Sometimes they'll run a random promo, you might get lucky with an iPhone release, but for the most part they tell the customer to piss off. Very anti-consumer.
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Apple Invites Media to September 7 Event: 'See You on the 7th'
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Really? I've tried nearly a dozen (and use 3-4 pairs regularly) of bluetooth headphones and delays have never been an issue (going back 5+ years). Which headphones are you using that you experience a delay?
Ok, you're pretty crazy. Things staying the same for the sake of staying the same hardly makes sense.
these threads are always funny, people complaining and speculating up until the keynote. 98% of the people viewing this thread will be the ones that pre-order whatever Apple unveils anyway. What's the point of arguing about lightning vs 3.5mm vs USB-C, Apple doesn't need to hear your opinion, they are going to build what they want, and think is right... and you are going to buy it! Same old stuff every year.
Hmm. Maybe one day we'll be able to bypass our ears and hook directly into our brains. Maybe we'll actually get full digital audio then? Lol
I never owned one, and I don't plan to own one. The ones I tried - including Beats - were just awful when watching a video. The delay was visible enough to bother me.
Question 1: how much did you pay for your headphones?
Question 2: how much more battery does the iPhone use when BT headphones are on?
Question 3: how many hours before you have to recharge the headphones?
but you can't compare the headphone jack to the change of NTSC to ATSC. just like people shouldn't compare the headphone jack to dropping of floppy. Each change is unique in it's own right. FTC (and other agencies) had to move from ATSC from NTSC because of limitations of the analogue signal over the air running out of bandwidth. Changing to digital opened up the airwaves for far more channels, and far more functionality.
Dropping headphone jack isn't nearly the same. I agree with you. Unless there's some new universal standard that every single audio maker decides to switch to, I'm not buying a phone that doesn't have a headphone jack.
so i think we're in agreeance overall
And whatever limitations and flaws Apple cites on the 7th pertaining the our trusted headphone jack should be greeted with rabid defiance and hatred. Whatever Lightning solves and improves should not be evaluated as innovation.
I'm interested in moving technology forward and if the only way Apple could have improved the audio experience was to ditch the headphone jack and develop Lightning earphones, they will have shown the world they can't innovate. True innovation is keeping things the same but making new things better by staying the same.
You can still do that without removing the 3.5mm jack.Hmm. Maybe one day we'll be able to bypass our ears and hook directly into our brains. Maybe we'll actually get full digital audio then? Lol
Someone usually posts a link here or on the Apple subreddit the morning of the event that you can paste into VLC to watch there.
Just wondering how many people in the audience will be cheering and whooping on cue ...
Interesting. You wrote off bluetooth headphones entirely from spending a few minutes with Beats? Beats did have a problem in the past. But they updated the firmware to resolve the delay a few years back.
I have a Moto Hint I use every day - for whenever I need to make phone calls or for listening to podcasts while walking around the house. It comes in a little carrying case that charges it several times.
I've been using Jaybirds for 4 years for running & cycling. They get maybe 6-7 hours per week of use while running/cycling and then I charge them once a week.
I can't really compare my iPhone's battery life as I've always used bluetooth audio on it. Hasn't been an issue.
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And we should have kept the floppy, cdrom and ethernet.
I get it, you guys like living in the past.
I had a huge VHS collection. Then DVD came out and I switched only when greedy Hollywood stopped producing pictures in VHS. So I bought a DVD player and repurchased some titles in DVD.
Then Blu-Ray came out. Suddenly the hundreds of dollars I spent in DVDs were for nothing. But I bought a Blu-Ray anyway and repurchased some titles.
Then Apple dropped the optical drive altogether. I refuse to buy anything on iTunes. But thankfully I stopped supporting Apple after they dropped the floppy with the stupid iMac, and, yes, I still use floppies.
And now it's the headphone jack. Makes me laugh. Next they'll remove the display, call that innovation somehow.
Don't care how great Lightning is. Headphone jacks are good enough. If Apple thinks we're being held back on the iPhone platform because of some old tech, so be it! Being held back is good innovation.
Even in its imperfect state, wireless is taking off so if Apple figured out how to make it work perfectly, whether with BT5 or their own proprietary solution (which I hope they license or make open source) that will be a big deal.
Yeah my hopes aren't up and it will only be the difference of a couple of weeks so no big deal really. I am a patient man!
