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That is why there is more to this than meets the eye. My 6s didn't throttle and yet I received a replacement battery.
That wear level was supposedly cut-off a while back.
If I had the choice between a dead phone or slower performance, if that is what my two choices are in the world...I opt for slower performance.
So you think apple won't do anything, but they could. I never stay on the shipped version. I'm too much of a beta junkie to do that.
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Seems like this thread and others like it already provided the "proof".
If I had the choice between 100% or throttled CPU at 80% battery health I'd choose 100%.
There's low power mode for those times I'm concerned about battery.
There's low power mode for those times I'm concerned about battery.
huh?
Asking specifically for a hard evidence to substantiate your argument, and this is what you come up with?
Not that it's weak, but if you re-read the first post, it actually proves against your argument.
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The various threads have some information, but beyond that, nobody really knows what is going on. Certain assumptions and opinions of assumptions can be made, but that is where it ends.
So since you provided no evidence, what you are really saying is that your opinion is baseless?
No an opinion is just that an opinion. I’m saying some of the “conclusions” are baseless though.
Apple addresses why people are saying their iPhones with older batteries are running ‘slower’
https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/20/a...-older-batteries-are-running-slower/?ncid=rss
So essentially they admitted it. So now are they going to stop denying people battery replacements if the device has a CPU being throttled even if it's not below 80% capacity?
https://9to5mac.com/2017/12/20/apple-statement-iphone-performance-battery-age-issues/
Sounds more like a virus, malware, or planned obsolescence to me
Also not sure how I feel about them forcing this "feature" onto all iPhones (already the 7 with 11.2, soon the 8 and X series next)... Wasn't this whole fiasco started simply because specifically the 6s had a bad batch of batteries? If so then why the **** would any other phones need it? I mean besides to slow down customers phones and make them feel like they need to upgrade again
So now we're calling it a "feature"? Really? Software that intentionally slows down your phone is now a feature?
Sounds more like a virus, malware, or planned obsolescence to me Also not sure how I feel about them forcing this "feature" onto all iPhones (already the 7 with 11.2, soon the 8 and X series next)... Wasn't this whole fiasco started simply because specifically the 6s had a bad batch of batteries? If so then why the **** would any other phones need it?
I mean besides to slow down customers phones and make them feel like they need to upgrade again
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Yeah, definitely want to have my phone keep running vs shutdown with a failing or worn battery. What I7guy didn't seem to get was that we wanted to be notified that our battery was bad enough to throttle the CPU, even if it wasn't bad enough to get Apple to replace it.
And if I'm not going to be near a charger for a couple of days, or I'm getting low on charge without easy access to a charger, I will pick low power mode to be conservative with my battery charge.
Without low power mode my iPhone X and 7+ will go over 48 hours if I don't touch them, except to answer calls with a dark screen or look at notifications that pop up on the lock screen. But if I'm going to bed in 2 hours when I'm at 20% charge, and I can charge it then, I want the phone to run full speed.
https://9to5mac.com/2017/12/20/apple-statement-iphone-performance-battery-age-issues/
So now we're calling it a "feature"? Really? Software that slows down your phone is now a feature?
Also not sure how I feel about them forcing this "feature" onto all iPhones (already the 7 with 11.2, soon the 8 and X series next)... Wasn't this whole fiasco started simply because specifically the 6s had a bad batch of batteries? If so then why the **** would any other phones need it?
maybe design issue with the faster and more memory phones (starting with 6s and 2 gig ram) needing a bigger battery. 6s does seem to be the more affected models.
My 3 year old air 2 ipad still clocks and benchmarks fine. No slowdowns.
Let's go over what we know:
1- Apple heavily throttles CPU (below half even) based on battery health
2- They do so when the battery still shows "healthy" status
3- They do so when the battery is not considered in need of replacement
4- They do so without telling anyone so people have no idea to suspect it when their phone gets slow
5- They throttle the device out of the specifications you purchased under
6- This throttling is slowing devices down considerably which most users would find dissatisfying
Now for the speculation/assumptions:
A- People will have no idea to suspect the battery is the source of their slowdowns, but assume it's iOS and their usual permanent updates that take more resources and are less optimized for older devices. Thus the only solution to them is to buy a new one
B- Apple knows this. The question is if it's used to promote the sales of new devices
C- Hardware and software for phones is plateauing. There's often very little reason for people to get a new phone. Why does it have to even be any faster at this point? Messages and the keyboard shouldn't be laggy. Yet people still expect them to get slow over time because that's how it's always been with computers. Apple could be capitalizing on this to promote sales.
https://9to5mac.com/2017/12/20/apple-statement-iphone-performance-battery-age-issues/
So now we're calling it a "feature"? Really? Software that intentionally slows down your phone is now a feature?
