I wonder how Google Pixel handles this. Google has control over updates yet I never heard of throttling on year old Pixels.
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I wonder how Google Pixel handles this. Google has control over updates yet I never heard of throttling on year old Pixels.
This is underhand from Apple. If this has been introduced via an update to iOS11 then the release notes should mention it along with the other 'enhancements'. Simply because it wasn't mentioned tells me Apple didn't really want it to be common knowledge.
Apple should be building this in as an option toggle in the low power mode settings, and including a guidance alert advising you that the battery has degraded. As it stands now, you are not given any options or notice and your device is simply gimped without your permission. Due to the price increases I don't want my £1000 iPhone X altered in this way after just 1 year as I am stopping with the yearly upgrades.
Imagine if you will the next iPhone keynote: "Thanks Tim, and the new iPhone is 4 times FASTER than the previous model for a WHOLE YEAR!" *wild applause*
Apple should be building this in as an option toggle in the low power mode settings, and including a guidance alert advising you that the battery has degraded. As it stands now, you are not given any options or notice and your device is simply gimped without your permission. Due to the price increases I don't want my £1000 iPhone X altered in this way after just 1 year as I am stopping with the yearly upgrades.
Imagine if you will the next iPhone keynote: "Thanks Tim, and the new iPhone is 4 times FASTER than the previous model for a WHOLE YEAR!" *wild applause*
And people were making fun of Samsung where the CPU throttled only in extremely demanding workloads and bragging about that unthrottled A series bling. Guess what, a year later that A series chip will be inferior to Samsung.
My 6S has the problem with only 350 cycles on the battery. Apple's diagnostic reports it's at over 90% life while Coconut Battery varies between 75-80% capacity.
Completely agree. Just got an 8+ and loving its performance on 11.1.2 so I plan to keep it there.
Thankfully Apple, while admitting they have purposely slowed down the 6/6s/SE (10.2.1) and 7 (11.2), said that they haven’t brought this “feature” to the 8/X yet.
TVOS profile FTW!
I hope now that apple have been caught out and this is now all over the news - they stop this underhanded behaviour.
This news should also spark investigations into if other phone companies are doing the same. The more people know about this the better.
I really am appalled they did this - crippled the iphone 6, and planned to do the same with the 7, and you can bet they have the iphone 8 and the iphone X in their planned obsolescence schedule too.
Apple are spinning this as if it is some sort of "feature", do they really think people will fall for that line and accept owning a phone they have spent hundreds/thousand plus dollars on to be crippled without their permission?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42438745
This news should also spark investigations into if other phone companies are doing the same. The more people know about this the better.
I really am appalled they did this - crippled the iphone 6, and planned to do the same with the 7, and you can bet they have the iphone 8 and the iphone X in their planned obsolescence schedule too.
Apple are spinning this as if it is some sort of "feature", do they really think people will fall for that line and accept owning a phone they have spent hundreds/thousand plus dollars on to be crippled without their permission?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42438745
Hmmm, something seems fishy! Apple said they introduced this feature with the iPhone 6, but people where complainig about performance after a new iOS-version since the beginning of the iPhone. Then again, there are also always complains about degraded batterylife after every update.
Could it be that software update degrades battery condition first so the subsequent CPU slowdown is justified?
100% charged, or when the phone was new? Coconut Battery's life rating doesn't change much regardless of my phone's charge level.
When my battery level drops Coconut Battery lowers my battery health. It’s most accurate when your battery is fully charged.
Either way, the battery isn't working as it used to. On my roughly 45 minute commute, my 6S will lose something like 15-20% charge, while the 8 will use about 2-3% in that same time, doing the same things. When the 6S was newer, its consumption on my commute was not significantly worse than it is with the 8.
Haven't read through the comments on this so not sure this has been answered but is there any evidence that this improves battery life? I know a slower CPU consumes less battery, but I feel that the additional time to perform day to day tasks and everything that comes with that i.e. screen on time, processing data offsets that incremental extension of battery life from the CPU. Agreed it's anecdotal but people are saying it takes upwards of 5 seconds to launch an app when it should take 1 second, does the lower CPU compensate the 4 second difference in SOT?
