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Apple Introduces 24" LED Cinema Display with Built-in iSight
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What doesn't look good for the future, you mean Apple's future, yes I'm sure you know what's good for Apple's future. 🙄
BlueScreenX
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To everyone talking about Dells that are 1/2 the price...... they are half the price because they use PVA or TN technology. The apple displays use S-IPS (i am assuming this one does as well). If you do not know what this means try googling it.......
The Port deal and the glossy only is silly as hell........... Apple is out of touch as usual.
Also, the LED backlighting will mostly likely mean uneven brightness....unless they are a good bit ahead of the curve. I have no idea who this screen is aimed at......
I you want a REAL graphics monitor check out he NEC 2490 WUXi or 2690 WUXi.
Internal luts, A-tw polarizers, Wide gamut if you need it (2690 only), integrated calibration software/hardware with the spectraview packages.
The Port deal and the glossy only is silly as hell........... Apple is out of touch as usual.
Also, the LED backlighting will mostly likely mean uneven brightness....unless they are a good bit ahead of the curve. I have no idea who this screen is aimed at......
I you want a REAL graphics monitor check out he NEC 2490 WUXi or 2690 WUXi.
Internal luts, A-tw polarizers, Wide gamut if you need it (2690 only), integrated calibration software/hardware with the spectraview packages.
Apple's price is overpriced but yet y'all kee buying them even though there are so called better alternatives out there. 😀
Yeh I agree it seems silly to get rid of the MBP's matte option. For the consumer stuff I see why they've done it - but surely if people pay enough for one of these machines they should have a screen of their choosing.
Dude I'm sure if it was you wish the illness, you wouldn't like people cracking jokes about it. 🙄
mustang_dvs
macrumors 6502a
The gloss coating on the display increases the color contrast, which lowers the color accuracy. Furthermore, the $200-$1,000 color calibration sensors that a large number of print and photo professionals rely upon to keep their on-screen color accurate to the printed page will not work if there is a gap between the display and the colorimeter -- such as the gap between the panel and the glass case.
Glare is a minor quibble, compared to color accuracy. Neither the matte screen appliques, nor sandpaper will help that.
It's also the only method for FireWire target disk mode -- USB can't do that.
He wasn't referring to any sort of moral objection to glass, just highly innaccurate color. $10,000 in camera equipment might as well be a cameraphone, if you can't accurately calibrate the color reproduction of the monitor.
mustang_dvs
macrumors 6502a
I'm surprised that Steve wasn't aware that the matte option drove a lot of consumers looking to buy a MB into the waiting arms of a MBP, upping Apple's profits.
Furthermore, I've never seen anyone who's bought a gloss MBP.
LEDs are just the backlight - the display is still LCD.
Using LEDs doesn't necessarily mean it's a good quality display.
Can someone please explain to me why it's such a great feature to have the iSight built into this display? Since it only (for now) works with Apple products that already have iSights? Is this feature really only for Mac buyers who use the just-released notebooks, and use them in clamshell mode with an external monitor?
Aren't Mac Pro users the ones who could really benefit from the iSight, since an external one is no longer offered? Surely they meant to include an adapter with this new display, but cut it out at the last minute and are playing up the "especially design for notebooks" bit to compensate.
Aren't Mac Pro users the ones who could really benefit from the iSight, since an external one is no longer offered? Surely they meant to include an adapter with this new display, but cut it out at the last minute and are playing up the "especially design for notebooks" bit to compensate.
nice screen - nice concept.
Really there are a bunch of whiners in this forum! Just face it technology moves forward and improves, Display Port is part of making things better.
Now that doesn't mean I wouldn't want to run the monitor on my current MBP, but it doesn't look like that will happen. The problem is signal compatibility, I don't expect to see cheap adapter cables.
In any event some of the other features are almost ideal. The built in power supply for the MBs is an excellent idea. Hopefully the hub is also powered. Frankly I see the potential for a lot of sales here if the panel gets reviewed well.
The big disappointment is people dismissing the screen even before seeing the unit in action. In many ways Apple has the ideal screen for the laptop crowd. Yeah a variant with a DVI connector would be nice but it doesn't diminish the utility of this screen for new users. Like I said I see big sales!
By the way to everybody whining about the economy please go out and get a job!!!!! If you start to believe that there is no opportunity out there you will not find it. The economy right now is ready for significant growth.
