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Good. It's your money. Not sure what's the point of this thread then.
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The Note 8 and S8+ are not BMW status. They are more like those Leica cameras that are actually rebadged Panasonic cameras sold at higher prices for the Leica brand. I mean in the end, a Samsung is still an Android phone, and runs the same Android apps as other Android phones. It just looks nicer and cost more.
Think what you want but plenty of sites have named the Note 8 the phone of the year.
 
Think what you want but plenty of sites have named the Note 8 the phone of the year.
Leica rebadged Panasonic cameras, doesn't stop photographers to still consider Leica as a top brand, no?
Same thing with Hasselblad, they rebadged Sony cameras. The brand remains top.
Your point? My statement and your statement have no contradiction.
 
Leica rebadged Panasonic cameras, doesn't stop photographers to still consider Leica as a top brand, no?
Same thing with Hasselblad, they rebadged Sony cameras. The brand remains top.
Your point? My statement and your statement have no contradiction.
And it is simply your opinion as my post was my opinion. We all have them. I stand by my post.
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Apple isn't BMW, buddy.

People who work in McDonald's with minimum wage jobs have iPhones.
True. I was a pizza delivery driver when I got my first iPhone.
 
Great so my iPhone X will be slower than all the android phones next year when the battery goes to 85%. I am waiting to see if Apple changes this decision or at least makes it an option. One year for a phone to become laggy or considerably slower is worthless for me. I might as well get a cheaper Android phone at that point.
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Most people who give up a BMW for a Kia don't brag about it.

LOL. iPhone BMW status? What world do you live in? Everyone has an iPhone.

BMW and Kia have such a big price difference it makes no sense to compare them. Not that a BMW is significantly better. s8 vs iPhone is like Toyota Camry vs Honda Accord.
 
LOL @ anyone referring Android or Samsung as a Kia. I've been using iPhone before many of you here. When it wasn't mainstream yet.

Apple is slowing your "BMWs" driven by several minimum wage workers into a Kia. It is not BMW status either. The iPhones are more like Honda Accords. Common commuter cars.
 
One year for a phone to become laggy or considerably slower is worthless for me. I might as well get a cheaper Android phone at that point.
True. Although my 6S still performs great, I do agree I wouldn't want to buy an expensive phone that becomes laggy in a year (try asking Samsung users :D)
 
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You can't compare Samsung to Leica either. Samsung manufactures their own components including DESIGNING their own chips that Apple does.

One is a fraud that suckered millions into some illusionary status quo and speeded up the planned obsolescence. The other is a real OEM that is upfront about things.
 
Apple doesn't make it easy, nor do they promote it.

And they won't make it easy to replace at one of their stores or by sending it in.

Mine was at 70% capacity and they said it was fine even though it had random severe drainage problems. I saw it go from 70% to 17% in one night at work and it never left my pocket the entire night. I blamed it on a weak AT&T signal in my area since AT&T sucks here but I later realized it was the battery.
 
82 times from 0%, or 164 times from 50%, or around 320 time from 75%, 600-700 times from 85%, etc. so it depends on how far you let it run down before leaving on a charger.


I’ve yet to see good evidence that the numbers this app reports are accurate or relevant.

I have yet to see good evidence that the apparent throttling is solely due to the battery’s age.

You have yet to see good evidence that the geekbench app reports accurate or relevant numbers yet Apple has released a press statement due to geekbench scores bringing this throttling practice to light?
 
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try to restore iphone with older version of ios if you have upgraded to newer version of ios like 11. or just do restore with new ios verson and see whether iphone slow down or not. as battery become old it drain faster compare to new one. before restoring transfer all your iphone music , video photos to computer or other iphone as restore will delete all your iphone data.
 
When Note7 caught fires, people made a big deal about it even though Samsung was honest about it. Probably wasn't anymore common as the throttling with iPhones.

Samsung could have easily just NOT recall and sweep it under the rug. Paid off the media to keep hush about it. Many of the stories reported early on were fake including the burning jeep. The first recall is what sparked the controversy. How common was it if you recall? The airliner in Kentucky was the final nail in the coffin.

One company was at least honest about it and didn't want to cover it up. The other did the opposite, was deliberate, and decides to call it a feature. If Apple wants to reason with that, why not do it to their MacBooks or this with iPhones way, way back in the day? Why start it just last year and not tell anyone until they got caught doing it?
 
For all those saying Apple will lie to you about the status of your battery.

If you own an affected device then walk into any Apple store and ask them to test the battery in front of you.

Just as they do with MacBooks etc it’s quite clear to see if the battery is in a poor state of health. It’s coded Red, Yellow and Green,

Red means faulty/degraded replace FoC.

Yellow means Faulty/degrading out of warranty replace for a fee.

Green means it’s ok.

If they tell you they can’t do the test then they are lying as I had one done on my MacBook Pro and my 6 Plus a while ago. Both tests took about 2 mins each and resulted in my MacBook battery being replaced (69% health after 186 charges according to coconut and dropped straight into red for the Apple test) and my 6 Plus reporting fine (93% health after 227 charges according to coconut and finishing green in the Apple test)
 
try to restore iphone with older version of ios if you have upgraded to newer version of ios like 11. or just do restore with new ios verson and see whether iphone slow down or not. as battery become old it drain faster compare to new one. before restoring transfer all your iphone music , video photos to computer or other iphone as restore will delete all your iphone data.
You can’t downgrade anymore. To lower iOS firmware. Unless I assume you have to jailbreak your phone.
 
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Apple isn't BMW, buddy.

