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In my opinion, Obama was not great. Sent us down the path we are on now, lead many strikes in foreign countries, set the stage for overwhelming taxes and overbearing government.

However compared to the Democrats now? He is a knight in shining armor.
I’d say your tax complaint is overblown. Top tax rates were still near lows for the last century. Good gdp growth. Low interest rates. Record streak of job growth. Low inflation. Low border crossings. High deportations. Reduced the deficit with each new budget.

At some point we need to stop obsessing about lowering tax rates and pay our bills instead of pushing it off to future generations.
 
Growth in per capita healthcare spending slowed after passage of the ACA. No ACA was worse.
Says who?

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Apple today confirmed to Reuters that it has acquired Q.ai, an Israeli startup that is working on artificial intelligence technology for audio.
Although Israel previously abolished the death penalty, this year, Israel brought back the death penalty, but only for Palestinians. That is a racist and apartheid policy. And Tim Cook is responsible for this acquisition happening shortly after Israel did that.

Cook is an apartheid profiteer and a genocide profiteer. History should always remember him as such. That should never be forgotten.

Cook’s supporters think apartheid and genocide is OK under the conditions that it results in a CEO fulfilling his “fiduciary duty” to shareholders. In other words, Cook’s supporters think a corporate CEO fulfilling his “fiduciary duty” to maximize profits for shareholders is a greater good than opposing apartheid and genocide.
 
Your information is detached from reality. I'd normally say thanks for the conversation, but this is pretty disturbing ****.
My information is 100% accurate and yes it is disturbing, especially for those who were fooled by that con man.
 

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Although Israel previously abolished the death penalty, this year, Israel brought back the death penalty, but only for Palestinians. That is a racist and apartheid policy. And Tim Cook is responsible for this acquisition happening shortly after Israel did that.

Cook is an apartheid profiteer and a genocide profiteer. History should always remember him as such. That should never be forgotten.

Cook’s supporters think apartheid and genocide is OK under the conditions that it results in a CEO fulfilling his “fiduciary duty” to shareholders. In other words, Cook’s supporters think a corporate CEO fulfilling his “fiduciary duty” to maximize profits for shareholders is a greater good than opposing apartheid and genocide.
Israel instituted the death penalty for terrorists who commit murder, thanks for clarifying that it is the Palestinians who are terrorists.

There is no apartheid in Israel and October 7th was the genocide.

Israeli witness recounts seeing Palestinian civilians laugh as they raped a woman who they pulled out of a car. They then slaughtered her with a knife and continued to rape the dead body, laughing. These civilians then went on to find a couple running away and they butchered the couple with axes and knives. Palestinian civilians came prepared to butcher and torture Jews on October 7 prepared with axes and knives.

“What kind of a depraved monster slices off a woman’s breast while she is being gang raped, and throws it into the dust to be used as a plaything? What kind of a twisted pervert turns rape into necrophilia by shooting a woman in the head while he is still defiling her? What kind of ‘freedom fighters’ go into battle with a set of handy Arabic-to-Hebrew phrases, including ‘take off your pants’, ‘lie down’, and ‘spread your legs’? What self-respecting human being presses nails, scalpels, a hammer, an axe, screwdrivers and other household tools into a woman’s genitals? How hard do you have to rape someone, and with what, to shatter their pelvis? Who shoots a young girl in the face and then films her mutilated corpse on her brother’s mobile phone? The answer is: Hamas terrorists. This is the stark reality of what they did to men, women and children on October 7, 2023. And the world must never forget.”
@WestminsterWAG

John Spencer
100% there is no genocide in Gaza. No eradication project. People confused about what the word means is culturally appalling and dangerous for the future of western society. The confusion has indeed been engineered by people know what they are doing. No genocide does not mean simply too much death and destruction in war. It is about intent and action to destroy a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group, in whole or in part. Sam Harris @MakingSenseHQ
is spot on.

