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[eltoslightfoot]

May I ask why? Genuine question.

The guy has royally screwed up with breaking campaign promises, failed to fix and also worsened the affordability crisis, etc. It's got to the point where a good chunk of his base ditched him. Does he still have any redeeming qualities? His love for America, sure. But almost everything he has done since this second term is making the country worse. Which is why I'm genuinely puzzled why some are still supporting him.

People act like we get a perfect alternative to the candidate they personally hate here in America. In the end, you have to choose between essentially two people. (And a few other third party candidates that really don't have a shot, that hasn't stopped me from voting for them anyway...)

That's why the disown people who don't like your candidate is so stupid. Like really? It's not like I get to choose the one person who I think could run things. I get candidate a or candidate b. That's it. So if a person really looks at both and likes a even though I like b, I am going to call that person nasty names and disown them? Why? Basically both suck, and you have to try to pick the candidate that you think will suck the least.

For those of us that didn't want either candidate, it's on the parties to get better candidates. The democrat superdelegates absolutely do not help with this process. But neither does the primary process. But even if they fixed all of these things, in the end it's two people.

 

[chmania]

And Israel as well.

Not really, as it was country artificially created by the Europeans (and the US) to get rid of the Jewish problem from Europe.

 

[I7guy]

Not really, as it was country artificially created by the Europeans (and the US) to get rid of the Jewish problem from Europe.

Absolutely. “Stand by the words you use”, I think was the phrase.

 

[chmania]

Absolutely. “Stand by the words you use”, I think was the phrase.

The state of Israel was created on 14 May 1948, just under three years after the end of the Second World War, and Europe gradually shifted the so‑called "Jewish problem" to the Arabs (and the wider world) in the Middle East. European countries with surplus Jewish populations did what they could to move people to the newly established Israel. The Jewish population in Europe declined through the 1960s, 70s and 80s; some cities that once had over 30% Jewish populations now have no Jewish residents at all.

 

[I7guy]

The state of Israel was created on 14 May 1948, just under three years after the end of the Second World War, and Europe gradually shifted the so‑called "Jewish problem" to the Arabs (and the wider world) in the Middle East. European countries with surplus Jewish populations did what they could to move people to the newly established Israel. The Jewish population in Europe declined through the 1960s, 70s and 80s; some cities that once had over 30% Jewish populations now have no Jewish residents at all.

You’re making an “artificial” distinction which is not relevant.

 

[chmania]

You’re making an “artificial” distinction which is not relevant.

I live in such a city: it once had about a 33% Jewish population, and today there is not a single Jewish resident — not even a cemetery or any preserved Jewish historical building. I know of a few such cities.

 

[I7guy]

I live in such a city: it once had about a 33% Jewish population, and today there is not a single Jewish resident — not even a cemetery or any preserved Jewish historical building. I know of a few such cities.

Where one lives is not important to the generalities of what was said above.

 

[chmania]

Where one lives is not important to the generalities of what was said above.

You have no idea, as you live in an island between two oceans.

 

[I7guy]

You have no idea, as you live in an island between two oceans.

To some extent you’re correct. At some point our biases exceed our ability to recognize them.

 

[chmania]

To some extent you’re correct. At some point our biases exceed our ability to recognize them.

Prejudice against Jews persists in parts of Europe, and many Europeans prefer to leave the issue to the Middle East rather than confront it at home, so not to allow another Hitler to happen. Not many like Israel, but as far as it is so far away, it's alright for them. Europe doesn't want Israel to fail, for just one reason.

 

[Alameda]

Then they are no longer necessary as America has its own oil.

You think Exxon and Chevron don’t have billions invested in Mideast oil enterprises? You think the price of oil doesn’t go up when there’s a military crisis in the Mideast?

We obviously don’t have soldiers in Europe to protect against the Germans, and Trump lets the Russians do anything they want. The soldiers are there as a forward staging base into the Mideast. Thats why they’re in Turkey as well. It’s all about oil.

 

[Alameda]

Not really, as it was country artificially created by the Europeans (and the US) to get rid of the Jewish problem from Europe.

What is the “Jewish problem” exactly? Winning too many Nobel Prizes? Too many bagel shops?