People who work in McDonald's with minimum wage jobs have iPhones.

....because for the last 10 years wireless carriers have been giving iPhones away for free with a 2 year contract. Not the case anymore. iPhone's cost real money now.

Not going to see a $1250 iPhone X in the pocket of a budget consumer. That will be Android's role from here in, the free smartphone for the starving artists and students living on generic mac 'n cheese.
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LOL. iPhone BMW status? What world do you live in? Everyone has an iPhone.

I know, I have 7 of them. My 10 year old daughter has an iPhone.

But that's because they were $0 for a decade. Not so anymore. iPhone X is $1250. Real money.
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LOL @ anyone referring Android or Samsung as a Kia.

Apple is slowing your "BMWs" driven by several minimum wage workers into a Kia. It is not BMW status either. The iPhones are more like Honda Accords. Common commuter cars.

When you see your McDonald's french fry slinger with a $799 iPhone 8 or a $1250 iPhone X, snap a photo with your cheap Android and post it up. They'll be affordable on Craigslist in, what, 5 years.
 
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Just run Geekbench on my 12 months old iPhone 6S (15% battery wear) and surprise, the results are already cut in half. This is ridiculous.

We have a Great Option Buy a new IPhone X for just $1,000

What we know so far the facts.

#1. Apple knows about this and has for many years.
#2. Apple deliberately slows down phones performance to prolong battery life.
#3. The do not inform customers of this on purpose. Where it should be a covered warranty repair if they are selling low quality batteries that degrade too quickly.
#4. They can easily reverse the Slow down, But have decided not to either because that would make them look worse and liable since they will likely claim this is how all phones have performed and are intended to work.

IMO, Apple will lose all court cases, and All Customers with Affected devices aka iPhone 6s Plus will be entitled to a Free battery replacement. As a court settlement.
Imagine if you bought a new car with 200HP and after a year or so instead of getting 20mpg you only got 10mpg but instead the car was smart enough, and Cuts its Horsepower by 50% so now you still get 20mpg but only have 100HP.
 
How is your battery 2 years old but still has 82 cycles? 82 cycles means you charged the phone to 100% only 82 times in 520 days.
Good question? Just telling you what Coconut battery reported. The 6S did have a period where it was not in use while I used my SE. Couldn't tell you how long so that would account for the lack of cycles.
 
You have yet to see good evidence that the geekbench app reports accurate or relevant numbers yet Apple has released a press statement due to geekbench scores bringing this throttling practice to light?

Hope this matters. But I ran GeekBanch on my New IPad Pro 9.7 And 3DMark April 14, 2016
And took Screen Shots.
Today I re-ran the Same BenchMarks And Recieved Slightly Better Scores.
So either Apple is Not Throttling or Slowing Down ipads or the batteries in newer iPads are of better quality and Do Not wear down as fast as Cellphone batteries which are all Lithiuon Ion But That can be dependent on the batch of Lithion Ion gel used on a particular day. Or the conditions of use.
 
When Note7 caught fires, people made a big deal about it even though Samsung was honest about it. Probably wasn't anymore common as the throttling with iPhones.

Samsung could have easily just NOT recall and sweep it under the rug. Paid off the media to keep hush about it. Many of the stories reported early on were fake including the burning jeep. The first recall is what sparked the controversy. How common was it if you recall? The airliner in Kentucky was the final nail in the coffin.

One company was at least honest about it and didn't want to cover it up. The other did the opposite, was deliberate, and decides to call it a feature. If Apple wants to reason with that, why not do it to their MacBooks or this with iPhones way, way back in the day? Why start it just last year and not tell anyone until they got caught doing it?
And if you recall Note 7s that were NOT returned got an Over The Air Update whether you wanted the Update or not it went through and Note 7s would only charge to 50% Capacity no matter what.

I for One Loved the Note 7 drama, mine didn’t explode but Expanded. A Few Pictures To Samsung Corporate And a full Refund was issued. Along with a Free IPhone 7 Plus from Sprint as an apology.
So $800 cash in the bank and a Free IPhone 7 Plus.
 
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For all those saying Apple will lie to you about the status of your battery.

If you own an affected device then walk into any Apple store and ask them to test the battery in front of you.

Just as they do with MacBooks etc it’s quite clear to see if the battery is in a poor state of health. It’s coded Red, Yellow and Green,

Red means faulty/degraded replace FoC.

Yellow means Faulty/degrading out of warranty replace for a fee.

Green means it’s ok.

If they tell you they can’t do the test then they are lying as I had one done on my MacBook Pro and my 6 Plus a while ago. Both tests took about 2 mins each and resulted in my MacBook battery being replaced (69% health after 186 charges according to coconut and dropped straight into red for the Apple test) and my 6 Plus reporting fine (93% health after 227 charges according to coconut and finishing green in the Apple test)

The problem is that the threshold for what Apple says is a bad battery and when the throttling begins is not the same. People have reported that they had their battery checked and Apple said it was fine yet the phone was still throttled.

The thing is, no other manufacturer of smartphones has ever had to implement a throttle to keep phones from suddenly shutting down due to battery voltage. Three and four year old phones running at the same speed as new without shutting down even though the battery is degraded to the point that it will only hold a charge for 4 or 5 hours. So what is the design flaw in Apple phones or batteries that is causing them to shut down.
 
Craziest part of this is dropping 1k on an iPhone X gets you what .. 365 days at full performance? It's like you're renting time at full performance from Apple. In year 2, to continue at full performance you need to spend money on a battery upgrade to tell the software to give you full speed again. :apple:
 
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