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So if your battery is supposedly weak they throttle you. This by their definition of what weak is of course. So what if you meet this criteria and get throttled then plug in to a charger, doesn't this make your battery no longer weak? So the throttle should stop, but doesn't?
 
Does anyone know they if they do this to MacBooks?

I have a late 2013 rMBP and my fear is that the reason it feels slower now than when I first got it is bc of throttled CPU.

Like I said, don’t touch my CPU. Let my battery die. I’ll get it fixed.

Making my iPhone SLOW is NOT an acceptable solution to a wearing battery. Recommending a new battery is.
 
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So if your battery is supposedly weak they throttle you. This by their definition of what weak is of course. So what if you meet this criteria and get throttled then plug in to a charger, doesn't this make your battery no longer weak? So the throttle should stop, but doesn't?
It sounds like the process that determines whether or not to throttle processor speeds relies solely on battery health, not on percentage of charge or if the device is plugged in.
 
Does anyone know they if they do this to MacBooks?

I have a late 2013 rMBP and my fear is that the reason it feels slower now than when I first got it is bc of throttled CPU.

Like I said, don’t touch my CPU. Let my battery die. I’ll get it fixed.

Making my iPhone SLOW is NOT an acceptable solution to a wearing battery. Recommending a new battery is.
They don’t do that on Mac. Then again Mac isn’t a great seller to begin with so they likely don’t care about it enough to do something like this. Apple=iOS. Mac is just like what Windows Phone was to Microsoft.
 
So if your battery is supposedly weak they throttle you. This by their definition of what weak is of course. So what if you meet this criteria and get throttled then plug in to a charger, doesn't this make your battery no longer weak? So the throttle should stop, but doesn't?

Same question.

If plugged in is it still throttled?

Anyone know???

I feel like this is turning into a movement. People who are unhappy with this feature need to speak up. I don’t want my ~1000 dollar phone getting slow.
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They don’t do that on Mac. Then again Mac isn’t a great seller to begin with so they likely don’t care about it enough to do something like this. Apple=iOS. Mac is just like what Windows Phone was to Microsoft.

Ok good. My rMBP still feels slower than when I first got it but maybe that’s for other reasons I guess.

I’ll always have a doubt in the back of my mind after this though.

It’s about trust.
 
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It sounds like the process that determines whether or not to throttle processor speeds relies solely on battery health, not on percentage of charge or if the device is plugged in.
yeah probably the way it is, but shouldn't be if because when plugged in battery should be strong again on the output. Makes me think Apple's true underlying reason for this is cash grab even tho they deny it.
 
Does anyone know they if they do this to MacBooks?

I have a late 2013 rMBP and my fear is that the reason it feels slower now than when I first got it is bc of throttled CPU.

Like I said, don’t touch my CPU. Let my battery die. I’ll get it fixed.

Making my iPhone SLOW is NOT an acceptable solution to a wearing battery. Recommending a new battery is.

Nope. The only priviso is running a MacBook without a battery installed (or plausibly a faulty battery) will run the machine at reduced clock rate. Basis for this is that the MacBook can require more power than the AC adaptor will provide at which point it also pulls from the battery as well.

Couple of examples :

I used to take my 2011 15" to LAN gaming sessions. The battery would slowly drain when connected to the mains as it was using extra power with all cores and the dGPU getting heavily utilised.

My MBP 1,1 would only run a 1GHz with no battery installed instead of 1.83GHz.
 
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Let's all give our thanks to the wonderful software engineers at Apple who released iOS11 upon us. If iOS 11 hadn't been so ridiculously bad performance wise, nobody would've went looking for every which possible way to test their phones and we may never find out about this magical "feature".

Truly the heroes we need!
 
Let's all give our thanks to the wonderful software engineers at Apple who released iOS11 upon us. If iOS 11 hadn't been so ridiculously bad performance wise, nobody would've went looking for every which possible way to test their phones and we may never find out about this magical "feature".

Truly the heroes we need!
Its truly such a bad release they weren't able to cover up as good as they used to.
 
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Its truly such a bad release they weren't able to cover up as good as they used to.

Up to the 2016 MBP keyboard fiasco. I used to be the biggest Apple fanboy and defender, and as a programmer who's constantly learning and trying to write more efficient code, I always thought the conspiracy theories about Apple purposely slowing down older devices were ridiculous. It turns out I was just lacking in imagination!
 
So now everytime we experience slow speeds for any reason we'll be suspecting throttling. So pay in excess of a grand for a phone and guaranteed throttle down the road at some point.
Side remark: Sometimes I accidently let my macbook pro shut off due to low battery and it still works great, no slowdowns. My iphone is like a smaller MB with a 6 year old battery, why is this aspect different?
 
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So now everytime we experience slow speeds for any reason we'll be suspecting throttling. So pay in excess of a grand for a phone and guaranteed throttle down the road at some point.
Side remark: Sometimes I accidently let my macbook pro shut off due to low battery and it still works great, no slowdowns. My iphone is like a smaller MB with a 6 year old battery, why is this aspect different?

I highly suspect it's a management decision for dealing with iphone battery issues (i.e. avoiding needing to replace every single defective battery out there). Note this "feature" was only implemented last year, after reports of phones shutting down at 30%. Mac haven't experienced this problem yet.

No self-respecting software engineer will actually go out their way to make their program slower, quite the other way around. Feature-bloat is a real issue and some older hardware may not meet higher demands, but it's never out of malice.
 
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Just make them slightly bigger and fit them with a decent sized battery in the first place. First thing 90% of customers do is stick them in a case which adds a couple of mm minimum! As long as it's not thicker than an iPhone 4 it's golden.
 
Nope. The only priviso is running a MacBook without a battery installed (or plausibly a faulty battery) will run the machine at reduced clock rate. Basis for this is that the MacBook can require more power than the AC adaptor will provide at which point it also pulls from the battery as well.

Couple of examples :

I used to take my 2011 15" to LAN gaming sessions. The battery would slowly drain when connected to the mains as it was using extra power with all cores and the dGPU getting heavily utilised.

My MBP 1,1 would only run a 1GHz with no battery installed instead of 1.83GHz.

Wait a minute. So my MacBook might be running slower than it should???

How do I check for this?

I will do anything it takes to make sure my rMBP is running as fast as it can.
 
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I highly suspect it's a management decision for dealing with iphone battery issues (i.e. avoiding needing to replace every single defective battery out there). Note this "feature" was only implemented last year, after reports of phones shutting down at 30%. Mac haven't experienced this problem yet.

No self-respecting software engineer will actually go out their way to make their program slower, quite the other way around. Feature-bloat is a real issue and some older hardware may not meet higher demands, but it's never out of malice.
Out of curiosity have you ever been involved in operating system programming; especially at the hardware level. Have you tried your hand at power management to see how easy or difficult it is before making a general statement such as this.
 
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