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So, we just need Apple to invest in OpenStreetMap and fix their data by having them reload all the new data from all the Satellites?

Apple to the rescue for Wiki Map! :apple: to fight google from taking over all map services.

Not sure what your point is, I was just saying that the map service you raved about use the same data. I have no idea what Bing or Yahoo is using btw.
 
This, to me, is more important than turn by turn. I have a Garmin for that. But if I'm walking in unfamiliar city and want to find food, I expect to be able to see all nearby eating establishments. If Apple's map can't even do that for you, it's really a bit pointless.

I think this is an important observation: the way I use a nav tool like TomTom for driving is not the same as the asking to see where the nearest seafood restaurants are.
 
LOL. So Tim Cook says they think the maps app is great during the keynote and a day after the release of iOS 6 they have to issue a statement to explain why it sucks. Pure comedy. Almost as funny as the EPEAT fiasco.

Apple, the richest company in the world with over $100 billion dollars in reserve puts out the crappiest map ever. Way to slap the customer. Is this a joke or do they think their customers are that gullible? Maybe it is the latter.

Apple is supposed to be about polished products that have been reviewed from every angle before being released. Now we get Siri that works nothing like the commercials (like the beta tag gives them an out) and the giant turd known as Apple maps.

And the biggest joke are the people buying the iPhone 5. The giant drilled holes by the speaker and mic scream cost cutting vs. the 4S' mesh and look like ass. The camera hole isn't concentric with the outer phone radius looks terrible. The 5 is barely any different thant the 4S other than being uglier and cheaper looking. It also comes with an inferior mapping solution vs the 4S. And the connector is non-compatible with any other current iPhone accessory. Nice *downgrade*.

It's going to be sad to see Tim Cook and the rest of the bean counting dorks at Apple run it into the ground. Again. It won't happen overnight but you can already see the cracks in Apple's armor.

Cook is no Jobs. And no Jobs = no Apple.
 
Of course they knew what they were doing and obviously they didn't care what their customers thought. Of course at this very moment thousands are lining up to by the new iPhone.

Why should they care?



Apple won't be. It will be the iOS device doing it on it's own, just like the iPhone did a while back.

Well... I don't think that's fair. You don't get to be the most valuable company on the planet by not caring what your customers think. They obviously knew there was going to be some backlash, but figured they would be able to weather it and still come out on top.

IOS 6 has only been out for less than 2 days, so I'm sure they have something up their sleeve. I bet in a few weeks things will look very different.
 
Well... I don't think that's fair. You don't get to be the most valuable company on the planet by not caring what your customers think. They obviously knew there was going to be some backlash, but figured they would be able to weather it and still come out on top.

IOS 6 has only been out for less than 2 days, so I'm sure they have something up their sleeve. I bet in a few weeks things will look very different.
They already do.

Different like this:
 

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Maps are crowd sourced. You need a crowd to crowd source.

For those wondering why Apple didn't test this, Of course they did. However, no one company has millions of staff on their payroll. For that, you have to take it to the customers who inevitably will find the problems. It's a game of odds.

The only reliable way to refine their maps app is to crowd source and to crowd source you need a crowd. You are the crowd.

Every iPhone, iPad and iPod with iOS6 will now be pinging Apple HQ and refining the maps every time somebody drives on a road that is slightly off or when cars with occupants with iPhones in their pockets regularly drive over a non existent road. When businesses notice that their doorstep is several feet off the mark and adjust pins to perfect it.

It won't take years or even months to start seeing serious improvements. We'll begin to see them almost immediately as people begin upgrading to iOS6.

You just can't map the world in a few years that this has been in development. Google has a decade head start but Apple's first public version is already around what Google was in year 5 with features that Google is just now adding. They'll be on par soon enough courtesy of iOS's massive installed base.
 
I love all the justifications on this thread.

And the temerity of Apple's statement is funny (to me).

Also - I hope everyone caught the comment that it's cloud based and that the more people use it - the better it will get.

Meaning - everyone with an iPhone or iPad is now doing their homework. And you aren't getting paid either.
 