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In a historic first, a Palestinian man has filed a formal complaint with the International Criminal Court demanding that 14 Hamas terrorists be investigated for war crimes committed against the Palestinian people in Gaza.
The 40-page submission marks the first time a Palestinian has sought ICC action against Hamas - despite the court charging Hamas leaders with crimes against Israelis during the war. To date, the ICC has not charged a single Hamas leader with crimes against civilians in Gaza.
The client, a Gazan who lost his wife, children, and other family members in the war, alleges Hamas' use of Palestinian civilians as human shields was “principally responsible for the high death toll and extensive destruction experienced in Gaza.”
 

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Cook is an apartheid profiteer and a genocide profiteer. History should always remember him as such. That should never be forgotten.
Nor should it be forgotten that supposed "America First" politicians have sold out their own movements to support Israel, even getting rid of their own leaders who dare speak out against Israel (Thomas Massie). The Republican, and Democratic Parties are deeply embedded within this process. All modern Presidents, including Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden have followed through with their selling out of the country to fund Israel.

While the American people deal with increased cost of living, inflation, reckless spending, healthcare cuts - the US government is lining the pockets of billionaires, many of who were involved with the convicted child sex offender by the name of Jeffery Epstein.
 
Nor should it be forgotten that supposed "America First" politicians have sold out their own movements to support Israel, even getting rid of their own leaders who dare speak out against Israel (Thomas Massie). The Republican, and Democratic Parties are deeply embedded within this process. All modern Presidents, including Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden have followed through with their selling out of the country to fund Israel.

While the American people deal with increased cost of living, inflation, reckless spending, healthcare cuts - the US government is lining the pockets of billionaires, many of who were involved with the convicted child sex offender by the name of Jeffery Epstein.
Do you think the aid to Israel is going to move the needle in the SJ causes you mentioned? Or is it only the aid to Israel that is causing homelessness, hunger, poor living conditions etc across a wide swath of America. 😉

And I’m glad steve333 clarified the misinformation and disinformation being spread in the thread.
 
Nor should it be forgotten that supposed "America First" politicians have sold out their own movements to support Israel, even getting rid of their own leaders who dare speak out against Israel (Thomas Massie). The Republican, and Democratic Parties are deeply embedded within this process. All modern Presidents, including Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden have followed through with their selling out of the country to fund Israel.

While the American people deal with increased cost of living, inflation, reckless spending, healthcare cuts - the US government is lining the pockets of billionaires, many of who were involved with the convicted child sex offender by the name of Jeffery Epstein.
For F sakes, Israel had nothing to do with Massie being fired.
Massie's sole claim to fame is being a douche. He did nothing for Kentucky or for the Country.
He lost because he pissed off Trump and The Republicans finally had enough of him. AOC, Ro Khanna, Code Pink and other assorted trash are crying over losing their good buddy.
And Massie also collected as much cash as his opponent, including from Iran.
 

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Nor should it be forgotten that supposed "America First" politicians have sold out their own movements to support Israel, even getting rid of their own leaders who dare speak out against Israel (Thomas Massie). The Republican, and Democratic Parties are deeply embedded within this process. All modern Presidents, including Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden have followed through with their selling out of the country to fund Israel.

While the American people deal with increased cost of living, inflation, reckless spending, healthcare cuts - the US government is lining the pockets of billionaires, many of who were involved with the convicted child sex offender by the name of Jeffery Epstein.
Israeli aid is a literal blip out of the Billions we spend.
Let's also clarify that the $3 Billion went right back to us in the form of buying military equipment, which they then improved and gave us the improvements for free. That is a savings of roughly $50 Billion/year not to mention that they had tech we didn't.
Every F-35 we fly is Israeli enhanced, and we don't sell them.
 

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For F sakes, Israel had nothing to do with Massie being fired.
Massie's sole claim to fame is being a douche. He did nothing for Kentucky or for the Country.
He lost because he pissed off Trump and The Republicans finally had enough of him. AOC, Ro Khanna, Code Pink and other assorted trash are crying over losing their good buddy.
And Massie also collected as much cash as his opponent, including from Iran.

The candidate that defeated Massie was funded by Pro-Israeli and Zionist groups. This is just a fact, you can choose to deny it - but that doesn't change what is going on here.


