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is simply just untrue they can if they want and can’t just sweep the issue under the carpet
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Any iPhone over 24 months old is out of warranty and anyone running iOS11 hit the AGREE button to this in the Terms and Conditions:
7.4 APPLE DOES NOT WARRANT AGAINST INTERFERENCE WITH YOUR ENJOYMENT OF THE iOS SOFTWARE AND SERVICES, THAT THE FUNCTIONS CONTAINED IN, OR SERVICES PERFORMED OR PROVIDED BY, THE iOS SOFTWARE WILL MEET YOUR REQUIREMENTS, THAT THE OPERATION OF THE iOS SOFTWARE AND SERVICES WILL BE UNINTERRUPTED OR ERROR-FREE, THAT ANY SERVICE WILL CONTINUE TO BE MADE AVAILABLE, THAT DEFECTS IN THE iOS SOFTWARE OR SERVICES WILL BE CORRECTED, OR THAT THE iOS SOFTWARE WILL BE COMPATIBLE OR WORK WITH ANY THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE, APPLICATIONS OR THIRD PARTY SERVICES. INSTALLATION OF THIS iOS SOFTWARE MAY AFFECT THE AVAILABILITY AND USABILITY OF THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE, APPLICATIONS OR THIRD PARTY SERVICES, AS WELL AS APPLE PRODUCTS AND SERVICES.
Not only is there no issue, there is no carpet either. Some of you aren't used to taking 'no' for an answer. Get used to it.
I honestly hope you have a vested interest in Apple financially.
No. I don’t.
I just don’t like to see good companies with good employees and good families taken to the woodshed like this over a phony scandal that is only affecting people who have used, old hardware.
They tried to preempt a dangerous shutdown situation with a free update and just like the phony death grip leading to the phony Antennagate we have people using a processor speed app as phony evidence of a phony slowdown.
They gave up $50 and an apology. Time to show some gratitude.
How about allowing me a downgrade and not forcefully auto downloading the update and auto installing it on my device. On my iPad Pro 2017, it tried to auto download and install the update when in idle multiple times before I installed a tvOS beta profile to get rid of it.
They were caught doing planned obsolescence on their devices and I bet those batteries don't cost more than $10 to Apple.
They were using substandard batteries on their phones and it was too late in manufacturing by the time they found out about it. Instead of incurring the huge cost to initiate a recall they applied a sloppy bandaid via a software update with a bonus being a potential sale thanks to he slower phone. An analyst estimated 16 million reduced sales thanks to this which is substantial.
Do the right thing Apple and either use superior hardware in your phone or outright discontinue the phone after 2 years like on Android instead of crappy support like tHis. Better no support than a crappy one. I have no issues with 2 year update support as long as my device stays a fast and has no battery drain.
In any case I bet Apple quietly fixes this in the 2018 iPhone batteries. I can bet a month's salary on it.
Yes there is. After the update auto downloads, the message saying iOS 11 will start installing in 10 seconds pops up. If you dismiss it, you unknowingly allow it to auto install the update between 12am-4am.
A message comes up that an installation will automatically start in 10 seconds after an installer is automatically downloaded at some point? That's not how it works when auto download is involved.
Given that often enough the auto download happens at night when people are charging and are on their home WiFi networks, if auto-install happened right away with a 10 second warning it would seem that many would wake up with a new iOS version installed on their device. Can you imagine the number of threads (not even just posts) about that kind of thing if that's how it was actually working?
Why can't they make the "old" features work just as well as they did before, and only the new features run slower? Why does mail, camera, or safari have to run slower on the older phone with the new iOS than it did with the previous version?
Not sure, but things like the new Control Center, the long-press app icon shortcuts, Siri enhancements, font sizes, drag and drop, and other changes that affect the substructure of the OS itself and not just independent apps and features must be in play.
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That’s inaccurate. And while the nag screens are annoying if you hit the wrong button that’s on you, not Apple.
Seems like Safari on my 5s runs better and faster on iOS 11 than than iOS 7-10.
