Folks also have to consider the fact that old WWDC sessions wouldn’t necessarily be of benefit to the company, especially if it was on out of date and no longer supported tech, for the Apple developer community.
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Apple Issues Takedown Order for Popular YouTube Channel That Archived WWDC Keynotes
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Then you don't understand simple concepts like ownership. Downvote all you want...
This isn't really even a PR issue as the only people that care are diehard fanboys and those that want to wax nostalgic over vintage Apple products. Not a single iPhone 14 is going unsold because we can no longer relive the introduction of the iMac in all its low-resolution 1998 glory.
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Exactly. What is that people don't understand about this?
In what way does this hurt Apple, what an absolute dick move from them
And uploading videos that belong to others without their permission is not a dick move? Amazing how many people have this totally backwards!
That doesn't change the fact that you have to defend your marks in the US if you want to keep them.
I don't get how people are confused by this; you can not use other people's work, even for "noble" reasons.
Those first two "possible reasons" are nonsense. You don't seriously believe that I hope. The third would be true in general of any company. It's THEIR brand. Why the heck would you want to let others exploit your brand for their own gain?
Well thats sad. But some important videos like the NeXT launch retreat are there.
I admit the first two reasons are somewhat flippant, but I believe there could be an element of truth to them. There is a lot of interest in many more old videos than what Apple has published. Are they going to publish the whole set after they succeed in taking down the videos in question? Or would they continue to only publish a subset, thus controlling the narrative?
Secondly, most of the old videos serve as fodder for Steve worship. Tim is human and most humans hate in incessant praise of their predecessors. I bet you he thinks “enough already!” more often than you think.
Because it is cool to hate on Apple and other big corporations! They, using a very general statement here, don't want to understand.
It’s typical copyright. You are required to do this otherwise it can come back to bite you. I find it ridiculous but discussing with a lawyer recently it’s apparently a requirement in a sense.
I like watching old episodes of "Perry Mason" but if I want to legally watch them my choices are to catch them on reruns, buy the DVD/Blu-ray boxset, or subscribe to a streaming services that hosts them. If none of those options are available that doesn't give me the right host them on Youtube or stream them from someone that is. It doesn't matter how culturally significant they are or how daft Viacom is potentially being by not releasing them publicly.
Simple if companies don’t defend copyrights and other licensing abuses that become a defense in court and other problems going forward. He must have deep pockets or a heck of a sense of entitlement to upload them to another service after receiving takedowns.
I’ll take that bet. I’ll counter that by betting he worships Tim more than most and he couldn’t care what others think.
Apple has a right to protect their copyright and anyone who is financially benefitting from it (and that includes YouTube if it wasn’t him personally) should be held to account. Brendan Shanks should be counting his lucky stars he has only had the channel shutdown and hasn't been taken to court. We could talk about the control Apple have forced, but it could be a hell of a lot worse. Apple have shown restraint here and used DMCA properly, for which it is intended.
Wow, Perry Mason. I thought Raymond Burr was genuinely a paraplegic for years.
Notwithstanding, I agree. Although it annoys me no end that I am supposed to have a TV Licence (£158 per year) to watch BBC even if I’m on the other side of the planet.
Apple should Layoff most of Legal dept - use an automated system for legal stuff.
What most people in this thread have missed (including the article itself apparently) was that Apple did not issue these takedown requests. What usually happens in cases like this is that an independent firm is hired to scan YouTube, Google search, and other sites for copyrighted content, and issue takedown requests at their discretion. These firms fire off takedown requests just to show they're meeting quotas, and sadly end up targeting a lot of fair use content to the point of censorship, or more hilariously content like this that's essentially free marketing for their clients.
Appe should tell Youtube that old WWDC videos are free storage for them. Save lots of money not hosting their historical videos. Southwest Airlines has its own museum in LUV field and is not cheap. Let outsourcing to YT.
Apple doesn't want people to know how affordable their products used to be...
Keynotes might re-surface soon as exclusive content on Apple TV+ 🍏🍏🍏
Cheap way to add content, and to take ad revenue away from Youtube/Google/ABC...
Cheap way to add content, and to take ad revenue away from Youtube/Google/ABC...
Companies thrive on buzz, coverage and public discussion of their products. It creates a warm and fuzzy feeling and a feeling of certainty and trust about products among consumers. Buzzkill takedowns and invisibility of officially sourced and truthful product information, even when those companies do not control distribution, is just bad marketing. Overzealous legal teams need to focus on real revenue and IP theft.