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Apple Introduces 24" LED Cinema Display with Built-in iSight
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Right now, there is a merging of the lines. Apple should just call them all MacBooks, then have the Air as the only one with a second name.
Apple killed off the Xserve RAID, the only real pro machine Apple has is the MacPro, Final Cut Studio Pro 2 LAGS behind what is to be the Adobe Creative Suite, and many other reasons, I really think Apple is just targeting the consumer market, and is leaving the Pros the last years models and PCs sellers.
Using with laptop closed?
Sorry if it has been addressed already way to many pages to go back and read....but can you use this with the laptop closed? would suck to have to use always with it open. to just come and plug it in...have an external keyboard plugged into the monitor and get after it.
rockos
Sorry if it has been addressed already way to many pages to go back and read....but can you use this with the laptop closed? would suck to have to use always with it open. to just come and plug it in...have an external keyboard plugged into the monitor and get after it.
rockos
A lot of "pro" users are complaining here about the glossy screens on the notebooks, while I agree I don't like the glare of a glossy screen from my own research (and I am not a totally expert in the field but a full time pro photographer) the current matte screens are not good enough for color reproduction even when calibrated. I would never do any color critical work on my MBP. Just get a external display that is pro quality to hook your new MBP up to and you should be set 
Also all of you laptop users are doing your work in a room with correct lighting right? I have a feeling some of the people complaining are editing their photos in Starbucks anyways so the glossy screens really won't matter when you are already under a bad light to do your work at
Anyone let me know if I am wrong here and the old MBP displays are good enough for color critical work.
Also all of you laptop users are doing your work in a room with correct lighting right? I have a feeling some of the people complaining are editing their photos in Starbucks anyways so the glossy screens really won't matter when you are already under a bad light to do your work at
Anyone let me know if I am wrong here and the old MBP displays are good enough for color critical work.
Wow, what a bunch of whiners.
You'd think Steve came around and personally dropped a steaming pile on everyone's computers. Or that it was 1998 and Apple just killed the floppy disk. This too shall pass, you'll all get over it and wonder why it was such a big deal in the first place. And then the next thing will come along, ppl will complain again, send hate mail, swear never to buy another Mac ever again and insist that they will instead spend thousands of dollars to jump ship out of principle, then gradually get over it, lather rinse repeat... same predictable cycle.
And the new stuff does not invalidate the old stuff. Your computer is not worthless or useless just because you can't connect one particular display.
You'd think Steve came around and personally dropped a steaming pile on everyone's computers. Or that it was 1998 and Apple just killed the floppy disk. This too shall pass, you'll all get over it and wonder why it was such a big deal in the first place. And then the next thing will come along, ppl will complain again, send hate mail, swear never to buy another Mac ever again and insist that they will instead spend thousands of dollars to jump ship out of principle, then gradually get over it, lather rinse repeat... same predictable cycle.
And the new stuff does not invalidate the old stuff. Your computer is not worthless or useless just because you can't connect one particular display.
People think ahead!
First off the magSafe connector is there to power the laptop. Now take the same concept and apply it to the Minis replacement. This new monitor is not about the past but rather the future. It is a ideal platform for innovation with respect to small form factor machines.
Dave
First off the magSafe connector is there to power the laptop. Now take the same concept and apply it to the Minis replacement. This new monitor is not about the past but rather the future. It is a ideal platform for innovation with respect to small form factor machines.
Dave
Correct, and I don't know why anyone would even consider the display to be useful for any machine without a Display port.
The ad does say that it's a perfect companion for the MacBook and MBP and MBA.
As for editing on any monitor, if you tone correctly, which is not by your faulty ever changing eye at all, you'd be able to accurately tone on any monitor calibrated or not, glossy or not.
At this point however, I would still grab the previous ACD since it still is a matte display with full sized DVI, or a NEC that has H-IPS and a matte display.
I believe you are somewhat confused. The difference between the most recent generation Apple displays including this new one, and older displays is the backlighting. They are still LCD's however the backlighting which is on constantly, has changed from CC to LED. This has nothing to do with the refresh or change rate of the LCD panel itself.
iSight, speakers, ports, design style that no other manufacturer comes close to.
I guess you'd think I'm crazy for buying Bang and Olufsen. Thats fine. You live your McDonalds world and I'll live in my haute cuisine world.
I actually really like the new Cinema Display..However, does anyone have any thoughts on how it will compare with the current 23" ACD as I have a 3 month old one...I am looking to buy a new Cinema Display in January along with a Mac Pro and Macbook
Adaptor WILL be available to connect to DVI
I just had this conversation with an Apple rep:
So there you have it.
I just had this conversation with an Apple rep:
Hi, my name is Joyce A. Welcome to Apple!
Joyce A: Good evening.
Joyce A: How may I help you today?
You: Hey I have a question regarding the LED Cinema Display being released soon.
Joyce A: I would be happy to assit!
You: Will there be any adaptors released to allow this display to connect to a traditional DVI port?
Joyce A: We were told that adapters would be available but we were given no additional information.
You: I see. Well the main concern is whether I would be able to use the monitor both with a new 15" MacBook Pro, as well as with a current PC that has only DVI
You: So they gave no functional information about the adaptors?
Joyce A: No we were just told that the new display would require an adapter work with the DVI connection and that it would be available.
You: Ah, well that's all I need to know. As long as there will be one available
Joyce A: There will be one!
You: Thanks!
Joyce A: You're welcome.
Joyce A: Good evening.
Joyce A: How may I help you today?
You: Hey
I have a question regarding the LED Cinema Display being released soon.Joyce A: I would be happy to assit!