Don't get excited, the colors represents new watch bands.
So it's safe to assume your going to purchase one of every new Watch Band color with that silly comment.
I haven't written off bluetooth entirely. I am simply saying that it's not time for a full switch. I tried Beats and some other brand. According to the various comments I am not the only one describing this.
Now let's get to the particulars of your setup:
Moto Hint: $90 on Amazon
Jaybirds: $149 on Amazon
Apple Earpods: $19 on Amazon
Do you see the first problem? You spent $130 more than I did... just for removing a wire. Granted, you cycle so it's probably a good purchase for you, but in general... BT are still quite expensive. I can buy a pair of earbuds for $1.50 from my public library (ok, they DO suck. But in case of emergency, I can do that).
As for the battery... you get 7 hours of use? That's nothing. Most people just listen on the go, and want to listen on the go, just because of it. Or while on the job, in front of the computer. Now you are forcing everyone to recharge one more item.
The thing is... what you want to do is already there. You can already use BT earpods. By removing the 3.5mm you're creating no real advantage, no new function. You're just allowing a proprietary standard.
And please spare the "you guys like living in the past" rhetorical thingy. A person with all the
in the signatures as I am certainly doesn't live in the past. I have been in favor of removing floppy drive, cd-rom, dvd-drive, and Ethernet ports. The 3.5mm removal is completely different.
OMG I hope not another applewatch, recap of already announced features and a thinner iphone event...
I haven't written off bluetooth entirely. I am simply saying that it's not time for a full switch. I tried Beats and some other brand. According to the various comments I am not the only one describing this.
Now let's get to the particulars of your setup:
Moto Hint: $90 on Amazon
Jaybirds: $149 on Amazon
Apple Earpods: $19 on Amazon
Do you see the first problem? You spent $130 more than I did... just for removing a wire. Granted, you cycle so it's probably a good purchase for you, but in general... BT are still quite expensive. I can buy a pair of earbuds for $1.50 from my public library (ok, they DO suck. But in case of emergency, I can do that).
As for the battery... you get 7 hours of use? That's nothing. Most people just listen on the go, and want to listen on the go, just because of it. Or while on the job, in front of the computer. Now you are forcing everyone to recharge one more item.
The thing is... what you want to do is already there. You can already use BT earpods. By removing the 3.5mm you're creating no real advantage, no new function. You're just allowing a proprietary standard.
And please spare the "you guys like living in the past" rhetorical thingy. A person with all the
LOL - I never said I want to remove the 3.5!!! I mentioned it earlier - I'm simply trying to picture this from Apple's point of view. Playing devil's advocate, so to speak.
If you're comparing my bluetooth headphones to the included EarPods, then why even complain? It's quite likely that every new iPhone will still come with EarPods, just lightning instead of 3.5.
I think what Apple sees, and what I see from nearly every single person that's using headphones, is that they're all using the included EarPods. Let's be real. 99% of people won't care. They'll just use what's in the box. We're such a minority (other expensive 3.5mm based headphones or bluetooth headphones) that Apple probably doesn't care. The public in general will likely have been much more annoyed about the move from the 30-pin than losing the 3.5mm this year.
Wow next week couldn't come quick enough then everyone can stop guessing!
I haven't written off bluetooth entirely. I am simply saying that it's not time for a full switch. I tried Beats and some other brand. According to the various comments I am not the only one describing this.
Now let's get to the particulars of your setup:
Moto Hint: $90 on Amazon
Jaybirds: $149 on Amazon
Apple Earpods: $19 on Amazon
Do you see the first problem? You spent $130 more than I did... just for removing a wire. Granted, you cycle so it's probably a good purchase for you, but in general... BT are still quite expensive. I can buy a pair of earbuds for $1.50 from my public library (ok, they DO suck. But in case of emergency, I can do that).
As for the battery... you get 7 hours of use? That's nothing. Most people just listen on the go, and want to listen on the go, just because of it. Or while on the job, in front of the computer. Now you are forcing everyone to recharge one more item.
The thing is... what you want to do is already there. You can already use BT earpods. By removing the 3.5mm you're creating no real advantage, no new function. You're just allowing a proprietary standard.
And please spare the "you guys like living in the past" rhetorical thingy. A person with all the
Also, to clarify, the only headphones you use with the 3.5mm on your iPhone are the bundled ones?