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I don't think will be awkward for Pro Mouse users to click the two side buttons. I currently use the pro mouse, and I always have my thumb and pinky finger on the two little side areas that are clickable on the Mighty Mouse. I guess I do this because that is how you lift the mouse and move it across the mousepad while still clicking. So, I'm already trained to click both sides at once. Josh
 
mkubal said:
Tap sensitive buttons....eh. I find myself tapping the top buttons on my mouse all the time which would probably result in accidental clicks. I certainly like the 360º scroll, but other than that I'm not that interested. I'd like to try one to see what it's like though. Who knows, maybe I'd love it.

Go to the Apple Store in International Plaza.
 
good for apple to finally release a multi button mouse as a choice... i hope buyers will get the choice between this and the normal one when buying a new mac

the scrolling ball is a great idea and the touch sensitive thing is the typical gimmick way of going around having a real multi button mouse/breaking with their history ( with which i don't agree)

personally i prefer standard click buttons not only because of games but because i tend to use different finger setups for my mouse depending on situation

and so far my microsoft explorer v1 is still going strong and has everything i want since i bought it years ago (for the same price like this new one)


way to go apple i hope when my parents finally buy a mac they will choose this mouse
 
MontyZ said:
Let's make a new rule: No bitching about a product unless you've actually bought it and used it.

All the years people have been screaming for a 2-button Apple mouse, and now that it's finally here, it's just one big bitchfest.

Be happy people. It's only a mouse. Okay, a Mighty Mouse.

Finally a voice of sanity. I am amazed at all the misinformation I have read in this thread by people that have no clue at all.

I bought one yesterday. It is simple to use. You do NOT have to lift any fingers to click. It is tactile. It clicks just like any other Apple mouse, ie you press down. Press down on the right side, get a right click. Press down on the left side, get a left click. That simple. The middle button, scroll ball works that easily as well.

Come on people, try something before you carry on about it.
 
oskar said:
Actually I was agreeing with you about the mighty mouse. I was rolling my eyes because I mentioned the video iPod which is kind of off-topic.
As I had said in another post, the design of the mouse clearly came from the the idea of contradicting a "two-button" mouse design. The mouse works like a multi button mouse, while only having one button, so... Apple can get away with saying that they still use a one-button mouse on Macs. I was wondering what excuse they'll come up with when the iPod finally gets video which Jobs said is impractical on such a small screen. They'll have to come up with a design and marketing gimmick such as this one to avoid looking like they contradicted Jobs.

If the mouse is included in Macs from now on, I think there's nothing wrong with the design and nobody should complain as it probably behaves pretty much like the standard Apple pro mouse and finally has a way to right click which is the thing that everybody (including me) have always complained about.
Sorry to miss the sarcasm on the mouse. I did get your point about the video iPod. My guess is that they'll launch it when iTMS can handle selling videos or TV episodes or something. They'll throw in something extra and then say, well a video iPod just to watch your home movies isn't worthwhile, but now that you can watch music videos, video podcasts and/or purchased tv/movie content, while of course now it makes sense to have video capabilities. I certainly hope they don't do something gimmicky with the video iPod to avoid appearing too contradictory - they didn't do anything outrageous when they contradicted themselves and released the Shuffle.
 
Well, I realize this thread has more positives than negatives, but this mouse must be doing very well. Here's my latest message from apple.

Due to an unexpected delay, we are unable to ship the following
item(s) by the date that you were originally quoted:

MA086LL/A, MIGHTY MOUSE STAND ALONE KIT-USA
will now ship on or before 08/09/2005


Ok. Please stop buying this now so I can get mine. Thank you. :D
 
Lacero said:
Let's not get too excited. Apparently, there are several ergonomic issues that have risen. Two include depressing of the scroll button makes scrolling nearly impossible and the side buttons make using the mouse more cumbersome than it needs to be.

You must have misread my post - my comment was in terms of its design and its aesthetics - this has nothing to do how it actually functions and feels!
 
Apple is always like that. They announce a product and just as irritatingly, announce an "unexpected" delay in shipping out products. Their inventory and middle managers need to be fired.
 
