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The price is ridiculous for a mediocre monitor. You can get a better monitor for half the price. This product has convinced me Apple is just producing crap these days knowing every fool will empty their wallets for mediocre products with ridiculous price tags!
Do you know what mediocre means?
 
Hasn't Apple learned that consumers don't want limited-utility components. This is worse than ADC! Monitors should work with any computer in their line-up.

Voted NEGATIVE!
 
It just seems to me like theres so much missing- the entry point price for their laptops are way too high- £719 for the cheapest laptop!? When companies are selling £300 laptops with the same specs it just defies belief.

£650 for a monitor that can only be used with laptops!? I know the others are still there, but they're unchanged from 5 years ago.

Macbook pros gone up by £100 too.

Its like they've cut their product presentation half way through and they left out the £500 laptop, the £1000 macbook pro and the new DVI monitors. Half their line are the old style and the other half are the new style. Who's gonna buy a 17mbp now??

This doesnt look good for the future...

And the whole HD downloads is a load of balls. HD downloads are worse quality than DVD and technically not HD. Until there's a 1080p 40mbps video download, nothing will match blue-ray. What about the thousands of FCP HD users who have yet to have a fully intergrated HD workflow? Gotta use a PC to publish any content to HD discs.

Im starting to feel apple hit their peak at the £1300 MBPs and 8 core mac pro a year ago.......
What doesn't look good for the future, you mean Apple's future, yes I'm sure you know what's good for Apple's future. :rolleyes:
 
To everyone talking about Dells that are 1/2 the price...... they are half the price because they use PVA or TN technology. The apple displays use S-IPS (i am assuming this one does as well). If you do not know what this means try googling it.......


The Port deal and the glossy only is silly as hell........... Apple is out of touch as usual.

Also, the LED backlighting will mostly likely mean uneven brightness....unless they are a good bit ahead of the curve. I have no idea who this screen is aimed at......


I you want a REAL graphics monitor check out he NEC 2490 WUXi or 2690 WUXi.

Internal luts, A-tw polarizers, Wide gamut if you need it (2690 only), integrated calibration software/hardware with the spectraview packages.
 
Its a ploy to sell more over-priced laptops, so they sell some over-priced screens as well (I can buy a HD TV for that price!!!!).
Apple's price is overpriced but yet y'all kee buying them even though there are so called better alternatives out there. :D
 
What will us pro shooters do now that Apple appears to be removing matte screens across the line? Especially for the MacBook Pro's, it now looks like we'll no longer have the ability for true color editing on the road. Apple really needs to offer an HD-matte option for at least their 17inch MBP, if not the 15" as well. Their cinema displays should also be available in both flavors too. Thank you :(

~Dave

Yeh I agree it seems silly to get rid of the MBP's matte option. For the consumer stuff I see why they've done it - but surely if people pay enough for one of these machines they should have a screen of their choosing.
 
I'm starting to wonder if the cancer spread to his cranium. From the Stalin-esque iPhone NDA to this, he's gone complete erratic.
Dude I'm sure if it was you wish the illness, you wouldn't like people cracking jokes about it. :rolleyes:
 
I keep hearing that but why nobody explains why?

The gloss coating on the display increases the color contrast, which lowers the color accuracy. Furthermore, the $200-$1,000 color calibration sensors that a large number of print and photo professionals rely upon to keep their on-screen color accurate to the printed page will not work if there is a gap between the display and the colorimeter -- such as the gap between the panel and the glass case.

Or sandpaper-- that would probably work too...

Glare is a minor quibble, compared to color accuracy. Neither the matte screen appliques, nor sandpaper will help that.

Firewire is the only way to transfer video at a reliable bit rate... why would they eliminate it?
It's also the only method for FireWire target disk mode -- USB can't do that.

yeah - because photographers would never use anything that had glass in it. Like...um...camera lenses...:rolleyes:
He wasn't referring to any sort of moral objection to glass, just highly innaccurate color. $10,000 in camera equipment might as well be a cameraphone, if you can't accurately calibrate the color reproduction of the monitor.
 
Yeh I agree it seems silly to get rid of the MBP's matte option. For the consumer stuff I see why they've done it - but surely if people pay enough for one of these machines they should have a screen of their choosing.

I'm surprised that Steve wasn't aware that the matte option drove a lot of consumers looking to buy a MB into the waiting arms of a MBP, upping Apple's profits.

