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If the rumors are right, the 6s should be a more significant 's' model upgrade than the 5s was. In other words, the 6s will be the 7th generation iPod touch Apple releases 2-3 years from now.
But the 5 to 5S difference was massive. The performance delta between the A6 and the A7 was staggering, not to mention 64 bit and Metal support. People say the 5S wasn't much of a change but the A6 processor was really the odd one out.
 
What makes you think there will be an iPhone C again?

For a start, the new iPods.
They have a 4'' display, so even Apple thinks there is market for 4''.
When the 5S came out they replaced the old model with a new one and they might do the same this time with a 4'' 6C but I think this is the wrong thread to talk about that
 
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I'm a big fan of apple products yet I didn't experienced to have one because of its price. I love how it has a built-in vpn to be used anytime, anywhere.
 
The US prices you see often don't include taxes. EU prices already have everything included.
This argument has been debated to death, but in the european country I live, the 399$ 128 gb comes for 469€ (about 511$ at present exchange rates).
I don't believe in a 28 % US taxes mark-up
 
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We can say that the sales increase from the 5s to 6/6+ generation was larger than the 5 to 5s sales increase. And if you factor in the general slowing of growth over the past five years, the sales increase from the 5s to 6/6+ was also larger than the sales increase from the 4s to the 5. You can argue that offering two sizes (with current tech) is bound to result in additional sales. But from all the rumours we have heard about the 6 vs 6+ sales split, even the 5s to 6 sales increase was bigger than the previous increases with new generations (and the proper number to compare would be the estimated sales increase from the 5s to the 6 (ie, assuming there would be no 6+), a number that would have been higher than the actual 5s to 6 increase).

BUT you can not compare sales ignoring state of the world - you compare sales ceteris paribus ie. assuming that nothing but size of iphone has changed, whis is not true. Thats all.
 
Apple will eventually run out of specs to put in this 'still cheap' nano, and be forced to increase pricing at some point

Minus the guts of a phone, the retina display, and u do have a iPod Touch :)

Who would have thunk it.
 
BUT you can not compare sales ignoring state of the world - you compare sales ceteris paribus ie. assuming that nothing but size of iphone has changed, whis is not true. Thats all.
Of course there are many factors, for example the growth in China. But then the 6+ is clearly more popular (relative to the 6) in China than in the rest of the world (at least outside of China, South East & Far East Asia), Apple has said so itself. Every 6+ sale is an indication of pent-up demand for large iPhones. If nobody wanted something larger than 4" than certainly nobody would have bought the 6+. Almost all people evaluating the sales numbers closely, trying to factor in all known elements conclude that the offer of large iPhones did meet previously unmet demand and led to an increase in iPhone sales on its own.
 
The iPod nano interface looks archaic.
It's subjective.
I have one. It looks fine. Especially since you don't spend much time on the home screen, nor much time within the apps themselves.

There is no compelling reason why the Nano should look like an iPhone. It is a dedicated portable media player (primarily music) and it is designed for that purpose. And for many, it does it better than the iPod Touch or iPhone can do it. (The iPod Touch is an iPod in name only and essentially a non-phone iPhone.)

Apple has done a masterful job in shepherding their customers away from dedicated devices toward the iPhone. That is evident by many comments posted in this thread by people who don't understand why anyone would want/need a dedicated portable media player.
 
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mp3 player are old mode today -

technilogy step in 2015 - bring something else cool -

ipod is 2007 fashion

no need refresh -
 
For a start, the new iPods.
They have a 4'' display, so even Apple thinks there is market for 4''.
When the 5S came out they replaced the old model with a new one and they might do the same this time with a 4'' 6C but I think this is the wrong thread to talk about that
just seems to me that apple isn't planning on increasing the size of the ipod touch at all and the market for the iPod touch size has nothing to do with the sizes for the phones.
 
mp3 player are old mode today -

technilogy step in 2015 - bring something else cool -

ipod is 2007 fashion

no need refresh -

Just because you don't want it doesn't mean that there is no reason to refresh it. There is still a market and they still sell. It probably took literally no time for Apple do design these things.
 
Umm. I can honestly say it's okay to fill up one's storage on a mobile device with whatever is desired. This is 2015, just another year in the history of discovering how many things one can do with small computing devices. The cloud and streaming both make a big difference in how a lot of people look at storage requirements these days.

As far as photos go, I don't keep many on my iPhone past whatever I shot most recently. Generally I unload them to a laptop, back them up and then delete them from the iPhone.

I'd much rather have a few movies and a couple hundred tracks of music on the phone rather than a zillion photos. But that's probably because a lot of my photos are of fabrics and have no earthly purpose short of going into assorted quilting-project folders that live on my laptop.

When it ocmes to the larger iPad though, I'm not happy with small storage. I like to keep back issues of magazines along with lots of movies, video podcasts, TV shows and some apps that have sizeable chunks of data.

With the smaller mobiles like an iPod touch, I'm more than content with 32GB now, and can even see getting my next iPhone with only 16GB. Traveling light gets easier with the option to let purchases live in the cloud until wanted locally.

But you're a minority.

Every girl I know who has an iPhone (obviously bought the cheapest one, so 16GB) fills up there phone so easily with pictures/videos.

Yes, you can remove them and put them on your computer... but phones nowadays are really the new "pictures of your family in the wallet"... people like having all their photos on their phones, and yes, with cloud capability you can still do this, but the avg. joe or joette, doesn't understand how to do that, it's still challenging to achieve.

I don't know why you are sticking up for a 16GB device being okay to sell... I mean, get real... 16GB SHOULD NOT BE THE BASE. PERIOD.
 
16 GB should definitely not be the base anymore. Even with the cloud, it's kinda ridiculous at this point. Apps are getting bigger. The iOS already takes up a chunk of space. Time to make 32 the base.

Personally, I'd love to see a 4.7" & 5.5" iPod touch.
 
I don't decide what Apple brings to market. I decide what I might ever like to buy of whatever they have on offer! However, if there were no takers of 16GB, it would not be on offer. :)
 
I wonder what are the purchasing stats on the Shuffle and iPod Nano.
Must be strong enough to warrant their survival.
Pity that apart from the colour changes, the prices and even the look of the OS, as mentioned by many people here, are seriously unrealistic in 2015.
 
I was really expecting to buy a Shuffle with more space. Couldn't they just upgrade it to 4gb? So annoying that they had a 4gb once and then stopped.
And the same prices? Come on, you can't call them new when you just painted the ones you already had.
 
mp3 player are old mode today -

technilogy step in 2015 - bring something else cool -

ipod is 2007 fashion

no need refresh -

But earlier in the thread you were complaining that the iPod touch didn't get a bunch of upgrades that you wanted. Get you ideas together and convey them in proper English with correct punctuation if you want to continue spewing them here.
 
16 GB should definitely not be the base anymore. Even with the cloud, it's kinda ridiculous at this point. Apps are getting bigger. The iOS already takes up a chunk of space. Time to make 32 the base.

Personally, I'd love to see a 4.7" & 5.5" iPod touch.
16 should ONLY be the base, if Apple created a new lower price point and put 32 or 64 into the price point the 16 used to be. That way, it gives those who will truly never use much storage an option, and it will also then mean that people who are used to buying at the current 16 GB price point will get a bigger device.
 
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