Lacero said:
Apple is always like that. They announce a product and just as irritatingly, announce an "unexpected" delay in shipping out products. Their inventory and middle managers need to be fired.

Yeah, this has happened many times before. But in this instance, in Apple's defense, who would have thought something relatively simple like a new mouse would generate so much buzz and so many sales right off the bat! (Not to mention 837 posts on the subject in a short period of time!)

mcarnes said:
Yes, remember this is a complaint thread. If you don't have something to complain about then don't bother posting.

Nice one. :D
 
MontyZ said:
Let's make a new rule: No bitching about a product unless you've actually bought it and used it.

All the years people have been screaming for a 2-button Apple mouse, and now that it's finally here, it's just one big bitchfest.

Be happy people. It's only a mouse. Okay, a Mighty Mouse.

I don't have to try it to know that it's wired, non-laser (won't track on my desk) and the same attractive but crappy to use shape. I'm happy Apple finally has a multi-button mouse... but aside from the amazing scroll ball idea... it still doesn't compare to my wireless Logitech laser mouse.
 
oskar said:
Exactly. People don't hesitate to complain about the mouse, when the truth is there's nothing much to be excited about if you never liked the original pro mouse in th first place. Just pretend Apple didn't realease this. :p

True enough. It would just be nice not have to use an ugly Logitech mouse. My Logitech Laser mouse is, I think, the best mouse ever... it's really amazing. But it looks pretty ugly sitting next to my G5 iMac. And I'd prefer to support Apple. I might be able to get used to the shape of the new Apple mouse (doubtful since my pro mouse drove me up the wall after a week of using it)... but I cannot accept the optical tracking system since the pointer will zig zag all over the screen when I try to us it on my desk without a mouse pad. I'm sure bluetooth will be coming... so that erases my wired complaint... but with my pro mouse... it would lose it's connection at least once a day and refuse to reconnect without doing through a bunch of voodoo of restarting bluetooth, turning the mouse on and off... etc. Extrodinarily annoying to say the least.
 
Griffindor73 said:
Posts like these annoy me! HOW DO YOU KNOW! You haven't used it yet! How do you know it has any flaws? Honestly....

The flaws (flaws in my view) I pointed out have to do with the shape (which I'm familiar with and have used before), the wire (which is fact) and the tracking system (non-laser). These are simply facts. I don't have to try the mouse to evaluate the above three points.
 
erio said:
Here are someone pictures from someone who bought it Japan. Apparently, there is a small bug that was discovered by the user. The bug was discovered during dragging and dropping while accidentally lifting the mouse and "squeezing" it, causing expose (default for squeeze) to open. when that occured, the mouse can no longer click, but still able to move around. Please don't quote me on this since there's something "lost in translation".

I'm not sure if uploading pictures on new Apple products are okay on this board since I am new. If not, please let me know, and I will take it down.

Another example of Apple putting looks before function. I think Apple does everything great... their OS... their machines... no one can touch them... but honestly, they cannot design a mouse. The scroll ball idea is brilliant and I'd love to have that for Photoshop... but otherwise, this mouse still has usability issues.
 
Looks like a decent mouse, but I have a strange feeling that this coupled with the Intel "transition" means the end of Mac as we know it... If the Microsoft teams assigned to copying OS X do a decent job, the only way we'll be able to tell a Mac from PC is from the actual computer's superficial design, what with them both having the same processor architecture thingy. *sob* :(
 
Takeo said:
but otherwise, this mouse still has usability issues.
Their pro mouse has usability issues. Every Apple mouse ever made has usability issues. From the Hockey Puck mouse to the Mighty Mouse, Apple continually screws up. Personally I use a Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer and it feels so much better in my hand than the pro mouse that came with my G5.
 