Furthermore, I've never seen anyone who's bought a gloss MBP.
 
Well, though I agree with almost everyone, I think what's being missed in all this, it's not an LCD, it's LED, which IS more expensive, in fact, Dull, HP, etc. is still using LCDs, which are not only not environmentally as friendly, they're also a bit dimmer, don't warm up as fast, nor are they as bright.

LEDs are just the backlight - the display is still LCD.

Using LEDs doesn't necessarily mean it's a good quality display.
 
Can someone please explain to me why it's such a great feature to have the iSight built into this display? Since it only (for now) works with Apple products that already have iSights? Is this feature really only for Mac buyers who use the just-released notebooks, and use them in clamshell mode with an external monitor?

Aren't Mac Pro users the ones who could really benefit from the iSight, since an external one is no longer offered? Surely they meant to include an adapter with this new display, but cut it out at the last minute and are playing up the "especially design for notebooks" bit to compensate.
 
nice screen - nice concept.

Really there are a bunch of whiners in this forum! Just face it technology moves forward and improves, Display Port is part of making things better.

Now that doesn't mean I wouldn't want to run the monitor on my current MBP, but it doesn't look like that will happen. The problem is signal compatibility, I don't expect to see cheap adapter cables.

In any event some of the other features are almost ideal. The built in power supply for the MBs is an excellent idea. Hopefully the hub is also powered. Frankly I see the potential for a lot of sales here if the panel gets reviewed well.

The big disappointment is people dismissing the screen even before seeing the unit in action. In many ways Apple has the ideal screen for the laptop crowd. Yeah a variant with a DVI connector would be nice but it doesn't diminish the utility of this screen for new users. Like I said I see big sales!


By the way to everybody whining about the economy please go out and get a job!!!!! If you start to believe that there is no opportunity out there you will not find it. The economy right now is ready for significant growth.


Dave
 
To everyone talking about Dells that are 1/2 the price...... they are half the price because they use PVA or TN technology. The apple displays use S-IPS (i am assuming this one does as well). If you do not know what this means try googling it.......

you mean like the 2407WFP? I got news for you...S-PVA and PVA are very different creatures. Apple has not actually told us if this display is S-IPS, and given the way they switched to S-PVS without telling anyone last year with the iMacs, I'd say you're really giving them too much credit here. I mean they put a glossy glass covering on this thing! Why bother with S-IPS if you're going to do that with it?

And just wanted to point out you can still get a Dell 3007WFP (which is S-IPS) for under 1,000 bucks. And it doesn't require mini DisplayPort.

Insane, this new display is. Not in a good way.
 
Really there are a bunch of whiners in this forum! Just face it technology moves forward and improves, Display Port is part of making things better.

Now that doesn't mean I wouldn't want to run the monitor on my current MBP, but it doesn't look like that will happen. The problem is signal compatibility, I don't expect to see cheap adapter cables.

In any event some of the other features are almost ideal. The built in power supply for the MBs is an excellent idea. Hopefully the hub is also powered. Frankly I see the potential for a lot of sales here if the panel gets reviewed well.

The big disappointment is people dismissing the screen even before seeing the unit in action. In many ways Apple has the ideal screen for the laptop crowd. Yeah a variant with a DVI connector would be nice but it doesn't diminish the utility of this screen for new users. Like I said I see big sales!


By the way to everybody whining about the economy please go out and get a job!!!!! If you start to believe that there is no opportunity out there you will not find it. The economy right now is ready for significant growth.


Dave

There is nobody considering buying new Apple products on here who doesn't have a job. The truth about this screen is it will be just like the 24 inch iMac screen, only with a brighter backlight.
 
surely this can't be true????

No company would release a display that can only be used with computers that nobody even owns yet????

I dont understand why they didn't include a DVI connector, other company have both display port and DVI on the same monitor

From the Apple Store specs:

"Made for the new MacBook family.

The LED Cinema Display is the first display designed specifically for the MacBook. Three easy connections allow you to extend your desktop, charge your MacBook and access a world of USB peripherals."

I think it's nuts!

momoe :apple:
 
This is terrible...

Steve must have been drunk??
Or...
He wants Apple to die??
Either way I feel sorry for Apple. :(
 
Well, though I agree with almost everyone, I think what's being missed in all this, it's not an LCD, it's LED, which IS more expensive, in fact, Dull, HP, etc. is still using LCDs, which are not only not environmentally as friendly, they're also a bit dimmer, don't warm up as fast, nor are they as bright.

