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I think that's just bollocks. Just because the first time Jobs was out Apple went down doesn't mean it was only about him. Jobs next big thing was Nextstep which didn't actually make a lot of money either and was forced to quit the hardware business later on.

I'm not an investor and a Jobs fan, but I'm pretty sure Apple will do just fine without him from now on. You do realize that neither iPod nor Clickwheel interface were Jobs' ideas?

Next didn't make a lot of money. hmm, well I won't even comment on that one :D

sigh. ok you win, your right. but in my opinion apple will start to go down hill around ten years after Steve ceases to be involed. now don't get upset, it's only my opinion. but it takes vision, people can learn from Steve but to take an idea and perfect it, hone it and don't give in to mediocrity, all those people that want to add this or thinks the product can do without that or how about timing? there's so much to consider. sorry, I don't trust apple in the hands of anyone else. I've been around and have seen apple go up down and sideways. and not just apple, you'd be hard pressed to name any other great visionary in the digital age. so say what you will but to me, it's obvious.

now I gotta go cause I'm working on my NEXT, I mean my OSX computer.
 
Next didn't make a lot of money. hmm, well I won't even comment on that one :D

sigh. ok you win, your right. but in my opinion apple will start to go down hill around ten years after Steve ceases to be involed. now don't get upset, it's only my opinion. but it takes vision, people can learn from Steve but to take an idea and perfect it, hone it and don't give in to mediocrity, all those people that want to add this or thinks the product can do without that or how about timing? there's so much to consider. sorry, I don't trust apple in the hands of anyone else. I've been around and have seen apple go up down and sideways. and not just apple, you'd be hard pressed to name any other great visionary in the digital age. so say what you will but to me, it's obvious.

now I gotta go cause I'm working on my NEXT, I mean my OSX computer.

Like I said, some of the best innovations Apple did last decade weren't Jobs ideas, like iPod or clickwheel interface. iPhone was his baby yes, but can we say that for anything else? Mac would have existed without Jobs for sure, so would OS X.

iTunes music store was one of the biggest things though.

And I was serious about Next. They had to drop hardware business due to low sales and became software only company. I wouldn't call it a glamouring success.
 
Seems like the earliest event announcement ever. I seem to remember the special events are usually announced 7 days before. Wonder if its because of all the date leaks. I also think that the fact the event is coming right at he start of September reinforces the chances of an October event for iMacs and maybe tablets.

If we do get both I wonder which the Apple TV fits into - if at all?
 
Student orders by 8 Sept!

explains:
"Buy a Mac for your studies, and an iPod touch can be yours*
Order by 8 Sept."
 
It's like that every year. Clear old inventory before a product refresh.

A while back I've got a refreshed MBP (the last pre-unibody model) and still managed to get BTS promo. But back then they've announced new macs early and the wait time was 4 weeks...

So it was a new MBP, a new iPod nano and BTS = good deal.
 
Upgrade the Apple TV to be less buggy and have some of the features of the WD TV and I'll buy it in a second.

iTunes 9 will be great. Here's hoping for 64 bit.

I really hope we get Steve Jobs too! :D


And what benefits will you get from iTunes being 64-bit? I predict: none. But I guess nothing can stop the 64-bit hype :)
 
Gps

Have noticed a few predictions suggesting that the Touch refresh will leave off GPS which for me, personally, would be a disappointment.

Inclusion would square functionality with the iPhone so as to not leave the Touch feeling like an inferior product, plus the Nike iPod functionality would become greatly more usable than it has ever been on the Touch or the Nano.

It would similarly seem ill at ease with the general Apple push through iPhoto in particular towards geotagging. I carry about a Sony Cybershot as a day to day camera and manually geotag my images. For me, what I might lose in camera fidelity for day to day snapshots using the Touch one would be compensated by having in GPS a feature which is pretty rare in compact size cameras.
 
What iPod has a headphone jack on the bottom? The Nano. Why? The hold switch. Has any other iPod had a bottom headphone jack? Have any of the rumoured 'new iPods' had a bottom headphone jack?

Interesting picture for their invite.

It looks like a large Classic iPod sized device, with a bottom headphone jack...
 
What iPod has a headphone jack on the bottom? The Nano. Why? The hold switch. Has any other iPod had a bottom headphone jack? Have any of the rumoured 'new iPods' had a bottom headphone jack?

Interesting picture for their invite.

It looks like a large Classic iPod sized device, with a bottom headphone jack...

The iPod Touch.
 
Have noticed a few predictions suggesting that the Touch refresh will leave off GPS which for me, personally, would be a disappointment.

Inclusion would square functionality with the iPhone so as to not leave the Touch feeling like an inferior product, plus the Nike iPod functionality would become greatly more usable than it has ever been on the Touch or the Nano.

It would similarly seem ill at ease with the general Apple push through iPhoto in particular towards geotagging. I carry about a Sony Cybershot as a day to day camera and manually geotag my images. For me, what I might lose in camera fidelity for day to day snapshots using the Touch one would be compensated by having in GPS a feature which is pretty rare in compact size cameras.

But the touch has to be an inferior product. If the touch gave you everything but cellular capability that would/could bleed from iPhone sales.

I expect that sooner or later Apple will have to release a multi service iPhone because it would increase their market share enormously. Oh, and cause a lot of people to walk from AT&T and their crap network. Imagine, if you will, all those people burned by AT&T's network and rules about upgrading marching to Verizon to get their 3GS's. OUCH! I wonder if that's why Apple won't release a cross vendor phone? Aside from the technical issues...
 
What iPod has a headphone jack on the bottom? The Nano. Why? The hold switch. Has any other iPod had a bottom headphone jack? Have any of the rumoured 'new iPods' had a bottom headphone jack?

Interesting picture for their invite.

