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An insult.

Rather than Apple giving Edu a discount...say 10% off, Apple creates an entirely new marketing campaign to sell stripped down versions of their bottom-of-the-barrel iMac for a whopping $150 off.

Apple has hit a new low with their "take it or leave it" attitude. And Apple wonders why .001% of businesses in the world use Apple computers.
 
Complete junk and an insult.

Rather than Apple giving Edu a discount...say 10% off, Apple creates an entirely new marketing campaign to sell stripped down versions of their bottom-of-the-barrel iMac for a whopping $150 off.

Apple has hit a new low with their "take it or leave it" attitude. And Apple wonders why .001% of businesses in the world use Apple computers.

1 - Apple does give education a discount - both off the normal prices, as well as bulk discounts
2 - "Quietly introduces" = no marketing campaign
3 - The "bottom-of-the-barrel" is $250 off, if you want to be pedantic
4 - Your business estimate is so laughably wrong that it doesn't really require a response, but here it is anyway ;-)
 
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I can't see this being popular, bearing in mind that the vast majority of schools and universities, at least here in the UK, are still based around Windows. And the fact that a model with a vastly better processor is only $150 more.

I go to Ohio State and we have separate computer labs for Windows and Macs for your needs.
 
1 - Apple does give education a discount - both off the normal prices, as well as bulk discounts
2 - "Quietly introduces" = no marketing campaign
3 - The "bottom-of-the-barrel" is $250 off, if you want to be pedantic
4 - Your business estimate is so laughably wrong that it doesn't really require a response, but here it is anyway ;-)

Are you sure the Edu 10% is gone? My Sister IL just used it? Is this for large volume purchases? :apple:
 
I'd be happy with that for work. Probably upgrade the RAM, though. Never understand why Apple won't cater to business in any way.
 
Just checked it out. To get 4 GB of Ram on the educational model will be $90. So for $60 extra, you get faster CPU, bigger hard drive, etc. IMO, the regular 21.5" model available is still a better deal in the long haul.

I work at a middle school and our kids use stuff like iMovie a bit for class. The time we would save with a faster processor would mean a lot to the teachers. It could mean we have to spend less time logging in & out, least time waiting for it to encode movies and more time doing actual research & real work.

I'll admit, with the economy the way it is, people will want to save money, but how much money do we want to save before productivity & quality goes down too much?
 
2GB RAM is "Bad user experience"

Lion is barely usable with 2GB. There should be a law against selling an iMac with only 2GB RAM with Lion. Students will get a bad user experience.
 
Well, those specs can't be true...
apple upgraded all their apple products in their stores to 4GB RAM for better support of Lion...
So they won't sell it with less than 4 GB of RAM...

The only products with less than 4GB RAM at tho moment are:
The lowest 11" Air (but it has ssd, so there is no problem their) (2 GB)
The lowest Mac mini (2 GB)
And the Mac Pro (3GB) but that's a 377 days old machine, so that doesn't count too...

So actually the only Apple product with less than 4GB RAM is the Mac mini, but almost everyone will upgrade it to 4GB for only 99.99€ (or 100$)

You really don't think very well, do you?

I find it a bit perplexing that they'd include a Radeon in this instead of integrated graphics.. could have saved themselves another $50-100... not like students are going to be gaming in the library.

These machines are PLENTY powerful. They're more powerful than the most powerful machine four years ago. (Okay, maybe not an 8-core Mac Pro, but really, does that even count...?)

Yes, 2 GB of RAM is more than enough... most of you seem to really have no idea what is and isn't necessary. And since it's got two cores, and two threads, it's not being split between 4, 8, or 12 cores... just two.

Maybe you guys ought to actually do a little thinking for yourselves before proclaiming all sorts of absolutely ridiculous things. Yes, this may be Apple's bottom of the line machine, but it's still very, very fast. We've progressed quite a bit in the last 10-20 years in computing.... bottom of the line is still more than enough for 80% of computer users.
 
Our school seems to be switching to macs.


I can't see this being popular, bearing in mind that the vast majority of schools and universities, at least here in the UK, are still based around Windows. And the fact that a model with a vastly better processor is only $150 more.
 
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I bought my first Mac last year (MacBook Pro) and I absolutely love it. But I do have to say even a thousand dollars is WAYY more than most (at least most public k-12 schools here in NJ) schools can afford given budgetary constraints and the current economy. If Apple really wants to be competitive, this computer should really be in the $400 range.
 
At the college I attend, they only have iMacs. Most of the students including myself have Macbook Pro's
 
If this really doesn't have ThunderBolt but it has a display port, what a way to cause confusion.

I wish Apple would stop skimping on ports. They did it with the old MacBooks and the iBooks. Always a generation in firewire behind. No wonder these ports don't take off if Apple themselves; within their niche, are offering it as as option in their product lineup.
 
It was a lot easier for people trained in Windows XP to use MacOSX than Windows Vista.
It was a lot easier for people trained in Windows Vista to use MacOSX than Windows 7.
It will be a lot easier for people trained in Windows 7 to use MacOSX than Windows 8.

Time to save lots of cost by switching to an OS that doesn't require expensive training.

Is this a serious post? It can't be.

Windows is Windows, that's the beauty of it. How can it be easier to train someone to use a totally different OS to one they are already familiar with?

If you can use Windows XP, then you don't need to be trained how to use Windows Vista or Windows 7. You just have to learn to use some of the newer features which should take about 10 mins.
 
If this really doesn't have ThunderBolt but it has a display port, what a way to cause confusion.

I wish Apple would stop skimping on ports. They did it with the old MacBooks and the iBooks. Always a generation in firewire behind. No wonder these ports don't take off if Apple themselves; within their niche, are offering it as as option in their product lineup.

These are institutional machines, and low-end ones at that. I doubt 99+% of them will never see an external display. People who want external displays tend to want higher spec'ed Macs as well.
 
I'd be happy with that for work. Probably upgrade the RAM, though. Never understand why Apple won't cater to business in any way.

Because "business" wants things that Apple doesn't want to provide. e.g. future product roadmaps and fixed schedules.

Also, if a corporation went to Apple and said, "we want to buy two thousand of those iMacs," I'm sure Apple would oblige.
 
Why is this news? They've had educational only hardware for a long time.

I can see the new $999 iMac right next to the old $899 iMac.

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2 GB of RAM in 2011? The schools going for this model are likely going to have to factor in a RAM upgrade over the life of their machines.
 
The sad part is that most schools, institutions of higher learning, and informed business will want to keep the machines for a lot longer than 2 years. From a consumer standpoint . . . sure, spend $999 now and then spend another grand in 2 years when your machine starts to show age.

In a budget conscience environment like a school or university, where you're spending more for the software anyhow, you can't justify dropping $999 for 2GB of RAM and a dual core chip then try to upgrade to whole new system in a few years.

When did being an informed or budget conscious business become the sad part?

I'm still working on a 5 1/2 year old Pentium D with 2GB of RAM and Windows XP. It earns just as much per hour for me as would a brand new top of the line Mac.

Do I want a new computer? Sure do. Do I need one yet? No.
 
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