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Apple iPhone Battery Lawsuit Dismissed
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We all know Apple is trying to cut back on packaging and you're asking them to use bigger font? How would they everything and keep the packaging looks pristine and neat?
ALL CAPS? DO YOU REALLY THINK IT'S FUN TO READ ALL CAPS?
Yeah they should definitely paste wallpaper that discloses everything. Provide magnifying glasses as well!
I don't want to.
To deviate a little more, that just happened here in New York two weeks ago.
http://gothamist.com/2008/09/13/judge_doesnt_allow_umbrella_lawsuit.php
I'll bet that most of those bridges without "beware of falling off, drowning may kill" signs have railings on the sides. And all those ladders are carefully designed to be as save as possible, for example with rubber feet so that the ladder doesn't slide away when you climb up. All these electricians put plastic material around wires, even though everyone knows that electricity is dangerous and you shouldn't touch any life wires.
And I bet that most people have at some time in their life spilt coffee over themselves without having to visit a hospital with third degree burns, because that coffee wasn't produced by morons who put their customers in danger to safe a few pennies.
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Thank for that post. You definitely get two thumbs up from me for explanation. Exactly my thoughts. This specific portion made me giggle immensely though. S-o...T-r-u-e!
LMAO!!!!!!
Thank for that post. You definitely get two thumbs up from me for explanation. Exactly my thoughts. This specific portion made me giggle immensely though. S-o...T-r-u-e!I'd be up for another laugh. So, you post a YouTube video of you drinking a coffee from Starbucks immediately when it is handed to you. No sipping, a regular sized gulp.
Even if true, this isn't relevant to the analogy. The point is, parts that are bound to wear out but aren't user-serviceable are common in other products. Apple's approach is hardly unique, and as I pointed out by way of the shaver analogy, not without risk to the manufacturer.
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Or...How about any of the bottled water companies. They don't have a warning on every bottle saying that a person can die if you consume too much too quickly. Sorry, couldn't help myself.
P.S. I'd never hurt Dairy Queen.
P.P.S. OK...I'm done now. I've put my $0.02 and had a good chuckle.
Here I come Dairy Queen! They should give you a much smaller spoon with a Blizzard™ than, since you can easily get a "brain freeze" with the current size.
Or...How about any of the bottled water companies. They don't have a warning on every bottle saying that a person can die if you consume too much too quickly. Sorry, couldn't help myself.P.S. I'd never hurt Dairy Queen.
P.P.S. OK...I'm done now. I've put my $0.02 and had a good chuckle.
Stupid Lawsuit, but a decent question. Should Apple have designed the iPhone with a removable battery?
Like a previous poster mentioned, most people will probably just use the battery that came with the phone until it dies - I would agree that it seems only a small percentage of people who purchase cell phones, usually grab a spare battery to go with them.
The issue for me, is what happens when it dies.
Any other phone, you trot down to the local dealership (any dealership, any where), get a battery & slap it in. iPhone? For a lot of folks, it goes something like this: Send phone to certified battery-replacement center, wait, get charged for both battery and replacement fee.
Bum a cell phone off your buddies while you await its return.
Meh.
I don't think it would have been THAT hard to have designed an owner-replaceable battery into the iPhones form factor, seriously.
But I suppose if it manages to hang in there for you on a daily basis, it doesn't really matter.
Like a previous poster mentioned, most people will probably just use the battery that came with the phone until it dies - I would agree that it seems only a small percentage of people who purchase cell phones, usually grab a spare battery to go with them.
The issue for me, is what happens when it dies.
Any other phone, you trot down to the local dealership (any dealership, any where), get a battery & slap it in. iPhone? For a lot of folks, it goes something like this: Send phone to certified battery-replacement center, wait, get charged for both battery and replacement fee.
Bum a cell phone off your buddies while you await its return.
Meh.
I don't think it would have been THAT hard to have designed an owner-replaceable battery into the iPhones form factor, seriously.
But I suppose if it manages to hang in there for you on a daily basis, it doesn't really matter.
Shills, shills, everywhere.
Often times these lawsuits are designed by competitors that wish to promote "negative press" about another vendor's product, instead of investing in their own products.
Here's how it works:
Don't be surprised if an Apple competitor is financially linked to this law suit. It would be great to have a journalist do some serious research into the plaintiff of such a ridiculous case to see the real players behind it.
Often times these lawsuits are designed by competitors that wish to promote "negative press" about another vendor's product, instead of investing in their own products.
Here's how it works:
- Your competitor has a product that's pretty damaging to your product line.
- You want to make some bad press about the competitor to reduce their sales and keep your own sales.
- Secretly hire a 3rd party.
- Have that 3rd party put together a lawsuit attacking the competitor for something related to "an unacceptable feature within their horrible product". Possibly try to make it a "class action" suit in order to garner even more press.
- Have other parties, bloggers, and whoever, report broadly on the lawsuit. Make sure that the press says that "product X has features that are so horrible that there are lawsuits about it".