In fact find me a cheaper LED display. And LED is much nicer than LCD, I know, I work on both. Sooo, yeah, it makes sense it's more expensive for now, the only dumb thing would be for Apple to leave it at this price point as the technology comes along, which THEN it's okay to gripe about the price.

As far as the gloss-only option though... I wonder if Jobs can see the back of his molars consider that's how far up his you know what his head has to be to give professionals that as the only option.


LED is used for back-lit... http://www.apple.com/displays/specs.html advantage is use less energy for laptop display. this thing plug in to the wall wouldn't make any different. another advantage is instantly turn on, if you don't have another micro-second to wait.
 
Really there are a bunch of whiners in this forum! Just face it technology moves forward and improves, Display Port is part of making things better.

Now that doesn't mean I wouldn't want to run the monitor on my current MBP, but it doesn't look like that will happen. The problem is signal compatibility, I don't expect to see cheap adapter cables.

In any event some of the other features are almost ideal. The built in power supply for the MBs is an excellent idea. Hopefully the hub is also powered. Frankly I see the potential for a lot of sales here if the panel gets reviewed well.

The big disappointment is people dismissing the screen even before seeing the unit in action. In many ways Apple has the ideal screen for the laptop crowd. Yeah a variant with a DVI connector would be nice but it doesn't diminish the utility of this screen for new users. Like I said I see big sales!


By the way to everybody whining about the economy please go out and get a job!!!!! If you start to believe that there is no opportunity out there you will not find it. The economy right now is ready for significant growth.


Dave

There is nothing wrong with DisplayPort itself, theres everything wrong with how apple is implenting it with its proprietary connector (again). Would it really kill them to have a DVI port on the monitor as well? Everyone else manages...

The integrated stuff is a nice idea no doubt, just not worth the money Apple wants.
 
you mean like the 2407WFP? I got news for you...S-PVA and PVA are very different creatures. Apple has not actually told us if this display is S-IPS, and given the way they switched to S-PVS without telling anyone last year with the iMacs, I'd say you're really giving them too much credit here. I mean they put a glossy glass covering on this thing! Why bother with S-IPS if you're going to do that with it?

And just wanted to point out you can still get a Dell 3007WFP (which is S-IPS) for under 1,000 bucks. And it doesn't require mini DisplayPort.

Insane, this new display is. Not in a good way.

Where can I find this unit for under 1k? WHERE WHERE WHERE?
 
I encourage all those, like myself, who can't use glossy displays [as a photographer, one must realize that matte is the only way one can do accurate color calibration as you stated], to please e.mail Steve Jobs and/or leave feedback on Apple's website, asking politely for a matte option on the MacBook Pros. While consumers may be happy with glossy, those in the photography/print/graphics world rely on matte displays.

We can always buy 3rd party displays, but we can't replace the displays built into laptops. As a photographer, I carry my MBP around with me with my cameras and use it in the field or at the hotel, etc, etc. I do not want to lug around a 3rd party external monitor with me!


I am with the above poster. I said it in the MBP thread and I'll say it again.
Write a comment to Apple. Even if they delete it, it'll do much more than we can, just complaining here.

Feedback boxes like this one:
http://www.apple.com/feedback/macbookpro.html
 
Typical fanboy comment.

Maybe if put more effort into reading posts before you quote them, and less energy into trolling, you would see I already stated I will NOT be buying one. :rolleyes:
JESUS CHRIST MAN. I dont give a **** if your buying it or not. If you continually bitch about it then its obviously not the product for you.

I dont see how that could be considered fanboy as I'd say it for any product.

Buying things is as simple as this: If you dont like it, dont buy it.


Oh but dont listen to me, my last statement was obviously just fanboy drivel.
 
Apple hasn't given a stuff about those that stayed with it when they were in the crapper for years.

All Steve has cared about for 6 years is the ***** iPod and recently the Phone.

This became even more apparent after the switch to Intel. In 3 years the pro line of desktops has seen 1 upgrade, that was in essence a joke. The pro display line has had no real updates for 4 years.

For those of you who can't understand why glass displays are terrible for colour correction.

Glass disturbs the path of light, especially glossy glass, there for a colour spider etc cannot get an accurate reading. The spider needs to be as close to the surface of the screen as possible.

For those of you who think it wont be a problem, nice to see your happy to produce shoddy work.
 
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