 

[eltoslightfoot]

You think Exxon and Chevron don’t have billions invested in Mideast oil enterprises? You think the price of oil doesn’t go up when there’s a military crisis in the Mideast?

We obviously don’t have soldiers in Europe to protect against the Germans, and Trump lets the Russians do anything they want. The soldiers are there as a forward staging base into the Mideast. Thats why they’re in Turkey as well. It’s all about oil.

It's almost like there is more than one reason to do something. That's what I was pointing out. Which there is.

 

[Alameda]

It's almost like there is more than one reason to do something. That's what I was pointing out. Which there is.

Except you did not point out anything, did you?

 

[chmania]

What is the “Jewish problem” exactly?

There was a man called Hitler, and after the war a movement in Europe sought to shift the remaining Jewish population to the Middle East; less than three years after the Second World War there was a mass exodus to the newly formed state of Israel, with the tacit approval of the countries where they had previously lived. In fact, those countries made it difficult for Jews to remain during the 1950s, 60s, 70s and 80s. Many European societies still hold that mindset, even if their leaders do not say so aloud.

By the way, I don't think the United States ever had a Jewish president at any point in its history.

 

[I7guy]

There was a man called Hitler, and after the war a movement in Europe sought to shift the remaining Jewish population to the Middle East; less than three years after the Second World War there was a mass exodus to the newly formed state of Israel, with the tacit approval of the countries where they had previously lived. In fact, those countries made it difficult for Jews to remain during the 1950s, 60s, 70s and 80s. Many European societies still hold that mindset, even if their leaders do not say so aloud.

By the way, I don't think the United States ever had a Jewish president at any point in its history.

Hitler, Franco, Mussolini, Salazar. It’s more than a “Jewish problem” that Europe has.

 

[chmania]

Hitler, Franco, Mussolini, Salazar. It’s more than a “Jewish problem” that Europe has.

You can add every US president since Jimmy Carter. 😉

By the way, it was TACO Monday, today. Usually, it was a Tuesday...

 

[I7guy]

You can add every US president since Jimmy Carter. 😉

By the way, it was TACO Monday, today. Usually, it was a Tuesday...

So you think comparing hitler to jimmy carter isn’t actually trolling the forum?

 

[chmania]

So you think comparing hitler to jimmy carter isn’t actually trolling the forum?

Since means without him 😉

 

[steve333]

May I ask why? Genuine question.

The guy has royally screwed up with breaking campaign promises, failed to fix and also worsened the affordability crisis, etc. It's got to the point where a good chunk of his base ditched him. Does he still have any redeeming qualities? His love for America, sure. But almost everything he has done since this second term is making the country worse. Which is why I'm genuinely puzzled why some are still supporting him.

He closed the border to the Biden Invasion within 2 months, for that alone I give him props.
If Harris was elected how many millions more would have come in?
He put cannabis up for rescheduling, something Biden promised and failed to accomplish.
He has an anti-semitism task force led by Leo Terrell.
Iran needed to be dealt with but they didn't seem to have a coherent plan for removing the regime, which needs to be done.
He is too chummy with Qatar, which is no ally, he needs to get closer to The UAE, which is a real ally.
He has not taken action on getting foreign funding out of Universities and should be doing more to remove Islamists that came in legally thanks to Barry The Deceiver and illegally during DEI Joe.
The Democratic Party meanwhile is campaigning with Hasan Piker who said America deserved 9/11 and is a rabid anti-semite. Democrats endorsed a guy with a Waffen SS tattoo on his chest in Maine who said women should wear kevlar panties to prevent rape, Democrats endorsed an Islamist Communist for Mayor of NYC who is in the process of destroying my hometown.
I preferred Nikki Haley in the primary but Democrats are run by the DSA and are unelectable at this point.
I said a year ago that the Democrats would morph into a Domestic Terrorist Organization within one election cycle. It is happening faster than I thought.
Trump is exhausting, but he's better than any Democrat. IMO.

 

[steve333]

That is, if you can stand by the words you use. The Arabs in the Middle East deserve respect, as does their religion, whatever it may be — they have been there for centuries. Iranians and Iraqis likewise deserve respect, whatever their faiths. The Chinese should be respected too, regardless of their political system, religion or lack of one. That goes for Cuba too!

