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No, they really do lose power over time for various reasons. Efficiency also drops along with this. And manufactures do throttle back HP. Modern engines actually shut off cylinders. I’m not saying this is the same as what Apple did. But the original claim I replied to said simply engines don’t lose HP over time and that isn’t true.

1. https://jalopnik.com/heres-how-engines-lose-power-over-time-1819852080 (1 of 28M+ posts)
2. As engines lose power, their efficiency also goes down (see #1)
3. Current Chevrolet Corvette has Active Fuel Management, cuts off cylinders http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com...e/144203-2017-corvette-afm-valve-changes.html
4. Manufacturers do throttle back HP, 2013 Porsche Boxster S has 315 HP, the 2013 Porsche 911 with the exact SAME engine has 350 HP (yes I own the 2013 Boxster S)

The fact I even have to post proof for you tells me you aren't a "car guy", but there are 4 "proofs".
 
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They did because nothing in their statement says only some iPhones are affected. Statements of fact that iPhones will throttle means all iPhones will throttle.
Apple never said all iPhones will be throttled. All that Apple's statement said was that the ability of the OS to throttle your phone will be applied to other iPhones in the future:

"Last year we released a feature for iPhone 6, iPhone 6s and iPhone SE to smooth out the instantaneous peaks only when needed to prevent the device from unexpectedly shutting down during these conditions. We've now extended that feature to iPhone 7 with iOS 11.2, and plan to add support for other products in the future."

You can be sure Apple's legal department went over this with a fine-tooth comb. They've only admitted to a feature that could be used only as needed during instantaneous peaks. And that this feature is planned to be implemented in other products later. So it does not say exactly under what conditions if or when this feature will be turned on, nor does it say which products will ultimately be afflicted.

We have reports on this forum and on Reddit that (1) this feature has already been turned on for some iPhone 7 models with much more than 80% battery life remaining. And that (2) some Apple stores (and even corporate itself, when mailed in) have refused battery replacements for some of these phones with more than 80% life remaining.

We can all argue as to the desirability of throttling to preclude shutdowns. But if verified, items (1) and (2) above are indefensible and are what ultimately will bring legal hassles to Apple once suits are filed using (1) or (2) as justification. The throttling itself will sully Apple in the public's eye, and be where Apple can't win either way. Apple's stealthy implementation and failure to remedy (item (2) above) is what will cost them money.
 
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if Apple didn’t make iPhones slow

They don't make iPhones slow. They have some the fastest performing smart phones on the market with the A-series chips. Let's not blow this out of proportion just because of what you're reading from some users on a tech forum. There is a world outside MacRumors and those will never notice these types of tendencies at all.
 
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May have bought my last iPhone. Cant accept this.

So what is fast processors worth when they cant be used to their maximum after short time.

This is principal. Of course i will never pay full price for a fast crippled top model.

Android for 1/3 of the price here I guess I come.
Good riddance.
 
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not a fan of timmy and gang, but why would apple want to hide this in the first place..sounds like a positive thing to eke out the last bit of life from the phone
 
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It’s unrelated. And this is exactly why Apple and other companies do not try to explain tech to the general public. This a fix for degrading batteries that cannot supply enough charge to the processor to prevent random shutdowns. A gradual slowdown of experience is preferable to random shutdowns, and you would all be bitching about random shutdowns instead if Apple didn’t implement this change.
Please tell me you don't actually believe this is unrelated. It's obviously related and the precise reason they did what they did. I would rather have the phone shut down so I can know to get the battery fixed than live with a slow device for a year.
 
Most people who give up a BMW for a Kia don't brag about it.

I don't think 6s to s8 is necessarily comparable to that.

s8 is nice hardware

I just personally don't care for android more than I don't care for where iOS is headed,

but with a little help from jailbreka friends, iOS is king by a long shot.
 
Nothing in their statement says that all devices are or will actually be throttled. Reality of many devices to this day not being affected while some have been is also consistent with that.

They state that all lithium ion batteries lose some of their capacity to provide charge which results in unexpected shutdown as a result of which they rolled out an update which throttled the phone. This is a general statement.

The reason all iPhones haven’t been affected so far is because all iPhones haven’t reached the threshold of battery wear necessary to trigger it.
 
Quite false, since I have an iPhone 5s and 6s that seem to run just as fast as when new, even though they have been updated to iOS 11.2.1.
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That's a very good question.
  1. Have you rebooted your iPhone recently?
  2. How full is your storage? More than 80%? Flash memory wear leveling can steal most of your memory cycles.
  3. Have you checked in Settings under Battery Usage to see what's using your battery? Whatever is using up your battery could also be stealing CPU cycles.
  4. You might also check Cellular Data usage, including under Systems Services. Whatever is downloading data could also be stealing CPU or memory cycles.
  5. Do you have a huge amount of iCloud or iMessage data? Up and downloading that data can steal a bunch of CPU and memory cycles.
That's just for starters. Apple has diagnostics that can search for even more potential issues.

Did you run a Geekbench to check?


Also the throttle can’t be fixed without a new battery
 
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They state that all lithium ion batteries lose some of their capacity to provide charge which results in unexpected shutdown as a result of which they rolled out an update which throttled the phone. This is a general statement.

The reason all iPhones haven’t been affected so far is because all iPhones haven’t reached the threshold of battery wear necessary to trigger it.
All batteries lose capacity over time, it doesn't mean that all will be degraded in a way where throttling will need to apply or unexpected shutdowns would exist. Nothing in what was said says something otherwise.
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How is your battery 2 years old but still has 82 cycles? 82 cycles means you charged the phone to 100% only 82 times in 520 days.
That's not what a charging cycle means.
 
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How is your battery 2 years old but still has 82 cycles? 82 cycles means you charged the phone to 100% only 82 times in 520 days.

82 times from 0%, or 164 times from 50%, or around 320 time from 75%, 600-700 times from 85%, etc. so it depends on how far you let it run down before leaving on a charger.

Did you run a Geekbench to check?
I’ve yet to see good evidence that the numbers this app reports are accurate or relevant.
Also the throttle can’t be fixed without a new battery
I have yet to see good evidence that the apparent throttling is solely due to the battery’s age.
 
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They don't make iPhones slow. They have some the fastest performing smart phones on the market with the A-series chips. Let's not blow this out of proportion just because of what you're reading from some users on a tech forum. There is a world outside MacRumors and those will never notice these types of tendencies at all.

For a year from purchase date* (are they faster). Dont try to minimise what a big problem this is. I an a hardcore fan, but will never buy an iPhone top model again.
 
I don't need their protection just got an S8. After 10 years, they will not see my buck anymore.
Good. It's your money. Not sure what's the point of this thread then.
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I would consider the Note 8 and S8+ BMW status, they are that good.
The Note 8 and S8+ are not BMW status. They are more like those Leica cameras that are actually rebadged Panasonic cameras sold at higher prices for the Leica brand. I mean in the end, a Samsung is still an Android phone, and runs the same Android apps as other Android phones. It just looks nicer and cost more.
 
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