And yet people still don't understand that you can't have laws that enforce religious beliefs. From gay marriage to blue laws. Yet Christians feel it's an attack at their beliefs yet they can't seem to understand that you can't have laws to enforce your beliefs on people who don't share your religion. If your church chooses to to marry same sex couples that's fine, you just can't have a law to forbade it.
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Apple Issues Statement in Support of Supreme Court Gay Marriage Rulings
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And yet people still don't understand that you can't have laws that enforce religious beliefs. From gay marriage to blue laws. Yet Christians feel it's an attack at their beliefs yet they can't seem to understand that you can't have laws to enforce your beliefs on people who don't share your religion. If your church chooses to to marry same sex couples that's fine, you just can't have a law to forbade it.
There are countries where it is illegal, you might want to consider relocating?
Don't forget the part about eating shrimp. Of course, the argument is that the new testament does away with the old, but why bother including the old testament in the bible if it's only the new testament counts? Didn't Jesus preach about loving your neighbor and enemy and doesn't the bible say something about being your bother's keeper, how can anyone follow the message of loving their neighbor if they hate gays so much?
Simply put, this is about discriminating against the people viewed weak in our society and using a 2,000 year old book written by old men with gray beards to justify their own hate despite all the contradiction and intellectual dishonesty so-called Christians face.
LOL, you're so predictable.
Really? What am I going to do next?
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Marriage is, (or became), a ceremony carried out with witness before god. This needs changing. Gay marriage is fine but not in a church until those ideas change.
And Apple did step up and offer domestic partner benefits to their employees. But the benefits they offered to same sex couples were taxable as additional compensation to the employee rather than tax free as they are for opposite sex couples because the law treated them differently.
It is one thing to "put your head up" and make unqualified assertions, it is quite another to make a sound argument as to why your unqualified opinion should prevail against the rights of others who may believe differently.
I love seeing the same old liberal crew "come out" and post on topics such as these, but you will never see them in the regular apple thread discussions. I wonder if some of them even own apple products...
What does pay equality have to do with their gay employees being able to marry and everything legal/financial that includes? How can Apple control that? They CAN'T. But they CAN influence change and so they have.
What? If you read more history than me, you should know that the church has always been prosecuting anybody not dancing after their whistle, imprisoning them, torturing them, killing them - you name the lot. So, after 2000 years, some people decided to stay true to themselves and fight back and suddenly they're the haters?
You've got your priorities twisted.
Not really. The Military is a Government entity and should not descriminate. Companies are private and should be free to publicize their own views, as long as they are willing to accept the consequences...
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Marriage is a legally binding contract between 2 adults. You can get married in a church or other religious ceremony 100 times but unless you have a state issued marriage license your marriage is not valid by law.
Marriage is a legally binding contract between 2 adults. You can get married in a church or other religious ceremony 100 times but unless you have a state issued marriage license your marriage is not valid by law.
Strawman & false as well.
Believing in traditional marriage = hate ain't gonna get you to far in the long run. Because in of itself, that argument is a fallacy.
I believe marriage is a Sacrament between a man & a women. Do I "hate" someone because I disagree with their position on the issue? Of course not. Real hatred requires effort my lazy ass is not interested in maintaining.
If gays want to get "married" at a court house & it's legal to do so in their state, have at it. They should get all the civil rights as laid out in the Consititution like anyone else. Just don't try and force my Church or people of any Faith to perform a marriage ceremony for a homosexual couple.
If someone disagrees with you on an issue stop asserting their disagreement = hatred. That's such a fallacy.
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So hetrosexual couple who can't have kids should not be allowed to get married? How about those who DON'T WANT kids?
I've said it many times in public to. Also more than happy to post my views on public domains like Facebook. I don't say one thing in private and another in public like some people. However it's not about me.
We all know Tim Cook is gay. If he feels strongly about this subject he should come out and say so publicly under his own name and not use Apple to issue the statement. That was my point and I stand by it.
He has damaged Apple's brand by associating them with this subject.
Those "ideas" are already changing in churches and will only do so more rapidly as they realise anachronistic views don't fill pews and collection plates.
Just like how Apple has been "damaged" for years while jobs was in charge supporting gay rights....
There's a HUGE disparity between real history & progressive history. Your assertion has no basis in fact but it does, however fit the progressive narrative very well. I do seem to recall the progressive French Revolution did slaughter nuns, priests, religious of any faith by the thousands...hmmm
Should we be so defensive of all other religious prejudices too? What a can of worms that would be!
Strawman & false as well.
Believing in traditional marriage = hate ain't gonna get you to far in the long run. Because in of itself, that argument is a fallacy.
I believe marriage is a Sacrament between a man & a women. Do I "hate" someone because I disagree with their position on the issue? Of course not. Real hatred requires effort my lazy ass is not interested in maintaining.
If gays want to get "married" at a court house & it's legal to do so in their state, have at it. They should get all the civil rights as laid out in the Consititution like anyone else. Just don't try and force my Church or people of any Faith to perform a marriage ceremony for a homosexual couple.
If someone disagrees with you on an issue stop asserting their disagreement = hatred. That's such a fallacy.
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Do you honestly believe that once gay marriage is allowed everywhere, we are all going to run to the Churches that have been actively trying to withhold our rights and force them to marry us?
It's the classic case of the bully playing the victim. It's a shallow, self-centered view that has no basis in reality.
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