America was originally settled by people who fled Europe in search of food and occupied land, displacing those already living there. Their descendants seem to have forgotten the world their elders came from and why. Most later arrivals to America sought better lives and opportunities rather than food or to displace indigenous peoples.

We all use devices made in China but often fail to respect the country and its people because of the CCP. China is the most advanced country today. The ironic thing is that it is the US president who must visit with an entourage of businesspeople to seek advantages — not from a position of power, but rather with a begging bowl.

It was the US president who went to meet the Chinese president, not the other way round. The Chinese president will return the visit in September, and that will be merely a courtesy call.

Arabs were some of the biggest colonizers in the World, isn't that anathema to those who hate the U.S. and Europe? They are also the biggest suppliers of terrorism in the World, I find it difficult to respect that.
Iran was a great Country until it was taken over by religious zealots. China is a Dictatorship
You completely gloss over the fact that I mentioned before about Arab colonization, which was far greater than the U.S. ever was. Spain and The UK and France also displaced the Native Americans (who actually came here over the Bering Strait so are not actually native to The Americas.)
China uses State money to control their companies, as such they are not allowed and will not be allowed to compete in free markets.
Trump visiting China showed respect, I thought that's what you wanted?

 

[steve333]

The state of Israel was created on 14 May 1948, just under three years after the end of the Second World War, and Europe gradually shifted the so‑called "Jewish problem" to the Arabs (and the wider world) in the Middle East. European countries with surplus Jewish populations did what they could to move people to the newly established Israel. The Jewish population in Europe declined through the 1960s, 70s and 80s; some cities that once had over 30% Jewish populations now have no Jewish residents at all.

Yet here is the original plan for Israel or as they called it Jewish Palestine. Before WWII
There has never been an independent Palestine, Palestina is a name The Romans came up with.

 

[steve333]

There was a man called Hitler, and after the war a movement in Europe sought to shift the remaining Jewish population to the Middle East; less than three years after the Second World War there was a mass exodus to the newly formed state of Israel, with the tacit approval of the countries where they had previously lived. In fact, those countries made it difficult for Jews to remain during the 1950s, 60s, 70s and 80s. Many European societies still hold that mindset, even if their leaders do not say so aloud.

By the way, I don't think the United States ever had a Jewish president at any point in its history.

Not a very long history and we did have a Jewish Vice Presidential candidate, Joe Lieberman, and when he and Al Gore were running many said they would have preferred Lieberman at the head of the ticket.
McCain almost crossed Parties to choose him for his VP. If he had, he may have won and prevented Barry The Deceiver from becoming President.

 

[BaldiMac]

He closed the border to the Biden Invasion within 2 months, for that alone I give him props.

Biden did most of the work after 45 convinced Republicans not to support their own border control bill. By July 2024, illegal immigration had already fallen 80% from its peak. In fact, border crossings for the last 6 months of Biden's term were lower than when 45 left office.

What 47 did do is ignore US asylum law and create a cruel detention environment to discourage legal migration. In fact, he cut LEGAL migration far more that illegal migration. Because it was never about securing our borders, but xenophobia.

https://www.cato.org/blog/trump-has-cut-legal-immigration-more-illegal-immigration

 

[steve333]

Biden did most of the work after 45 convinced Republicans not to support their own border control bill. By July 2024, illegal immigration had already fallen 80% from its peak. In fact, border crossings for the last 6 months of Biden's term were lower than when 45 left office.

What 47 did do is ignore US asylum law and create a cruel detention environment to discourage legal migration. In fact, he cut LEGAL migration far more that illegal migration. Because it was never about securing our borders, but xenophobia.

https://www.cato.org/blog/trump-has-cut-legal-immigration-more-illegal-immigration

The Bill was not needed as Trump proved.
There were still tens of thousand coming over the border when Trump took Office. He stopped it.
Asylum Laws are ridiculous and taken advantage of, and Rubio is not signing on to the UN's refugee treaty, which is basically the transfer of people who hate the West to the West, as Globailsts want to see.
That's not xenophobia, it's common sense. All you have to do is look at what's happening in Western Europe.