I wonder if it would be possible to do a 'day in the life of' for a pre and post battery change iPhone 6; a series of normal actions a user would do in a day to see if Apple's claims of prolonging the battery are actually true
I wonder if it would be possible to do a 'day in the life of' for a pre and post battery change iPhone 6; a series of normal actions a user would do in a day to see if Apple's claims of prolonging the battery are actually true
News has also been reported in The Telegraph. The cat is out of the bag.
It was on my local news this morning CBS (NYC market).
I want to see Apple implement a switch, make this an option, not forced on us. And announce when batteries are below the standard they deemed to activate this (above the 80%).
I want to see Apple implement a switch, make this an option, not forced on us. And announce when batteries are below the standard they deemed to activate this (above the 80%).
It doesn't really improve battery life that much as Apple would have you believe. I once tried using 7 Plus in low power mode which throttled the CPU and it added a whopping 1-2 hours to usage.
In fairness, the high efficiency/low power cores on the iPhone 7 are probably the ones running majority of the time so the CPU should be in a low power state for the most part. Power efficiency is actually one of the reasons I got the 7. Best battery life I've had on an iPhone.
Interesting thing is A10 Fusion HE cores seem to deliver around the same single core performance as A8X while the A11 Bionic HE cores seem to perform comparable to A9.
It's not stopping Apple from throttling the CPU under load though. We have had plenty of users whose iPhone 7nhas throttled in iOS 11.
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You are also on iOS 10 where even my 7 Plus had awesome battery life. iOS 11 has destroyed mine. The 7 Plus lasts only 60% of what it used to iOS 10 which is why I got the X which lasts as long as my 7 Plus used to.
It's not really about improving the battery as much as it is to avoid battery instability that can cause sudden unexpected shutdowns.
My point was part of the reason low power mode likely doesn't help A10 Fusion and A11 Bionic much is because the CPU is already "throttled" during normal tasks.
Reckon that might be one of the things that need fixing if it's actually a widespread issue. Why the heck would iOS 11 be such a power hog compared to iOS 10?
Mind, the reason I don't update is because I dislike the new control center and there are no new features on iOS 11 that I feel is worth upgrading for.
Now even the BBC has picked up on it.
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42438745
Apple's iPhones slowed to tackle ageing batteries
Apple has confirmed the suspicions of many iPhone owners by revealing it does deliberately slow down some models of the iPhone as they age.
Many customers have long suspected that Apple slows down older iPhones to encourage people to upgrade.
The company has now said it does slow down some models as they age, but only because the phones' battery performance diminishes over time.
Apple said it wanted to "prolong the life" of customers' devices.
The practice was confirmed after a customer shared performance tests on Reddit, suggesting their iPhone 6S had slowed down considerably as it had aged but had suddenly sped up again after the battery had been replaced.
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42438745
Apple's iPhones slowed to tackle ageing batteries
Apple has confirmed the suspicions of many iPhone owners by revealing it does deliberately slow down some models of the iPhone as they age.
Many customers have long suspected that Apple slows down older iPhones to encourage people to upgrade.
The company has now said it does slow down some models as they age, but only because the phones' battery performance diminishes over time.
Apple said it wanted to "prolong the life" of customers' devices.
The practice was confirmed after a customer shared performance tests on Reddit, suggesting their iPhone 6S had slowed down considerably as it had aged but had suddenly sped up again after the battery had been replaced.
Please stop spreading misinformation. How many times should it be said iPhone 7 does not suffer from unexpected shutdowns? That was a defective batch of iPhone 6s which were causing the problems right after release and throttling was resorted to on 10.2.1.
It’s been a year since the 7 released and there have been zero issues of sudden shutdowns.
That is what was stated. You can feel that that is misinformation and make your opinion known, but don't be disingenuous and essentially call others liars because you disagree with the information that was provided.
I am thinking that a iPhone that is only a year old should not need Apple to throttle to help the battery. Maybe a 2 or 3 year old phone but not one just one year old.