Col4bin
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It's called technological progress. With your mentality, we'd still be using old iPod scroll wheel functionality. Be better.
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Apple is Struggling to Integrate Touch ID Under the iPhone 8's Display
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You kinda want to have the "that most secure thing" to be in-house only, more than rely on an outsider to do the job, as then u truth them not to leak, or get hacked or whatever else. It's probably more secret than saying "someone else can go to the same company Apple uses" to do the same thing..
...except when Apple can' t do it....
oops. we've hit a hard pocket.. Looks like Apple's got a bit of a challenge.
...except when Apple can' t do it....
oops. we've hit a hard pocket.. Looks like Apple's got a bit of a challenge.
nobackup
macrumors regular
There is other Technology available and ready today that covers this plus the other rumor about bio measurement, so I am sure that Apple could access this if they wanted to
Abazigal
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That's what we pay Apple to do - implement all this incremental improvements year after year which makes using our devices that much nicer.
I look forward to being able to swipe on a message and authenticate touch-ID in one fluid motion, unlike the current arrangement where I still have to move my finger to the fingerprint sensor below the display.
"integrating Touch ID underneath the display glass"
Touch ID completely under the display, so u may not have a Home button... ... The entire screen will be ToughID enabled. If you do have a Home button on iPhone 8 it would just "just a home button" and thats it
The pic is how it currently operates.
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The only way to remove the bezel is to embed the touch id into the display.
There is nothing wrong with touchID now, but the iPhone is too big, especially the Plus, due to the bezel.
Sure they can leave it on the front, but we'd have the same iPhone design for another year and people like me are waiting for a bezel free iPhone to go for the bigger screen
The Game 161
macrumors Nehalem
Think chances are Apple get it under the display and wait to release it. Thinking November time
macs4nw
macrumors 601
Agreed, but something tells me Timmy ain't gone lose out on that almighty X-mas shopping season, and if necessary, compromises will be made just like was done with the scuttled larger-capacity terraced batteries in last year's MBPs.
patent10021
macrumors 68040
Oh FU guys. We know what you're going to do. iPhone 8 will have the regular home button and iPhone 8s will have all glass no home button.
I think it won' t happen and touchid will be in the apple logo on the back.
Delay a product or do compromises. Ehmm
Apple always chooses the compromise.
Stock holders just won' t accept that.
Or they should launch a 7s plus with 5.7 inch oled screen, in the same footprint, but with smaller bezels and chins. There is enough room for that. But won' t happen.
The Game 161
macrumors Nehalem
They can't do that as they wouldn't be able to justify the smaller model not getting OLED
It makes more sense for Apple to announce it with the 7 and 7s and let people pre order it.
I personally would rather they get it right and wait than rush it and change their plan. Not like our current iPhones aren't still working great
The main issue i could foresee as being a problem is durability of glass in front of the sensor as previously it was sapphire. I assume they wouldn't attempt to put it below the oled unless they already sorted that issue. It sounds like r&d not production to me. I'm starting to believe we are going to see the same design once again this year.
Yes, i know, i want that too. But with apple, sales nr' s , comparisons to the quarter the year before, etc you never know what they would do. The 7s and 7s plus just won' t cut it on their own this year anymore, having too break recors by basically selling the same design for the 4th year won' t give them sales records anymore.
Or they will enable preordering the iphone 8/x at the same time as the 7s releases, with waiting times of 6 weeks or somerhing like that. To keep showing positive numbers to the shareholders.
Or they put touchid on the back, and release it at the same time as the 7s.....
kingalexthe1st
macrumors 6502
Integrate a smaller version of it around the outside of the phone, like they did with the antenna in the iPhone4?
Or , since the back is made from glass, make a very large touchid area on the back, so you can calibrate the touchid by simply holding the iphone the way you always hold it(calibrate both left and right hands) and you can unlock it automatically by simply holding the iphone the same way you always do. That would require a scanner that can scan larger areas of your finger instead of just your fingertips.
An should you really be messing with the phone in the car anyway?
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Have you tried the S8 with the reader on the back?
