There's a "Remind me Later" button at the bottom as I recall.
Yes, Apple wants you to update. This is normal. We aren't in the Windows XP era any more.
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There's a "Remind me Later" button at the bottom as I recall.
Yes, Apple wants you to update. This is normal. We aren't in the Windows XP era any more.
It's essentially an automated process. You need to try hard to not get it to install. What's going to happen in case of an average user is he presses the dismiss button and enters the passcode. Wen you have people not knowing a thing about iOS versions running iOS 11 a month after launch that says it all.
Actually iOS is the only operating system where the system forces the update on you essentially. IF you check macOS, Windows or Android, you are given an explicit choice whether to install the update or not or disable it forever.
And with their latest coverup regarding the throttling these updates are like Trojan horses for older phones. You never know what Apple may be doing underneath each update. A 17 year old blew this trillion dollar corporation' s plan wide open on Reddit. Who knows what else is in there.
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Why do you keep repeating this nonsense? The iPhone 6S and 7 were a year old when they started getting slowed down. What part of that don't you understand?
This reveals a very important caveat to the iPhone CPU which many keep praising Apple for. Android's CPU is weaker but doesn't need to be throttled because it just isn't that power hungry. With Apple you get those ultra fast CPUs but they get throttled after a few years as the batteries just aren't good enough to support them. An ultra fast gaming PC is no good with a subpar PSU and the same applies here.
US Govt Questions Apple on slowing older phones.
https://9to5mac.com/2018/01/09/senate-questions-apple-throttling/
I hope the pressure piles on even more.
https://9to5mac.com/2018/01/09/senate-questions-apple-throttling/
I hope the pressure piles on even more.
Can you actually stop Windows 10 from doing updates without resorting to registry hacks or manipulating background services? AFAIK you can only pause it, and that's only for a few weeks, at which point it's going to go back to nagging you in a similar style to iOS.
As for the rest...take your tinfoil hat off, come on.
He knows full well. At this point he is just trolling.
On the other hand there is a certain advantage to having an ultra-fast cpu when you need it and throttling when you don’t.
A PC that is designed to operates 24x7 at high performance with no power limitations isn’t an equal comparison.
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My 6s is two years old and I never had a performance slowdown before and certainly not after battery replacement.
And yet it's not as was described and claimed to be factual. Revising, backpedaling, and deflecting doesn't change that.
I understand completely.
What you need to understand yourself: Who says "a year old battery" is a new battery? It's the half-life of the "new every two years" iPhone mantra, Apple releases an updated S every 12 months and a brand new model every 24 months.
Apple themselves makes this very clear. Their benchmark for a battery suitable to be replaced is one that is below 80% efficiency. There you go. That can be, in some cases depending on the model and the users usage patterns, in 1 year. Additionally, Apple releases new iOS versions with explicit language in the Terms And Conditions that the new OS version comes with no guarantee that you'll be happy with its performance, that it will be compatible with all third-party applications, or that it will meet your expectations.
If a year old iPhone 7 is running a new iOS version that is designed for the iPhone 8 and that tips the remaining battery over the point where it needs to be throttled, that's on the owner of the phone, not Apple. Read the Terms And Conditions before you hit the "AGREE" button. It's there for a reason. It's supposed to be read.
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The article also states:
"It’s important to note that the investigation is preliminary and could lead to preliminary charges or be dropped altogether."
My 6S was throttled after less than one year according to GB. Now after 13 month it is at half the usual speed.
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My 6S is at 87% and one year old. Yet it is already throttled to half its usual speed.
PCs don't tend to operate at full speed 24x7, either.
Mind, I believe power and thermals are also the limiting factor for the Turbo Boost feature introduced in Sandy Bridge. New Intel processors usually have a base frequency and a max Turbo frequency (e.g. 2GHz base, 3GHz Turbo). CPUs would go up to Turbo during burst loads heat and power permitting but may drop down to base freq on sustained workloads.
With a wonky PSU, random shutdowns can be expected on PCs, too. Worse yet, it's a fire hazard so the PSU is something I never cheap out on in my custom builds.
We're at iPhone 10 and iPhone 8 and past iPhone 7 and you are referring to an iPhone 6S which was designed in 2014 and released in 2015.
I am sorry that your iPhone has been throttled, but it is a 3+ year old design with a 3+ year old processor and it really doesn't matter how fresh your battery is. It's an old phone with an old processor designed for iOS 9 and it would have been best if you didn't update to iOS 11.
Seeing your signature, you have been in iPhone's long enough to know this.
Learn better math.
6s was release in Sept 2015. Sept 2015 -> Sept 2017 = 2 years.
6s is a 2+ (not 3+) year old phone that is being artificially throttled via software which Apple wouldn't have even acknowledged had they not been caught red handed.
Simply unacceptable behavior on Apples part. Their arrogant no-name "apology", while still charging customers for battery replacements, doesn't come close to making up for such shady practices to begin with...
So you are saying it is ok the 6S got throttled because it was designed three years ago?