The whole "Iran is bad" and anyone who doesn't like Israel is on the "side of Iran" reeks of projection. That tactic won't work with me.

 
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The candidate that defeated Massie was funded by Pro-Israeli and Zionist groups. This is just a fact, you can choose to deny it - but that doesn't change what is going on here.


The whole "Iran is bad" and anyone who doesn't like Israel is on the "side of Iran" reeks of projection. That tactic won't work with me.

Clara -- there you go again. A correction is in order. Massie lost, in a Republican primary no less, because Donald Trump said that he and his supporters were clowns. More Republicans than not agreed -- for good reason.

Anyway, "Make America Great Again" versus "America First". I, for one, can't keep all the slogans straight. Both kinda sound like "Change We Can Believe In" to me. I'll just state the obvious, tomorrow is not going to be "Morning In America," much to my chagrin.
 
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The candidate that defeated Massie was funded by Pro-Israeli and Zionist groups. This is just a fact, you can choose to deny it - but that doesn't change what is going on here.


The whole "Iran is bad" and anyone who doesn't like Israel is on the "side of Iran" reeks of projection. That tactic won't work with me.

Galreign was funded by multiple groups, those were just two of many. Massie campaigning with a Neo-Nazi probably didn't help, and Massie is hated by most Republicans.
He lost because he sucks, as a Senator and as a human being.
 
Clara -- there you go again. A correction is in order. Massie lost, in a Republican primary no less, because Donald Trump said that he and his supporters were clowns. More Republicans than not agreed -- for good reason.
What's the correction? The other poster stated a fact. You stated an opinion that doesn't contradict that fact.
 
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What's the correction? The other poster stated a fact. You stated an opinion that doesn't contradict that fact.
The correction was an opinion that a candidate lost because of the opposition funding of “pro-Israeli” groups rather than being a bad candidate.
 
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Galreign was funded by multiple groups, those were just two of many. Massie campaigning with a Neo-Nazi probably didn't help, and Massie is hated by most Republicans.
He lost because he sucks, as a Senator and as a human being.
This is a poorly construed way to make an argument. If you want to say something against a candidate, at least provide examples for why he "sucks". Provide me some sources that prove what you are saying. Name some policies of his that "suck".


Massie votes with Republicans 96% of the time. He is your standard Republican. He was taken down by the party because he wanted the Epstein files released, and to take us out of foreign wars. But somehow, according to you, that makes him an "awful human being."

Massie must be doing something right to be called "awful" by the people protecting predators and promoting war.
 
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Not happy with the way this was handled, but it ain't over yet
What are you not happy about? The murder of hundreds of Iranian children? TACO is still threatening to kill more people in Iran and maybe in Cuba too. Just because the US has the bombs doesn't mean you just can bomb people.
 
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What's the correction? The other poster stated a fact. You stated an opinion that doesn't contradict that fact.
Baldi: University of North Carolina? The correction was to the implication that Massie lost because of funding by Jews. Otherwise, why raise the point in the first place?
 
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What are you not happy about? The murder of hundreds of Iranian children?
No the murder of hundreds of Jews.
TACO is still threatening to kill more people in Iran and maybe in Cuba too.
Maybe those countries should stop supplying arms and stop doing bad things.
Just because the US has the bombs doesn't mean you just can bomb people.
I beg to differ. What did Japan do in the 1940s? Or has history been forgotten? It’s not an unheard of precedent.
 
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I beg to differ. What did Japan do in the 1940s? Or has history been forgotten? It’s not an unheard of precedent.
Of course, you would!
Iranian children don't matter, Serbian children don't matter, Gaza children don't matter and so on, as far as American children would be safe. Nice wish!
If TACO start a war with Cuba, hell will fall...
 
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Baldi: University of North Carolina?
I'm not Baldi, and I'm not interested in a personal conversation. No offense.

The correction was to the implication that Massie lost because of funding by Jews. Otherwise, why raise the point in the first place?
1. No, the implication was that Massie's opponent was funded in a large part by pro-Israel groups who don't like his opposition to foreign wars.
2. The idea that spending on the most expensive primary in history had nothing to do with the outcome is laughable.
 
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