All droid phones with facial recognition can be unlocked by a photo, but each one states its not a security feature
kingalexthe1st
macrumors 6502
I think this is their design game, though. After the original 3 phones, they released the 4 and then the 4S with the same design. The 5 was a small difference, but still had the same design 'language' of chamfered edges etc. So there are 4-year cycles with 2-year cycles within. The design of the 6 was a new 4-year cycle 'language' with small differences between the 6/6s and the 7.
With that came the change of moving the camera advancements away from the S models into the plus models, and a a 3rd iphone release every 2 years. 5C -> 5SE -> 8/edition/whatever to make up for the lack of design change on the S years.
They've become highly predictable. Anyway, back to TouchID....
Quotes like these are fallible. When I read quotes like yours, it truly expresses an insurmountable amount of ignorance. You have ZERO intuition and understanding of what it takes to be a CEO of 43 Billion dollar company and confidently state Cook is not a "Visionary", "Innovative", "Incapable" Guy. All chosen words on your behalf that are way past your knowledge of anything what it takes to conduct transactions with manufacturers and supply chains.
Nor, am I stating that I understand fully what it takes to be a CEO of a $43 billing company, but I certainly won't make disparaging comments or pretend I have even the slightest bit of knowledge to do what Cook does on a daily basis, being you have no idea what you're talking about and are well past your own experience.
Also, You Do you understand that Steve Jobs appointed Tim Cook directly to be CEO of a company that he clearly envisioned would be in his hands to lead on a successful rate? You can't prove that he's not a visionary of where the company is heading and where their productline is ultimately leading. If you're going to make comments like the ones you did in your post, at least have something of substance to back up what you're saying.
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Rotate their wrist to look for the finger print scanner? Wow, that sounds like a fun thing to have to do every time you want to unlock your phone or authenticate something.
NT1440
macrumors P6
Because you found it on a rumor site? 🙄so this mess will be the real deal then...
so this mess will be the real deal then...
No! That doesn't even look like a real attempt at guessing. It's like someone took the LG G6 and mated it with an iPhone 7Plus amidst nuclear fallout just for laughs. Begone in the name of Elvis, unclean spirit.
No, just no.
Apple does some weird things these days but that is beyond weird.
I'm sure Apple will get this sorted so it looks better than that.
TRDmanAE86
macrumors 6502
Tbh I feel that with option #2, putting the Touch ID on the back is not the end of the world.
My current phone is a LG V10. It has the power button (which holds a Touch ID Sensor) and the volume rockers on the back because supposedly its more natural to hold the phone this way. Surprisingly in this position, unlocking the phone is a breeze (as seen in spoiler)
In my opinion, its a lot easier to unlock the phone in your pocket than with a phone with the Touch ID on the front display.
The real downside to having the Touch ID on the back is your access to the sensor more restricted than having it on the front. Two situations that come to mind is trying to unlock it via while having the phone resting flat or while on a stand. You can plug in different fingerprints too for these situations to alleviate the problem but, that does not take away from the situation where you cannot fit your finger behind the phone.
Another minor downside was the execution of implementing the sensor. In the V10 The Touch ID\Power button has always been clunky (even right out of the box)
For the average Apple consumer, I personally feel it would be better to take that little bit longer to integrate the Touch ID sensor on the front.
My current phone is a LG V10. It has the power button (which holds a Touch ID Sensor) and the volume rockers on the back because supposedly its more natural to hold the phone this way. Surprisingly in this position, unlocking the phone is a breeze (as seen in spoiler)
The real downside to having the Touch ID on the back is your access to the sensor more restricted than having it on the front. Two situations that come to mind is trying to unlock it via while having the phone resting flat or while on a stand. You can plug in different fingerprints too for these situations to alleviate the problem but, that does not take away from the situation where you cannot fit your finger behind the phone.
Another minor downside was the execution of implementing the sensor. In the V10 The Touch ID\Power button has always been clunky (even right out of the box)
For the average Apple consumer, I personally feel it would be better to take that little bit longer to integrate the Touch ID sensor on the front.