Dave
Really there are a bunch of whiners in this forum! Just face it technology moves forward and improves, Display Port is part of making things better.
Now that doesn't mean I wouldn't want to run the monitor on my current MBP, but it doesn't look like that will happen. The problem is signal compatibility, I don't expect to see cheap adapter cables.
In any event some of the other features are almost ideal. The built in power supply for the MBs is an excellent idea. Hopefully the hub is also powered. Frankly I see the potential for a lot of sales here if the panel gets reviewed well.
The big disappointment is people dismissing the screen even before seeing the unit in action. In many ways Apple has the ideal screen for the laptop crowd. Yeah a variant with a DVI connector would be nice but it doesn't diminish the utility of this screen for new users. Like I said I see big sales!
By the way to everybody whining about the economy please go out and get a job!!!!! If you start to believe that there is no opportunity out there you will not find it. The economy right now is ready for significant growth.
Dave
you mean like the 2407WFP? I got news for you...S-PVA and PVA are very different creatures. Apple has not actually told us if this display is S-IPS, and given the way they switched to S-PVS without telling anyone last year with the iMacs, I'd say you're really giving them too much credit here. I mean they put a glossy glass covering on this thing! Why bother with S-IPS if you're going to do that with it?
And just wanted to point out you can still get a Dell 3007WFP (which is S-IPS) for under 1,000 bucks. And it doesn't require mini DisplayPort.
Insane, this new display is. Not in a good way.
Akira1980
macrumors 6502
There is nobody considering buying new Apple products on here who doesn't have a job. The truth about this screen is it will be just like the 24 inch iMac screen, only with a brighter backlight.
momoe
macrumors newbie
From the Apple Store specs:
"Made for the new MacBook family.
The LED Cinema Display is the first display designed specifically for the MacBook. Three easy connections allow you to extend your desktop, charge your MacBook and access a world of USB peripherals."
I think it's nuts!
momoe
LED is used for back-lit... http://www.apple.com/displays/specs.html advantage is use less energy for laptop display. this thing plug in to the wall wouldn't make any different. another advantage is instantly turn on, if you don't have another micro-second to wait.
There is nothing wrong with DisplayPort itself, theres everything wrong with how apple is implenting it with its proprietary connector (again). Would it really kill them to have a DVI port on the monitor as well? Everyone else manages...
The integrated stuff is a nice idea no doubt, just not worth the money Apple wants.
I am with the above poster. I said it in the MBP thread and I'll say it again.
Write a comment to Apple. Even if they delete it, it'll do much more than we can, just complaining here.
Feedback boxes like this one:
http://www.apple.com/feedback/macbookpro.html
NT1440
macrumors P6
JESUS CHRIST MAN. I dont give a **** if your buying it or not. If you continually bitch about it then its obviously not the product for you.
I dont see how that could be considered fanboy as I'd say it for any product.
Buying things is as simple as this: If you dont like it, dont buy it.
Oh but dont listen to me, my last statement was obviously just fanboy drivel.
I think apple really put out some duds this time around. I have severely mixed emotions on the laptops, its going to take some time and seeing one in person to know for sure how I feel about it, and this display is just stupid.
Apple hasn't given a stuff about those that stayed with it when they were in the crapper for years.
All Steve has cared about for 6 years is the f'ing iPod and recently the Phone.
This became even more apparent after the switch to Intel. In 3 years the pro line of desktops has seen 1 upgrade, that was in essence a joke. The pro display line has had no real updates for 4 years.
For those of you who can't understand why glass displays are terrible for colour correction.
Glass disturbs the path of light, especially glossy glass, there for a colour spider etc cannot get an accurate reading. The spider needs to be as close to the surface of the screen as possible.
For those of you who think it wont be a problem, nice to see your happy to produce shoddy work.
All Steve has cared about for 6 years is the f'ing iPod and recently the Phone.
This became even more apparent after the switch to Intel. In 3 years the pro line of desktops has seen 1 upgrade, that was in essence a joke. The pro display line has had no real updates for 4 years.
For those of you who can't understand why glass displays are terrible for colour correction.
Glass disturbs the path of light, especially glossy glass, there for a colour spider etc cannot get an accurate reading. The spider needs to be as close to the surface of the screen as possible.
For those of you who think it wont be a problem, nice to see your happy to produce shoddy work.