They weren't sleeping, they were just using the maps app to get to work, but it kept guiding them to a destination a mile away from where Apple HQ actually was.

Actually, we should check the bridge near apple HQ to see how many dead employees there are.

(See the new Maps icon)
 
Not sure what your point is, I was just saying that the map service you raved about use the same data. I have no idea what Bing or Yahoo is using btw.

I don't believe I was raving about MaqQuest. Just providing another option.

I believe mapping service should be something like IETF. No one company should own any mapping data and that data should be available for anyone to access and use. How companies create the application and transform the data and use it is up to them. But everyone should have the same access to all world mapped data.
 
I love all the justifications on this thread.

And the temerity of Apple's statement is funny (to me).

Also - I hope everyone caught the comment that it's cloud based and that the more people use it - the better it will get.

Meaning - everyone with an iPhone or iPad is now doing their homework. And you aren't getting paid either.

Yep, we are supposed to use their app to drive to places that don't exist, wasting our time, and then help them fix the error.
 
If by pretty good you mean failing to find walking directions to an Apple Store in Soho:) The blue line stopped 2 block away from it, was pretty funny.

I actually think maps is actually pretty good. It probably helps I'm in New York. But def needs improvements

Actually one of the Apple employees was on edge when I asked her about Maps, looks like complaints are rolling in.
 
You just can't map the world in a few years that this has been in development. Google has a decade head start but Apple's first public version is already around what Google was in year 5 with features that Google is just now adding. They'll be on par soon enough courtesy of iOS's massive installed base.

Hardly year 5. And Apple has had about 3 years so far if memory serves when they first bought their first mapping company.

At present - most people I know who have upgraded find it completely unusable.

I was always under the impression that Apple wasn't always first - but when they released something it was polished and "better" than the competition. At least that's what MR posters have "taught" me
 
This is just being blown out of proportion. Words like "completely unusable" are being used at the blink of an eye. I see a lot (not all) of people who are commenting just tried to "play" with Maps, tried to find stuff on it, and found these bugs and now they're like "OMG........... it's doing XXXXXXX, how will I ever use it!!!!!".

Few have actually used it (i.e. to navigate). I am one of them. I didn't have any issues, in fact, it was way better than the older one. Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to say there are no issues, but the perception of it being utterly useless isn't justifiable on Day 0 after just "playing" with it.

As for POIs and other stuff, give 'em some time..

I tried navigating.. it wanted me to drive through someone's backyard in order to get on to a road.

Therefore I have no confidence in Apple Maps navigation.. so why I'm I going to use it again?

When I search for locations, often it won't find them.. and then will find them on repeat attempts, or give suggestions for a place in another city instead of the location where I live. Not exactly inspiring stuff...
 
Google would be just stupid to rush with Maps app for iOS at this moment. It's not clear whether they are interested at all in this.

I think Google, regardless of potential of loss of income (if there would be any) would wait until every last minute of bad press hit Apple. No reason to rush.

And if they were looking to rush in to save the day - I could almost imagine Apple not approving their App for awhile so that they can get their user base to adopt their own Map app. Because once that App hits the store - it's (mostly) all over for a long time
 
I tried navigating.. it wanted me to drive through someone's backyard in order to get on to a road.

Therefore I have no confidence in Apple Maps navigation.. so why I'm I going to use it again?
Wuss. I would've just driven through their backyard.
 
I tried navigating.. it wanted me to drive through someone's backyard in order to get on to a road.

Therefore I have no confidence in Apple Maps navigation.. so why I'm I going to use it again?


lol...That may not be a bad idea.... It was the "shortest route"
 
Apple's Maps IS sick! And it's gonna get even better.

It's already leaps and bounds ahead of Google in terms of 3D Mapping image quality and landscape (Cars, Trees, Geography, Etc)

Couple glitches.... pfff... duh... they mapped and rendered the world.

I for one, think it is great.

I remember when google maps came out, and pretty much sucked all around for quite a while.

sucked all around compared to what?? altavista maps?, Askjeeves maps? a mapbook? my son can draw a map of our area and label where everything is along with the right angles of all the streets and side streets. He's one clever orange.
 
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