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Hasn't Apple learned that consumers don't want limited-utility components. This is worse than ADC! Monitors should work with any computer in their line-up.

Voted NEGATIVE!

You don't think that a DVI version of the LED ACD 24 will be out within the next month or two, followed by a 30" version?
 
I think when I first heard about this from the keynote it was initially just reported as a new cinema display....

Now reading the Apple website it's quite clear that's it's purely a macbook accessory.

I guess that's fine but how many people will actually buy one? I can't see many people getting one of these to hook up to their new Macbook ....

By spending a bit extra to include a DVI port, something which many other manufacturers offer alongside display port Apple could have sold LOTS more, especially considering the old cinema displays are so out of date by now.

A truly OTT accessory product...

Apple are constantly talking about what their consumers want. I don't think they have a clue what their consumers want, either that or they know or just do the opposite.

How many macbook users have been asking for an extra display that works only with their macbook??
 
This would be a great monitor for my mini mac, i could get rid of my video camera and speakers, but it won't work with it!

Plus, surely all the other features it has are pretty much redundant if you have a macbook, because the macbook has speakers, a mic and a isight already. Seem like its just a very expensive macbook charger.
 
I really like the "docking station" cord idea. Leave everything else plugged into the monitor and you just have to plug in the 3 headed cord. A little more elegant than it was.

Adding support for an external sound system would be nice too (who doesn't have a 2.1 or 5.1 computer sound system?)
 
Really there are a bunch of whiners in this forum! Just face it technology moves forward and improves, Display Port is part of making things better.

Now that doesn't mean I wouldn't want to run the monitor on my current MBP, but it doesn't look like that will happen. The problem is signal compatibility, I don't expect to see cheap adapter cables.

In any event some of the other features are almost ideal. The built in power supply for the MBs is an excellent idea. Hopefully the hub is also powered. Frankly I see the potential for a lot of sales here if the panel gets reviewed well.

The big disappointment is people dismissing the screen even before seeing the unit in action. In many ways Apple has the ideal screen for the laptop crowd. Yeah a variant with a DVI connector would be nice but it doesn't diminish the utility of this screen for new users. Like I said I see big sales!


By the way to everybody whining about the economy please go out and get a job!!!!! If you start to believe that there is no opportunity out there you will not find it. The economy right now is ready for significant growth.


Dave

I dont have a job after Apple made me redundant!!!! position outsourced to Singapore and been jobless since May 2008....

So the money they save on monkey workers is the reason they spend peanuts and have more money saved, than consideration of expanding Mac technology in every household but to alienate new buyers.

to look at this line up is a complete joke!!!

sure technology moves forward but not considering the previous Gen. users... makes me want to chop down an Apple tree.. collect all the rotten Apples and post it to his office.

I'm sure Apple has now or reached the $20 Billion cash amount with all the money they have collected from consumers... but i now think Steve is concerned about money than people.

I wonder if he is actually collecting all that money to use to create a clone of himself.. and if that happened he'd say..

"Yes, my clone was developed using Mac technology... boom!"
 
LED is used for back-lit... http://www.apple.com/displays/specs.html advantage is use less energy for laptop display. this thing plug in to the wall wouldn't make any different. another advantage is instantly turn on, if you don't have another micro-second to wait.

It's a bigger advantage than that. It can take anywhere from 15 to 90 minutes for a CCFL display (such as the current ACDs) to stabilize.

http://images.apple.com/pro/pdf/AppleReport2005_rc1_051214.pdf

Warmup and stability
The warmup time and color stability remain more or less the same as before for the 20” and the new
30” displays. The display will stabilize after a warmup time of about 90 minutes, which is normal for
these types of TFT displays. The 23HD display even stabilizes in about 15 minutes!
 
The gloss coating on the display increases the color contrast, which lowers the color accuracy.

It changes the _perceived_ contrast, accentuating it in the same ways that matte displays _deaccentuate_ contrast. Neither is incorrect, in just the same way that gloss or matte paper are both valid choices. I have no problem doing making a living doing "pro" Photoshop work on my glossy MBP. The gloss doesn't affect the spectral reading of a color patch one way or the other.

Furthermore, the $200-$1,000 color calibration sensors that a large number of print and photo professionals rely upon to keep their on-screen color accurate to the printed page will not work if there is a gap between the display and the colorimeter -- such as the gap between the panel and the glass case.

My Eye One doesn't care about distance to the light source as long as strong lighting isn't being introduced from the sides. If you've got bright light coming sideways across your monitor, you're going to be unable to calibrate regardless of monitor technology.

To be honest, this whole concept that a pro cannot use a gloss LCD panel sounds a whole lot like the discredited notion that you can't do accurate color work on anything but a CRT. Which was a whole lot like the old-school guys grumbling that you couldn't do good color work on a computer at all.
 
Are the old Cinema Displays Matte? I may actually pick on up now lol

The prices of the Cinema Displays have remained constant since 2007. If anything, they are vastly overpriced, even by Apple standards. :D

This new 24" LED display is EPIC FAIL.
 
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE ****ING KIDDING ME!!!

You can only use that with a laptop?

Steve, you must be brain dead coming up with this stupid idiotic idea.

