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Please confirm for the others here whether you were under the original 1yr Apple US warranty, AppleCare 2yr, or some longer duration warranty available in the EU?
Assuming you mean your current phone is a max of 1400mah and assuming that phone is a 6s. Your original out of the box mah would be 1715, so that would put you in the mid to low 80 percentage of battery wear.
Meaning your battery health is between 80-85% of its original capacity. Again this is based on assumption that you have a 6s.
The apps on the phone don't really provide accurate information. Beyond that, all of that would depend on the model of your phone, and usually the apps will tell you what the actual design/max capacity is or should be basically.
You made it sound like Rene Ritchie is an anti-apple leader of some group.
First of all, I never heard of him.
Second of all, a quick look here: https://www.imore.com/author/Rene Ritchie suggests he is an Apple analyst who puts out articles around Apple products. And, that's pretty much all about him.
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He is also probably the biggest Apple fanboy on the planet. I still remember his article talking about symmetry on iPhone vs lack of it on Galaxy. Even Appe fans were blasting him on how that doesn’t prove Apple>Samsung which is what he was claiming. Funnily enough even after his barrage of articles Samsung never really fixed it and the iPhone X doesn’t have the symmetry of its predecessors. Didn’t hear a word from him since.
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This throttling is not even improving battery life Like its supposed so i don’t think they are throttling it to improve battery life. Its not like the 6s is getting an extraordinarily good battery life that it lasts 1 complete working day. Battery life issues and throttling together are planned obsolescence. Batteries with 90% wear should not have lost more than half an hour of battery life and despite being throttled to half speed they don’t last 1 whole day.
I go to bed everyday with 30% battery remaining on my iPhone X with zero throttling. Try achieving that on any iPhone below the iPhone X and 8 with moderate use and with that throttling enables.
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Rene is not a fan boy. On the subject of this thread he says Apple could do a better job of communicating the battery issue to users via some form of prompt when throttling first occurs (I disagree with him personally, I prefer Apple doesn't bamboozle users with technical information). But he also explains why Apple has made engineering choices to improve battery life for owners of older devices. I always enjoy his insights.
The iPhone 7 is by no means an old phone. Batteries don’t get wrecked to the point of throttling a phone to half performance in just a year. Mine is at 98% and yet there is a small amount of throttling. And there is no need to give out technical information. Just have a dialog pop up saying “Your phone May be running slower than usual because the battery may need to be replaced” That’s all it takes.
Apple has a similar notification in battery section of settings for a worne out battery.
That explains why you were refunded. It wont be so easy for a customer out of warranty.
https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/20/16800058/apple-iphone-slow-fix-battery-life-capacity
According to the verge 10.2.1 intro’d this throttling to 6s
But also according to them 7, throttled just starting with 11.2?
That recently
Software wise for the 7? Is that how it’s been discovered?
Am I to understand X with 11.1.2 will be free of throttling in theory?
According to the verge 10.2.1 intro’d this throttling to 6s
But also according to them 7, throttled just starting with 11.2?
That recently
Software wise for the 7? Is that how it’s been discovered?
Am I to understand X with 11.1.2 will be free of throttling in theory?
My guess is that this advanced power management is going to eventually find it's way into all iphones. The rational is easy, making a phone call on a slow phone is better than a dead phone.
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It's real easy to throw labels around. Yet there are people on this forum who complain about planned obsolescence, high price, no value, throttling, bash apple on everything and yet buy thousands of dollars of apple equipment. What label do we apply to those people?
The advance power management is keeping the phone alive for longer than it would been originally. Mark my words, the X and 8 will be subject to the same power management in one year. The code is already on the phones and just waiting to be activated.
The rational is easy for apple in short term.. but not the consumer when they upgrade their phone because the old one is rendered uselessly slow over time, and they learn later, by lack of transparency and forthcoming ness on apple’s part, that a $79 battery replacement could’ve saved them an upgrade they would’ve otherwise not pursued
There goes blind trust in Apple and a general sour taste
Great plan to avoid a recall or having to pay for their engineering faults
The CPU throttling exhibited here is while running heavier tasks.
On newer devices (A10 Fusion & A11 Bionic), making phone calls, sending messages, reading ebooks, etc. on the iPhone should already be delegated to the high efficiency/low power cores by default. Improved battery life due to the big.LITTLE like architecture is actually one of the reasons I upgraded to the iPhone 7. Mind, my launch iPhone 7 is currently at 97% capacity and shows no throttling. Granted, I'm still on iOS 10.3.3 although I expect benchmarks will probably be the same on iOS 11.
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The charts posted by the Geekbench developer seem to suggest it.
https://www.geekbench.com/blog/2017/12/iphone-performance-and-battery-age/
They replaced my 6s battery without any hassle at all.
I don’t have “blind trust” in Apple, but all of this (including the last several years of stuff reported by Macrumors)has done nothing to stop me from purchasing my next Apple product. Ymmv on what you believe.
It's one thing to accuse without proof; it's another if the accusation comes with proof, such as, I don't know, a benchmark or stats on how devices being affected by updates, perhaps?
On the other hand, your whole point of Apple not at fault here comes with zero supporting argument at all. All you are saying is unless Apple comes out and admit wrongdoing. Otherwise, it's not at fault.
That is blind loyalty.
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Just as you ask for proof from us, how do you know the so-called "Advanced Power Management" is put in place to keep phone alive for longer? We need proof here. Go dig up some proof for us, will ya?
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The only thing they(Apple) seem to be “at fault” for is keeping the phones going for as long as possible. But on the other hand labeling people where you don’t agree with their opinions is what?It's one thing to accuse without proof; it's another if the accusation comes with proof, such as, I don't know, a benchmark or stats on how devices being affected by updates, perhaps?
On the other hand, your whole point of Apple not at fault here comes with zero supporting argument at all. All you are saying is unless Apple comes out and admit wrongdoing. Otherwise, it's not at fault.
That is blind loyalty.
It’s my opinion; no proof needed.
The real diff is that our opinion is backed by proof (whether you agree or not), whereas your opinion is backed by complete trust to apple.
What i7guy calls power management I call planned obsolescence. Regardless it’s not going to happen on MY X or my iPad as they are staying on iOS 11 and 10.
What they are doing is irritating the users with a laggy phone causing him to upgrade the phone.
One sale more or less doesn’t matter to a behemoth like Apple. You are just a blip on Apple’s radar. Whether you choose to buy or not buy the product does not have any impact on Apple. And as has been told countless times planned obsolescence is not an Apple exclusive feature. It’s there in every industry and unavoidable.
So to summarise.
There are certain low quality iPhone batteries or there which wear out faster than normal. They take a year for the effect to kick in by which time the warranty ends and you are on your own. You have to pay Apple to get it replaced. Or you suffer a slower phone and worst of all it won’t even last 1 full day on the newer iOS version so the throttling doesn’t even achieve what it’s supposed to do except earn more money for Apple which is no doubt the underlying intention.
Also let me correct you here. All iPhone X and 8 are not going to throttle. Only some of em are and that depends on the luck of the draw as to which battery you get. If you get a bad one, suffer a significant slowdown and low battery life or pay to get it replaced.[/QUOTE]
Very happy to see that article from The Verge. I think the writer struck the right tone and hope other outlets will pick it up soon.