You: Will there be any adaptors released to allow this display to connect to a traditional DVI port?
Joyce A: We were told that adapters would be available but we were given no additional information.
You: I see. Well the main concern is whether I would be able to use the monitor both with a new 15" MacBook Pro, as well as with a current PC that has only DVI
You: So they gave no functional information about the adaptors?
Joyce A: No we were just told that the new display would require an adapter work with the DVI connection and that it would be available.
You: Ah, well that's all I need to know. As long as there will be one available
Joyce A: There will be one!
You: Thanks!
Joyce A: You're welcome.
So there you have it.
As optimistic as that is, I'd make purchasing decisions based on published information-- which right now says supported by the new laptops only.I just had this conversation with an Apple rep:
Hi, my name is Joyce A. Welcome to Apple!
Joyce A: Good evening.
Joyce A: How may I help you today?
You: Hey
Joyce A: I would be happy to assit!
You: Will there be any adaptors released to allow this display to connect to a traditional DVI port?
...
Joyce A: There will be one!
You: Thanks!
Joyce A: You're welcome.
So there you have it.
True. But you can't buy one yet anyway
Point being, I bet when November rolls around and you can actually pick one of these up, chances are you'll be able to pick up any needed adapters with it.
It's just as stupid to criticize a product based on as-yet-incomplete information, in any case.
Bs
No Mac Pro Support... my brand stinking new Mac Pro with a dying 23in HD display - new monitor is bigger, better cooler than the 23inch screen and the same price - that is BS - I'm buying a dell... of course only the monitor - could never abandon my OS.
No Mac Pro Support... my brand stinking new Mac Pro with a dying 23in HD display - new monitor is bigger, better cooler than the 23inch screen and the same price - that is BS - I'm buying a dell... of course only the monitor - could never abandon my OS.
You realize apple still sells all those other displays right?
(but if dell is cheaper and same specs, go for it)
True. But you can't buy one yet anyway
Point being, I bet when November rolls around and you can actually pick one of these up, chances are you'll be able to pick up any needed adapters with it.
It's just as stupid to criticize a product based on as-yet-incomplete information, in any case.
And even more stupid to base a purchase on an alleged conversation with an alleged Apple representative!
Apple can't even bother to publish the panel type!
This is unforgivable for a $900.00 monitor!
I first purchased one 20" ACD and then seven Dell 2007 WFP.
Why?
The Dell's cost a little over 1/2 as much as the ACD and when I determined that they both have the identical S-IPS panel, it was a no-brain purchase decision!
You don't have to drink the kool aid!
Apple needs to tell the world the panel type and if and when they plan on releasing an adapter and/or converter for the proprietary mini display port (female) to DVI (male)!
yea while the acd's are impressive, the price tags have always been wayyy up there. same argument could be made for most apple products though.
Yeah, $900 for what seems like a mid-grade display - no thanks!
If it was the rumored dock....
Also all of you laptop users are doing your work in a room with correct lighting right? I have a feeling some of the people complaining are editing their photos in Starbucks anyways so the glossy screens really won't matter when you are already under a bad light to do your work at
I've got the same feeling... More color is more better. The glass doesn't (and can't) over-saturate the color, it allows the color through cleanly. The same panel is giving the same color, it just isn't getting washed out by the matte coating. I think people just aren't used to the improved dynamic range.
The colorimeters need to be kept close to the panel to minimize pollution from ambient lighting and other portions of the display. Since the anti-glare coat causes less dispersion from both the panel itself and from the room light than the matte, the colorimeter won't need to be as close to the panel. Not gonna work from across the room (or in a Starbucks), but I don't think the quarter inch, or whatever, is gonna kill your calibration...
I haven't waded through the posts yet.
I was curious about the apparent metal encased MagSafe plug that I saw in MacWorld's coverage of the introduction of the new models today.
Is it metal? Interesting... It almost looked like an Air MagSafe...
I was curious about the apparent metal encased MagSafe plug that I saw in MacWorld's coverage of the introduction of the new models today.
Is it metal? Interesting... It almost looked like an Air MagSafe...
Okay, looked around and found other 24" LED monitors which, many in this thread seem to be forgetting this is NOT an LCD, but LED, which is new, better, different technology.
Compared to other competitors you'd pay $2,000 for their LED monitors of this size, such as Samsung.
Sure you can get a Dull, er, Dell with their sh***y plastic crappy casing for less, but Dull, who talks on their site a mean game about "going green" because they don't sell CRTs (WTF? Dull puts out as much PR garbage as computer garbage evidently), doesn't even sell an LED. So until they do, and it's less than a Cinema Display, it's not a valid argument to recommend them or any other manufacture as they're all LCDs, NOT LEDs!
Gripes yapping about the price differences without taking into consideration this is a different technology shouldn't be allowed as you're missing the point.
Allowed gripes: That glossy only option, the lack of this having Mac Pro standard DVI connector, or lake of FireWire ports, etc.
Compared to other competitors you'd pay $2,000 for their LED monitors of this size, such as Samsung.
Sure you can get a Dull, er, Dell with their sh***y plastic crappy casing for less, but Dull, who talks on their site a mean game about "going green" because they don't sell CRTs (WTF? Dull puts out as much PR garbage as computer garbage evidently), doesn't even sell an LED. So until they do, and it's less than a Cinema Display, it's not a valid argument to recommend them or any other manufacture as they're all LCDs, NOT LEDs!
Gripes yapping about the price differences without taking into consideration this is a different technology shouldn't be allowed as you're missing the point.
Allowed gripes: That glossy only option, the lack of this having Mac Pro standard DVI connector, or lake of FireWire ports, etc.