest selling point this year was being 'built from the ground up' for Apple Intelligence, and we're now 1/3 of the way through the products lifecycle with just news of delays. Just me?
Maybe the iPhone 17 Pro will be the year of Apple Intelligence, we can just re-use all the marketing material.
I’m not surprised, but which cheating are you specifically referring to ? 🤔But it also says something about Samsung, the company who cheated on benchmarks.
That's exactly what they are doing. The Apple Intelligence integrated into your OS IS public beta.Agree. Just offer AI as a “public beta” for customers at this point. It is dangerous to push an unfinished product.
You should expect both from a company the size of Apple. The time Apple was on the forefront of technologies was the pre Tim Cook time. Siri is a key element for all their (future) hardware offerings and reliable voice assistants is not a novelty anymore. I can ask my tv to search with voice, program and do more things faster than with a keyboard. It just understands.This why they need to stop releasing new hardware and focus on the software they so busy releasing new devices they barely focusing on software it doesn’t matter how powerful the hardware is if the software is still behind
Where exactly is it stated ? 🤔That's exactly what they are doing. The Apple Intelligence integrated into your OS IS public beta.
They aren't doing anything the other companies are: each one of them are announcing what they are working toward and when they miss the deadline "turns out this was harder than initially thought". This is a Wild West situation that is unprecedented. I have sympathy for them as a dev.Then, they shouldn’t advertise it like they did.
That change everything then. If it’s a beta, people should just stop using it if they don’t want to be beta testers
To your original point though, I honesty think it would be in Apple’s interest to make it more clear it is in beta, and to not be automatically turning it on. And this is coming from someone who likes and uses Apple IntelligenceThat change everything then. If it’s a beta, people should just stop using it if they don’t want to be beta testers
On Apples own website. It’s not difficult to find it ….Where exactly is it stated ? 🤔
I agree with you. Being an informed and enthusiast Apple user , I didn’t notice they left it as a beta. Maybe it should be kept off by default and/or a banner informing the users should be displayed .To your original point though, I honesty think it would be in Apple’s interest to make it more clear it is in beta, and to not be automatically turning it on. And this is coming from someone who likes and uses Apple Intelligence