Also not sure how I feel about them forcing this "feature" onto all iPhones (already the 7 with 11.2, soon the 8 and X series next)... Wasn't this whole fiasco started simply because specifically the 6s had a bad batch of batteries? If so then why the **** would any other phones need it?
Indeed.
Some iPhone 7 users are already seeing decrease in CPU performance after 1 year of usage.
Which means, around this time next year, people with their $1000 iPhone X may face throttled performance?
Wow at Apple.
Wow so my expensive iPhone X could be throttled to half speed in a year if I update and I will have to pay to get it fixed?
Apple said nothing about free replacements there.
Apple said nothing about free replacements there.
How is the user supposed to know a slow phone is the result of a battery? He may just buy a new phone.
Apple said they are “extending this feature” to other models soon.
So translating the flowery language: X will get the throttle too with an update. Wooooo
Mark my words. The X gets this “feature” once the X Plus and X 2018 release
What’s funny is that throttling isn’t even resulting in good battery life. My iOS devices have lower battery life on iOS 11
So this thread concludes with admission by Apple and you've been on it for a couple weeks. Wonder if your detractors
have the class for an unambiguous apology.
You mean i7guy? Nah he has already said he is fine with Apple charging money for this and it’s my fault for abusing the battery. Apparently everyone buys AppleCare so everyone will get a free replacement.
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Of course it’s planned obsolescence. This is just a nice way to say it. This is the perfect example of a Trojan horse. Ship a nefarious feature under the guise of a useful update.https://9to5mac.com/2017/12/20/apple-statement-iphone-performance-battery-age-issues/
So now we're calling it a "feature"? Really? Software that intentionally slows down your phone is now a feature?
Also not sure how I feel about them forcing this "feature" onto all iPhones (already the 7 with 11.2, soon the 8 and X series next)... Wasn't this whole fiasco started simply because specifically the 6s had a bad batch of batteries? If so then why the **** would any other phones need it?
Even Forbes has an article now
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenkam...-to-half-speed-most-of-the-time/#4540896e6c5e
A Forbes reader forwarded me this message which was originally posted at www.macintouch.com.
Apple apparently made iOS 11 much more aggressive with throttling the CPU when battery has diminished. The threshold seems to be about 80 percent life capacity. My iPhone 6 Plus ran normally on iOS 10 but runs almost exactly half speed (according to Geekbench) on iOS 11. “Battery Life” app raw data shows my battery hovering right around 80 percent. Through repeated testing I’ve found when it tests at 81 and above, the CPU runs at (near) full speed. Below 80%, it runs half speed. Results are very consistent. I seldom run low on charge during the day, and I can always charge it.
Since battery life declines with age, the batteries in the iPhone 6 and 7, are already old enough that a "full" charge does not last very long. Now we learn that when the battery drops below 80% iOS 11 throttles the CPU to run at half speed. If you are using an iPhone 6 or 7 with the original battery, the phone is working at half speed most of the time.
Your phone would feel twice as fast if you could change the battery or revert back to iOS 10. But since it is not easy to do either of these things, many people will instead upgrade to an iPhone 8 or X.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenkam...-to-half-speed-most-of-the-time/#4540896e6c5e
A Forbes reader forwarded me this message which was originally posted at www.macintouch.com.
Apple apparently made iOS 11 much more aggressive with throttling the CPU when battery has diminished. The threshold seems to be about 80 percent life capacity. My iPhone 6 Plus ran normally on iOS 10 but runs almost exactly half speed (according to Geekbench) on iOS 11. “Battery Life” app raw data shows my battery hovering right around 80 percent. Through repeated testing I’ve found when it tests at 81 and above, the CPU runs at (near) full speed. Below 80%, it runs half speed. Results are very consistent. I seldom run low on charge during the day, and I can always charge it.
Since battery life declines with age, the batteries in the iPhone 6 and 7, are already old enough that a "full" charge does not last very long. Now we learn that when the battery drops below 80% iOS 11 throttles the CPU to run at half speed. If you are using an iPhone 6 or 7 with the original battery, the phone is working at half speed most of the time.
Your phone would feel twice as fast if you could change the battery or revert back to iOS 10. But since it is not easy to do either of these things, many people will instead upgrade to an iPhone 8 or X.
This is why I’m never updating :
SE 10.2
7p 10.1.1
And X 11.1.2
SE 10.2
7p 10.1.1
And X 11.1.2
Realistically it's actually "could be" rather than "is". And can apply to 6/6+/6s/6s+/SE as of iOS 10.2.1, and 7/7+ as of iOS 11.2.
Simply reverting to iOS 10 wouldn't really apply as these things weren't introduced with the release of iOS 11, and in the earlier versions that might not have these changes the affected devices would likely suffer from unexpected shutdowns.
Another article here... Finally it is getting attention. http://www.businessinsider.com/appl...y-apple-should-add-controls-2017-12?r=UK&IR=T