SkAlex said:
The "squeeze" activating dashboard seemed a little awkward to me...dashboard was only active while you kept squeezing. I could see how some people might like this as well though.
It's a feature. If you squeeze for a short time (shorter than the double click time) then Dashboard (or Expose) will deactivate once you let go. But if you squeeze for shorter than the double click time, it will stay open until you close it with another squeeze. You can see this behavior with function key activation of Dashboard/Expose as well. It's just that we usually don't hold down function keys, we typically just tap them.

Adjusting the double click time can make this happen unpectedly less often.
 
It seems like everytime apple releases a new product, everyone gets in an uproar. Until you really think about it and then opinions are quickly changed. I first looked at this mouse, thinking. What a stupid idea. NO click how do you know when you click. and ect. Then i read. and read is thread and now it all makes sence. Then after using it yesterday afternoon. Its absolutely excellent. Apple, i apologize, for jumping to conclusions, another great product
 
G5isAlive said:
Finally a voice of sanity. I am amazed at all the misinformation I have read in this thread by people that have no clue at all.

I bought one yesterday. It is simple to use. You do NOT have to lift any fingers to click. It is tactile. It clicks just like any other Apple mouse, ie you press down. Press down on the right side, get a right click. Press down on the left side, get a left click. That simple. The middle button, scroll ball works that easily as well.

Come on people, try something before you carry on about it.

That's not entirely true. I got one too and had alot of trouble getting the right mouse button response. I found that my finger cannot be touching the left side or the right click won't work. This will be a little bit of a habit-breaker for people like me who rest both fingers on the mouse while using it.
 
Takeo said:
The flaws (flaws in my view) I pointed out have to do with the shape (which I'm familiar with and have used before), the wire (which is fact) and the tracking system (non-laser). These are simply facts. I don't have to try the mouse to evaluate the above three points.

Can someone tell me if there is a difference between an optical mouse and a "laser" mouse? If there is, then I've learned something new today.

However, the mighty mouse is an OPTICAL mouse. I think too many people are seeing the word "scrollball" and thinking that's the ball inside the mouse (to move the mouse).

From Apple's page:
Configuration Mighty Mouse
Model MA086LL/A
Power Source USB cable
Cables USB 1.1 (compatible with either USB 1.1 or USB 2.0 ports)
Scroll Ball 360-degree Scroll Ball with adjustable scrolling
Buttons Up to four programmable buttons: full-body button with touch-sensitive technology beneath for left-, right- and Scroll Ball clicking. Force-sensing side buttons.
Tracking Optical
Shape Elliptical
System Requirements Mac OS X (programmability requires Mac OS X v10.4.2 Tiger or later), or Windows 2000 or Windows XP.


Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
deputy_doofy said:
Well, I realize this thread has more positives than negatives, but this mouse must be doing very well. Here's my latest message from apple.

Due to an unexpected delay, we are unable to ship the following
item(s) by the date that you were originally quoted:

MA086LL/A, MIGHTY MOUSE STAND ALONE KIT-USA
will now ship on or before 08/09/2005


Ok. Please stop buying this now so I can get mine. Thank you. :D

It must be selling well as it went from same day shipping on the Apple Store to 2-4 day wait. I'm sure this is just the early rush but still a good sign.
 
Lacero said:
Their pro mouse has usability issues. Every Apple mouse ever made has usability issues. From the Hockey Puck mouse to the Mighty Mouse, Apple continually screws up. Personally I use a Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer and it feels so much better in my hand than the pro mouse that came with my G5.

Just looking at this, I still think it could sell a load more if it had drawn the mouse buttons on top of it - maybe even a little sticker. My first impressions were that people (ie PC users or Mac newbies) would still think its a one button mouse and be put off by that, or even worse get confused by there being no clear definition of the buttons and get worried that they might accidentally press the wrong button.

NB: Apologies if something like this has been posted before - 33 pages is just too long to digest!
 
deputy_doofy said:
Can someone tell me if there is a difference between an optical mouse and a "laser" mouse? If there is, then I've learned something new today.
There is a difference. I don't know the technicalities... but they are different. :eek: I'll shush and let someone else elaborate.
 
One uses LEDs the other uses real LASERS. ie. Light Amplification by Stimulated Emmissions of Radiation. Omigod.
 
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