It looks like a large Classic iPod sized device, with a bottom headphone jack...

All generations of iPod nano and all versions of the iPod touch have the headphone jack on the bottom.

The iPhone and classic have the top-mounted jack.

The image in the poster is of the iPod touch.
 
Next didn't make a lot of money. hmm, well I won't even comment on that one :D

sigh. ok you win, your right. but in my opinion apple will start to go down hill around ten years after Steve ceases to be involed. now don't get upset, it's only my opinion. but it takes vision, people can learn from Steve but to take an idea and perfect it, hone it and don't give in to mediocrity, all those people that want to add this or thinks the product can do without that or how about timing? there's so much to consider. sorry, I don't trust apple in the hands of anyone else. I've been around and have seen apple go up down and sideways. and not just apple, you'd be hard pressed to name any other great visionary in the digital age. so say what you will but to me, it's obvious.

now I gotta go cause I'm working on my NEXT, I mean my OSX computer.

maybe a member of his family (daughter, grandson) could be the leading light next?

after all, it is steves blood.
 
Like I said, some of the best innovations Apple did last decade weren't Jobs ideas, like iPod or clickwheel interface. iPhone was his baby yes, but can we say that for anything else? Mac would have existed without Jobs for sure, so would OS X.

iTunes music store was one of the biggest things though.

And I was serious about Next. They had to drop hardware business due to low sales and became software only company. I wouldn't call it a glamouring success.

Apple's problem has been picking the wrong people to manage the company.

An exec from Pepsi? Sure... FAIL!

They need to find someone who isn't all gaga from the technology. I mean, what sense would it make to appoint Ted Stevens to run an internet company. Get my point?

Apple would have done better with practically anyone else than Gil Amelio. I'd think that a 5th grade dropout could have run Apple better. Well perhaps I'm slightly too harsh on him but it's all in the vision.

Oh, and I think that the Mac was not something Steve concentrated on as wasn't he working on running the Lisa into the ground at the time? Wasn't Steve's involement in the Mac the reason it had no slots (fan) or user modification potential? For all of Steve's supposed 'gifts', he has proven himself to be human many times in the past.
 
All generations of iPod nano and all versions of the iPod touch have the headphone jack on the bottom.

The iPhone and classic have the top-mounted jack.

The image in the poster is of the iPod touch.

Yes, you are right about the touch. I actually had to look since I don't use it at all anymore. Well, perhaps the picture is just a picture then... Although doesn't it seem to be wider? Oh well, in 8 days we will find out.
 
But the touch has to be an inferior product. If the touch gave you everything but cellular capability that would/could bleed from iPhone sales.

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To be honest I have always thought that their market positioning was to make the products as similar as possible with the cellular / non-cellular element being the primary difference. I do appreciate the camera was a significant difference but that is being closed down now anyway.

I am probably similar to many people out there who already has a paid for work phone, or is locked in a contract and however appealing an iPhone is, it is impossible to justify. So not sure why myself and other Touch users should be punished for this with inferior products when there is not a valid technical reason why they should be.
 
Take a close look at the image of the iPod in her hand, iPod Classic with a headphone jack at the bottom?
I hope they don't add a camera to the classic, I think it should remain a strictly pro audio device.
I would like to see larger capacity, better sound quality and improved menus.

Yeah, cause the iPod has always been a pro audio device. Seen in only the most top notch recording studios in the world. Why would they want any of your average consumers to get one? Blech!
 
Yeah, cause the iPod has always been a pro audio device. Seen in only the most top notch recording studios in the world. Why would they want any of your average consumers to get one? Blech!

The keyboardist (Jorden Rudess) of the band Dream Theater uses the iPod Touch during one of their new songs, A Rite of Passage. It was sick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-rT3y4EIHM

It occurs briefly before the 7:00 mark.
 
Thanks to the The Beatles Rock Band I've discovered The Beatles music. I would love to have Beatles on iTunes to go with The Beatles Rock Band on my 360 on 09.09.09.
 
I've been saying this since the first touch was announced... what were they thinking with flash memory???

Are you an idiot, you can't use a disk operating hard drive in the iPod touch, what do you think is going to happen when you're shaking it all the time when you're playing games. Plus I don't think the form factor would allow it.
 
But the touch has to be an inferior product. If the touch gave you everything but cellular capability that would/could bleed from iPhone sales.
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I think the success of the app store puts paid to that. It makes sense for them to have the largest installed base of devices (which are ipod touches) to be as compatible with as many app store apps as possible

If they're putting the camera on there, then I'd hope they put the GPS in there too - and I expect companies like tom tom etc will be lobbying for the same
 
Like I said, some of the best innovations Apple did last decade weren't Jobs ideas, like iPod or clickwheel interface. iPhone was his baby yes, but can we say that for anything else? Mac would have existed without Jobs for sure, so would OS X.

iTunes music store was one of the biggest things though.

And I was serious about Next. They had to drop hardware business due to low sales and became software only company. I wouldn't call it a glamouring success.

I think you are confused about what Steve brings to the table. He doesnt come in to work every day and try to design clickwheels or count beans.

Jobs provides the vision and direction for Apple and fits other people's ideas and work into that. It is likely that the most important thing he does is say "No" all day long to ideas and products that dont live up to his vision. Without someone as uncompromising and devoted to his own vision of computing Apple would slowly and surely become like all the other CE companies that ARE run by engineers and bureaucrats.

That is a little to Jobs worshippy for my tastes so I will say that he wouldnt be nearly as successful without the vast stable of talent Apple has accumulated. But the inverse is also true, without Jobs steering the ship Apple would be nowhere near as successful as they are now regardless of the talent they possess. Like it or not. Genius is rare, genius combined with productive narcissism is even more so. When he finally passes, I will be unloading my Apple stock as fast as possible.
 
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