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Apple Issues Statement Over Day 1 'Maps' Glitches, Maps Team Reportedly Under Lockdown to Fix Issues

phpmaven said:
Obviously they new about all of the issues. They aren't stupid. For whatever reason, they decided to go ahead and release it anyway. You may say that it was a stupid idea to release it, but you can be sure they new what they were doing.
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Of course they knew what they were doing and obviously they didn't care what their customers thought. Of course at this very moment thousands are lining up to by the new iPhone.

Why should they care?

kas23 said:
Can someone, in very simple terms, explain to me how "the more people use it [Apple maps], the better it will get"? I really don't get it. Will Apple somehow be tracking where we drive?
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Apple won't be. It will be the iOS device doing it on it's own, just like the iPhone did a while back.
 
Holy heck, Apple's Maps is a big cluster fook. A complete load of garbage. So many blind followers here making excuse after excuse. You talk about iOS and all it's features/apps being so polished compared to Android. I don't remember Android having a new MAJOR feature so disgustingly bad and unfinished on release day. Apple should be completely ashamed at this monstrosity. This has amateur written all over it. Then on top of that, removing Google Maps at the same time is downright despicable.
 
firestarter said:
No.

A better analogy is if you were sitting down in a restaurant enjoying a perfectly cooked filet mignon that the chef (Google) had taken a lot of effort to perfect.

Half way through the steak some idiot (Apple) takes the plate from me and replaces it with a half baked weiner, and gives some story about it being better than steak anyway.
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Thanks for making an analogy, but my initial statement wasn't an analogy. It was a description of the culture of today.
Things must work. It must be fast. Its what we demand. Anything less and the user/customer is frustrated, confused, upset and complains.
 
pullfocus said:
You're right. It took billions of years. Which is how long it'll feel like while Apple plays catch up here.
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Apple is using OpenStreetMap data, I don't think the issues are directly related or it would not help to keep dev teams on "lock down".
 
prvt.donut said:
Not only are the satellite images old (my apartment building isn't on it) but the road layouts are old! They show the old road going through the middle of my building still!

The worst part for Japan users is that the routing for trains isn't finished! If I try to search a route and select train, it takes me to the App Store!

I want to know whose mapping service they are using? They must be buying licenses for this, and also, who at apple is vetting these decisions? I think they maybe did a deal for the whole world in America. Japan's maps are awful! Surely no one in Japan approved this!
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They're using Tom Tom's mapping service. People keep saying Google provided it, but that's not accurate. I'm not a fan of Tom Tom and love using Garmin's dedicated GPS unit for my driving which does the job very well for me.

The biggest mistake was using a GPS mapping service that lacks the depth of Google's detailed surveying. It's not going to take a day, a week or a month to resolve all this mess.

It's gonna take much longer than that. The smart move that Apple can do is remove Apple Maps, switch back to Google temporarily until they clean up Apple Maps.
 
Maps

In this statement "Maps is a cloud-based solution and the more people use it, the better it will get"

so is Google..... for that matter... Google's maps were stored on server..

Is Apple saying "their" maps are crowd sourced ?
 
Apple had how long? couple of years!!! still not able to perform :)
Let others do what they know best...
 
What a disgrace.
I'm embarrassed for them.
Can't believe the actually released this at this stage.
Hope Google's app gets approved soon!
 
Pilgrim1099 said:
They're using Tom Tom's mapping service. People keep saying Google provided it, but that's not accurate. I'm not a fan of Tom Tom and love using Garmin's dedicated GPS unit for my driving which does the job very well for me.

The biggest mistake was using a GPS mapping service that lacks the depth of Google's detailed surveying. It's not going to take a day, a week or a month to resolve all this mess.

It's gonna take much longer than that. The smart move that Apple can do is remove Apple Maps, switch back to Google temporarily until they clean up Apple Maps.
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They won't switch back. They've jumped feet first into the pool, and now have to deal with the cold, cold water.
 
nick_elt said:
Have you seen the difference in detail from apple maps to google maps. It took Google years to get where they are now. Its no quick fix.
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To be honest, I don't think that Google are the one making the maps themselves; they've simply partnered with some of the best companies in this business.
 
Saladinos said:
Not necessarily. The maps are rendered by Apple, and there are lots of issues with POIs, labelling and random parks and oceans and crap that could be software bugs.

Also, the reason Googles maps are so good is because they've been hand-tuned by an enormous team of people with lots of clever techniques and great in-house tools. That's something a lockdown can help with.

They could also work on integrating a better data set: possibly purchasing updated data from someone. Same could go for aerial images: there are lots of sources of this kind of data and Apple has lots of cash.

If none of it is good enough (and really, youd have thought Apple would have gone with the best data on the market from launch if not doing their own), theyre going to have to take their own pictures and integrate them sharp. How quickly do you reckon you could take aerial pictures of the globe with $100Bn?

You hire the imaging equipment and planes (of course). The value to Apple on getting this whole thing gone by Christmas is easily $5-$10Bn. That's what the cash hoard is for - emergencies like this. With that kind of cash. It might actually be doable to photograph the entire globe by the end of the year.
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They don't need to do that. They just need to kiss the NSA, NASA, and Pentagon's a$$ for permission since the globe was already mapped out by those guys. The government already has global data. Why waste all that money to survey the world when others have already done so?
 
pullfocus said:
Regardless of what data Apple is using, they are still playing catch up.
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If the data is available, and this issue is related to iOS being fresh out the door then the problem is of a completely different magnitude. Presumably Apple made an assessment of the quality of the maps data before they even started.
 
Many things have their names shows as what they were called in the 60's or 70's. Valley forge park was renamed in 1976, the high school near me is using a name that was changed in the early 70's. It's like they picked up maps from 1968 and started to fill in data from that.
 
subsonix said:
If the data is available, and this issue is related to iOS being fresh out the door then the problem is of a completely different magnitude.
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It's not the fact that it's still in it's infancy that I have an issue with. I can live with that.
It's the fact that Apple sold this as the single greatest thing to happen to maps since navigation that bugs me.

Yes, it's inferior. Which is fine, because Apple is new at this. The satallite images don't have to be perfect. The 3D and flyover stuff can be a bit wonky.
But geez, at least get the POI/on the ground data right, for crying out loud.
 
sazivad said:
This, and the Google Maps app, should be excellent.

Choice, choice, choice. Something kind of new to Apple.

Also, check out this Tumblr to see just how bad iOS 6 maps are.
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It's important to say that I've used Maps exactly once, to navigate a well-known route to work, just to see. It worked very well. Once, I decided to go another way, took another exit on the freeway, and it corrected in about 15 seconds.

But at least for the time being, I think I'll be using maps.google.com, or the Google Maps app, if Google deigns to make one. Doesn't seem like it would be much work. By the way, the original agreement for Apple to make the app that was Google Maps, that's up this year. If the two companies were communicating, they would have made the transition seamless.

My choice? For turn-by-turn, I use Motion X GPS drive. $15 a year for a voice. By the way, why didn't Google just give iOS a turn-by-turn version of Google Maps, if they're so free and open?
 
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