Learn to read. I said the 6S was designed in 2014. Which is was. Using the processors and technology of the day 3+ years ago, an eternity in mobile years.
As for the rest, so this is what it boils down to now? The tone of the "apology". Give me a break. Enjoy your new iPhone and be grateful an innovative company like Apple exists to provide it to you.
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Well, yes.
If I'm reading you correctly, a year ago you eschewed the iPhone 7 and decided to go the less expensive route and purchase an iPhone 6S. So sitting here a year later, even more removed from it's 2014 design date, you are in an iPhone that's 3+ years and 3 generations old. To you it's a "new iPhone" and it "should just work" but from a technical standpoint you purchased a phone that was designed for iOS9.
So it's not so much the fact that you got throttled, it's why you would think that you were going to be getting a wicked fast iPhone to begin with. It was already outdated when you bought it, and certainly way past prime here today here 3 iPhone generations later. And forget the word "okay" for a moment. To you it should be expected. That's what you get when you buy the oldest iPhone on the shelf in an Apple store and choose to run it on the latest iOS a year later.
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So now we asses the age of products not by when they were actually released to the public... but instead when they might have been designed in the lab?
Hey, better yet... why not go ahead and say that the 6s is 4+ years old because Apple thought up the concept of it in 2013!
The age of a product is when it is first released. Its just like when a baby is born you don't say it's "9 months + 1 day old"... it's simply "1 day old"
This is next level. I can’t believe what I just read.
iPhone 7 was 1 generation later after the iPhone 6s.
iPhone 8(current phone) is 2 generations later. Not “3 iPhone generations later”. Stop inflating numbers to try to make your argument look better.
Modern Intel Processors can operate at max frequency. Turbo Boost is never efficient because when you turn it on, it will spike the voltage to unnecessarily higher levels for that level of clock speed which heats up the CPU and then drastically reduced it to cool it. Which is why a manual overclock is used through BIOS. I have my 7700k at a constant 4.5ghz and I ran Prime95 stable for 24 hours straight at my voltage timings and clock speed.
Of course if you get the 7700 you don’t have the option as it doesn’t come with a unlocked multiplier. But I never considered AMD and Intel speed boosts to be efficient anyway.
By his amazing logic /s the iPhone X was designed in 2016 so it's still only 2 years newer than the 6s.
But these phones are throttling even in basic use. Many people have reported a noticeable improvement in performance after the battery was replaced. The phone is being throttled even when it shouldn't be.
Bolt, nobody is expecting their 6S or 7 to run as fast as the 8 or X. Everybody realizes that the components in the new phones are way faster. So if the iPhone 8's processor is twice as fast as the iPhone 6S's for example, then we expect the 8 to run apps twice as fast. And we realize that all phones will slow down as more CPU-intensive OS's are released.
The problem is that there was a flaw in the batteries of the 6S and 7, that showed as early as a year into their releases that resulted in Apple's 'smoothing' of the O/S to prevent shutdowns etc. This 'smoothing' can occur for people at different times depending on usage and perhaps the battery itself. And many people won't even notice it.
But now your 6S, which might be only a year old, which you expect to be half as fast as an 8, gets slowed down to a third of it's original speed and now, it runs at a 1/6th of the speed of the 8. In my books, that's not to be expected. That is a compensation for a poorly spec'd out or designed battery. Yes, Apple admitted it, but it was too late and many unsuspecting people didn't realize the 'smoothing' was taking place and went out to buy a new iPhone. A ****** battery shouldn't last very long, but it also shouldn't slow your phone down.
For unlocked K versions, sure. Boils down to binning. I expect the silicon that gets sold as K can handle higher frequencies than the ones with locked multiplier to begin with.
Before the K series chips (and after Intel started locking multipliers), I remember OCing chips (same model) by changing clock rate. Some chips would be stable at 4GHz with barely a bump in voltage while others can't get past 3.5GHz.
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The reason the K series nonsense exists is because AMD isn't providing any competition for Intel. All Ryzen chips come with an unlocked multiplier which is how it should be. Intel like Apple greedily decided to make more money out of their trapped users which is why the k series is charged higher when it should be the default chip.
The 7700k in particular has very substandard TIM which is why it downclocks when Turboboost is enabled just like Apple's substandard batteries. Delidding the CPU results in a substantial increase in overclocking potential.
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Why are these CPUs called desktop class? My XPS 13 from 2015 has a slower CPU than the A10 Fusion in the 7 Plus yet Windows 10 did not slow down my XPS nor did it throttle it while the 7 Plus is having nothing but problems on iOS 11. The desktop OS is also more complex than iOS.
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He unknowingly made an excellent point. The iPad 2017 has the same A9 processor which means it's effectively a 2014 designed product so why is that not throttled?So now we asses the age of products not by when they were actually released to the public... but instead when they might have been designed in the lab?
Hey, better yet... why not go ahead and say that the 6s is 4+ years old because Apple thought up the concept of it in 2013!
The age of a product is when it is first released. Its just like when a baby is born you don't say it's "9 months + 1 day old"... it's simply "1 day old"
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