I guess I will never be able to replace my 24" Westinghouse HD monitor with a Cinema...

BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO BUSY MAKING CINEMAS FOR LAPTOP USERS!!!

ARGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
As usual, price-whiners are out in force.
Which group has bigger numbers? Price-whiners or gloss-whiners?

I find the "Apple is forcing me to buy something too expensive that I don't like and can't use" posts the most humorous, although I have to admit an occasional chuckle at the "Despite enormous growth in sales in a down market, Apple's refusal to build what I'm asking for proves they have no product sense."
 
That Dell is a PVA panel. The Apple is IPS. Big difference.
Have you found somewhere that confirms this? Makes sense, given the 14ms response time. That would leave the question, S-IPS or H-IPS? I have the Dell, side by side with my old iMac G5 20". There really is no comparison, the iMac looks a million times better. I wish I'd gotten a CD instead, and would have with this new display. Oh well.

The connector is a problem. Anyone remember ADC? Hopefully there'll be a solution for owners of Macs other than the new notebooks.
 
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE ****ING KIDDING ME!!!

You can only use that with a laptop?

Steve, you must be brain dead coming up with this stupid idiotic idea.

I guess I will never be able to replace my 24" Westinghouse HD monitor with a Cinema...

BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO BUSY MAKING CINEMAS FOR LAPTOP USERS!!!

ARGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry, your email was mis-addressed. It was accidentally received by a rumors forum focused on Apple products which has no affiliation with the manufacturer.

Steve Jobs works for Apple Inc, and correspondence intended for him is better sent there.
 
For those of you who can't understand why glass displays are terrible for colour correction.

Glass disturbs the path of light, especially glossy glass, there for a colour spider etc cannot get an accurate reading. The spider needs to be as close to the surface of the screen as possible.

For those of you who think it wont be a problem, nice to see your happy to produce shoddy work.
Have fun crushing your shadow detail as you overcompensate for the raised black levels that matte-finish screens produce, and overcompensating the saturation in turn.

The truth is, neither glossy nor matte screens laptop screens are going to give you anywhere near accurate colors and contrast. Under controlled lighting conditions, glossy screens are superior* because of truer black levels and associated saturation, and sharpness. With unpredictable lighting, one type of screen or the other might be better depending on the circumstances (more accurate color and better sharpness won't help you much if you can't see the screen because of glare).

* All else being equal, of course, with the same display and backlighting.
 
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE ****ING KIDDING ME!!!

You can only use that with a laptop?

Steve, you must be brain dead coming up with this stupid idiotic idea.

I guess I will never be able to replace my 24" Westinghouse HD monitor with a Cinema...

BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO BUSY MAKING CINEMAS FOR LAPTOP USERS!!!

ARGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

um buy display, buy a displayport to dvi adapter (wouldn't be surprised if apple makes one) and have your new display - Not ideal but if you want the monitor that much :rolleyes:
 
Not new

I really like the "docking station" cord idea. Leave everything else plugged into the monitor and you just have to plug in the 3 headed cord. A little more elegant than it was.

You do know this isn't the first time Apple has done some thing like before. The PowerBook Duos had a docking station where it has all the ports and you could connect you Mac monitor it.

Side it in, and you got a full desk top machine. Also note the PowerBook Duos didn't have any ports on the back expect for one printer/modem port, power port and, the big port for the docking station.

So the question here is Apple going backward in design.. :confused:


Hugh
 
um buy display, buy a displayport to dvi adapter (wouldn't be surprised if apple makes one) and have your new display - Not ideal but if you want the monitor that much :rolleyes:

Well, if it was meant for the Mac Pro, wouldn't it say you could use it with a Mac Pro?:rolleyes:
 
Whats Up With All Of the Apple Playa Hatas?

Apple must really be living in a parallel universe where the global economy is not in meltdown mode.

$899 for this? $1000 for 3 years' ago MacBook? You've got to be kidding me.

We are entering a long period of consumer pull back, there aren't enough fan boys in the world to keep up Apple's growth under these economic conditions at these prices.

Just like they cut down the insane $600 price of the iPhone 3 months after introduction, watch how they cut down the price of these computers by $300 in January.

The reason that it's $900 is because LED backlit flat panels are new technology. Sony and Samsung have this technology only available on their highest end TV's. A 46 inch Sony with LED backlight cost $4,999.00.

As for the glass screen and black edge surround, this is the latest trend in plasma and LCD televisions. It helps to show off the deep blacks which helps with image detail.

I think the price of these macbooks are dead on. $1300 for a great notebook with elegant design and the latest technology is pretty cheap. And hardly any other laptops are using LED screens and solid state drives.

The reason for the keynote is because laptops are Apple's most selling computer so yes this is a very important speech.

I think all of you people with negative comments should do some research before bashing Apple. They are the leaders in comp technology and know when to make changes such as leaving old firewire in the dust. Quit bitching and buy a new one today. If you don't like what they sell then go back to Dell and Vista.

:apple:
 
Seems kinda consumer-ish, at a "Pro" pricepoint.

I agree, perfect comment and it extends to the failure that is the MBP. I knew that it was going the consumer route, but Apple went far beyond anything I could have seen.

It's really a step backward on the Pro side in my honest opinion.
 
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