My problem is more in the launch times - see my previous posts showing the launch times with built-in apps starting from all apps closed, then going back around and re-opening a second time without having closed any, and finally then doing processor intensive tasks and going back around and re-opening.
Those load times are not normal. Under iOS 10 those apps almost all took 1 second to load, only a few took 2-3, and it was a rare app took 4 seconds to load. The UI lag is impressive with iOS 11 on my 6, with a new battery and normal Geekbench scores.
On my iPhone 6 128GB I must leave the 15-20 most used apps loaded all the time, and not run any processor intensive apps that would clear old apps out of RAM, in order to keep most re-launch times at no more than 2-3x longer than normal.
To save myself the trouble I only use it as a 128GB iPod touch now, I put the SIM in a new iPhone X, and let the 6 only sync my iCloud data when I'm parked at home and connected to WiFi in case I need it in emergency. It's useless as every-day-phone or as a grab-and-go camera, as well as any other tasks that require switching back and forth between apps to cut and copy data for example.
And I don't like seeing a company I trust and admire screw over its customers like this.
You really have no idea what's going on. You keep harping on the solution which many people, including myself have said is sound but that apple purposely with held the critical point that a battery upgrade would solve the issue over an upgrade. At this point, you are simply trolling these forums with nonsense and I am done with you.
LOL
After the download is done, the installer doesn’t pop up until after a few days.
When you dismiss the update it asks to enter a passcode to auto install the update between 12am to 4am. So the pop up is automatic but the install at night is forced on us.
Because everyone on this forum is an update freak and updates the instant something is available. The auto install does in fact happen. I know people who don’t even know where the update setting is located but were running iOS 11 a month after release.
One way to avoid the auto-installer is to go to Settings > General > Storage & iCloud Usage > Manage Storage then delete the iOS 11 package that is pre-downloaded when your device is on wifi.
Funny side note: Apple dropped support for the Apple Support app pre-iOS 11 as to make it slightly more difficult to book a genius appointment for a battery replacement.
Funny side note: Apple dropped support for the Apple Support app pre-iOS 11 as to make it slightly more difficult to book a genius appointment for a battery replacement.
Fingers crossed - so far it hasn't redownloaded yet.At least until the system downloads the firmware update again.
I'm sure it will when 11.2.5 is out, though.
And when it does there's no 10 second countdown for it to install. And there are options to dismiss it without entering the passcode and scheduling the update, so nothing if forced. So, in fact, there is no auto-install (as in an automatic installation without user interaction).
That screen is tricky though. I'm sure there are those who've managed to install updates by accident thinking it was just asking for the PIN to unlock the device.
Apple has made iOS updates a relatively passive thing. That's understandable for security and less fragmentation. If updates required active user thought, then a lot fewer people would do it.
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Certainly possible. That doesn't change the facts, which are not as those that are being presented by some who are claiming them to be factual (in more places and in relation to more things that just here and this).
iOS updates are like a virus now everyone trying to avoid it.....
My daughter is forcing me to update her iPhone 6 with new battery from 10.3.3 to iOS 11.2.2 and I'm getting my wallet ready for her new iPhone 7/8/X when this update screws the pooch. It will be her early half-birthday present.
Praying it goes well. Her old iPhone 5s with 10.3.3 still has all of her data on it, so I could always move the SIM card to her old phone if the update renders this one useless, if needed.
Praying it goes well. Her old iPhone 5s with 10.3.3 still has all of her data on it, so I could always move the SIM card to her old phone if the update renders this one useless, if needed.
So constantly having to dismiss reminders is fine, but if you make a mistake by clicking, it's the user's fault?
I don't recall there being a cancel button on the enter passcode screen.
It's as much of an auto install as those adware/toolbars that are bundled with installers with the install option checked which you carefully need to deselect at every step.
Basically the default option if you just do what's presented to you on the screen is an auto install unless you carefully manage to avoid it instead of asking the user straight up if he wants to install the update or not.
Basically the facts are not as those that were mentioned and claimed to be factual and we are down the path of the usual revisionism and deflections to try to move away from the misrepresentation of facts.