- Hope the public reads about the lawsuit, and conclude that the competitor's product is faulty.
Don't be surprised if an Apple competitor is financially linked to this law suit. It would be great to have a journalist do some serious research into the plaintiff of such a ridiculous case to see the real players behind it.
As far as I know, the iPhone battery can be replaced at your local Apple Store, and as someone else posted earlier, they replacement fee is just a flat fee. And as far as the replacement site mentions, it's for OOW replacement.
http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/service/battery/
I knew a long time ago that they didn't have a case. It didn't even make sense. First of all, Apple could argue that EVERY electronic device on the market gets less battery life than advertised. Additionally, battery usage varies significantly depending on how the phone is used. The longest standby battery life I've ever had was 4.5 days. The longest usage I've had was just over 8 hours, and the shortest I've ever had was about 2 hours. If Apple paid me to stretch the margins of those numbers, I'm sure I could do it.
As far as battery replacement .. it's perfectly legal for a company to require you to buy their own battery. There are millions of products at stores today that require you to buy their own replacement parts or else you will 'void your warranty.'
As far as battery replacement .. it's perfectly legal for a company to require you to buy their own battery. There are millions of products at stores today that require you to buy their own replacement parts or else you will 'void your warranty.'
Spare battery? Not good enough.
I don't have a land line at home or work. I only have one phone, and I use it every day for both personal and critical business use.
Here's some advice for you: get a spare GSM phone. I've had it for many years as an emergency replacement in case I damage or destroy my current phone. If I go on a trip, I pack it in my luggage.
It's a hell of a lot better than a spare battery, it's easy to keep charged, and it protects me from many more incidents other than the rare "dead battery". Oh, and this spare handset cost me very little, much less than a replacement battery for any phone.
I had a spare battery for a while, but keeping it charged was a pain, and it didn't help me at all when I broke my phone on new years eve in 2003. I was without a phone for 2 days then. Bad. That's when I figured that a spare phone was the only way to go, at least for a serious mobile phone user like me.
I don't have a land line at home or work. I only have one phone, and I use it every day for both personal and critical business use.
Here's some advice for you: get a spare GSM phone. I've had it for many years as an emergency replacement in case I damage or destroy my current phone. If I go on a trip, I pack it in my luggage.
It's a hell of a lot better than a spare battery, it's easy to keep charged, and it protects me from many more incidents other than the rare "dead battery". Oh, and this spare handset cost me very little, much less than a replacement battery for any phone.
I had a spare battery for a while, but keeping it charged was a pain, and it didn't help me at all when I broke my phone on new years eve in 2003. I was without a phone for 2 days then. Bad. That's when I figured that a spare phone was the only way to go, at least for a serious mobile phone user like me.
How do you save money making coffee hotter?? Please share your wisdom with us.
When you buy a car, does the right pedal says: Caution, this makes the car going faster - or the door says : Don't close with your head inside. Labeling all the crap makes people ignorant and american judges/juries/laws subjects of jokes all over the world. You can take a lot of bull in some countries. I'm glad I live in Europe with less stupid laws, 2 year warranty at least and no Apple SLAs.
This post wasn't made to harm my fellow americans
Nope. It would be unreasonable for a court to mandate all batteries to be user-replaceable. They can, however, demand that the battery situation be made clearer.
Open/shut case. Nobody would have said Apple hid the fact that the battery wasn't replaceable. It said it on the box, all shops had demo units, all reviews mentioned it. The information was clear and obvious to any sensible potential buyer.
Someone purchasing a product but not wanting to take responsibility for doing the research and trying to hold someone else accountable for there inability to research the product before they purchased.
I wonder if someone will try and bring a lawsuit against apple for not including the "Copy and Paste" function.
I wonder if someone will try and bring a lawsuit against apple for not including the "Copy and Paste" function.
I wonder if someone will try and bring a lawsuit against apple for not including the "Copy and Paste" function.
Or because they can't run Windows Mobile. Since they run windows on macs...
Well, that could be the answer, but they don't make coffee batches. They have constant temperature recipients.
It's all really rediculous. Who doesn't read up about a product prior to purchasing it (impulse buyers), who deserve to get burned buying products before doing their research.
No in the US. It is not something I am familiar with. Do you have any case-law or precedence this happens?
Nice try, but that cannot happen. What would they counter sue for? Inconvenience? If that were the case everyone would be culpable. Come-on! Yes - stupid lawsuits happen but you must take the good w/ bad.
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Not even close - but nice try. Coffee is served HOT...it is produced by bringing water to NEAR a boil at around 180-190 degree for optimal extraction of the flavor without the nasties. McD's sold the coffee at CLOSE to the extraction temperature. So what? USE CAUTION! Cowboy coffee is made by dumping coffee ground into boiling water for 3-5 minutes and then dumping a cup of ice or cold water to 'shock' the grounds to the bottom. The coffee is still almost 200 degrees. It is then poured into a cup for consumption.
That case is used to argue both for and against.
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