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Its telling because the newest version of some of they est known software is not being dispayed on their newest "revolutionary" "can't innovate my a$$" product. It seems to show a lack of confidence or a move out of that area for the Mac Pro

Ahh.. Perhaps because you can't actually BUY the Mac Pro yet is the reason they're not promoting it with Logic.... I wouldn't read much into it past that simple point.
 
The new virtual drummer is cool and all, but what Logic really needs are:

1) Virtual guitarist with varying levels of stoned

2) Virtual lead singer with parameterized ego settings
Lol. Yes that would definitely bring it to the cutting edge.
 
Ahh.. Perhaps because you can't actually BUY the Mac Pro yet is the reason they're not promoting it with Logic.... I wouldn't read much into it past that simple point.

They want to sell both products they should be promoting the heck out of them especially since audio production has been a Mac Pro staple.
 
They show the iMac screen because it's also a DISPLAY. Those crying about no Mac Pro love, you want them to show the exact display next to that tower in every pic?
 
A current list of errors from a friend that just tried X.

This is a power user that does things in a way that most wouldn't - but I still found it funny :)

here is a shortlist of weird Logic error messages... haha!

*Circular Structure! | Please report to Apple how you did this... | Try emptying the trash.*

*Damaged project! | Repair Method: Encapsulate|Repair*

*Difficult Structure of Audiodata. Maybe selection is too long?*

*Error | Illegal block size*

*Illegal cable deleted.*

*Illegal column structure*

*Deep Architecture! | Please Unpack some Folders!*

*Illegal Instrument found! | Delete it?*

*Internal Job-Conflict*

*Invalid group name!*

*It is not useful to send MIDI Clock twice to the same port. | The setting will be corrected.*

*Minor correction of project data has taken place.*

*No editor on top*

*No Window found*

*Path too long!*

*Please select just ONE SysEx Event*

*Really copy Movie file? | It might use a considerable amount of disk space!*

*Requested DSP function is unknown.*

*Running out of Regions*

*Some of the selected Nodes failed to connect.*

*Sorry... | This function is not yet implemented.*

*There was nothing to remove!*

*This drive can not be used for audio.*

*This project seems to be damaged. Please open a backup version of this project.*

*This project was created with a newer version.*

*Warning! This project was created by a newer version. | This may cause problems. | Please update*

*To many regions or other error! Please send report to Apple how you did this, or send us this project.*

*Too many positions in Groove*

*Unknown File Error*

*Warning! Memory is short!*

*Warning! | Active MIDI Transmission Buffer overflow.*

*Warning! | Damaged project!*

*Warning: | Unknown event type in project!*

*Warning | Reentrant in multitask*

*Window not found*

*You should stop the sequencer to get a precise Position*

*You should update your UNITOR 8 to the newest version. AMT Level 2 requires AMT Version 2.*

*Zero Cables to insert?*

*Simulation succeeded*

*Thank you for choosing the Velocity Engine button!*

*Couldn't create Launch!*
*^P has allocated dangerously much memory. | Less than 10 MB are available in virtual memory. This can cause crashes. Please use less audio data.*

*An Object cannot be put into itself!*

*Can't top this illegal project*

*Damaged project or not a ^P project! Search for fragments?|Damaged projects might create problems and crashes!*

*Illegal Block Offset.*

*Internal Error | Something strange has happened. | Try to avoid it.*

*Minor problem in data | Repair | OK*

*Not enough memory to create clipboard/Undo! | Should never happen.*

*Nothing to delete. | If you really want to delete a track, you have to create one first.*

*Old style keyboard. | DELETE and recreate it | I will*

*Sorry, too old project format!*

*Too deep Structure!*

*Wrong Version!*

*An FPU instruction was executed and the machine doesn't have one*

*Another computer is currently accessing and modifying your data.*
 
Seriously? I'm tentatively calling bs...

A current list of errors from a friend that just tried X.

This is a power user that does things in a way that most wouldn't - but I still found it funny :)

here is a shortlist of weird Logic error messages... haha!

*Circular Structure! | Please report to Apple how you did this... | Try emptying the trash.*

*Damaged project! | Repair Method: Encapsulate|Repair*

*Difficult Structure of Audiodata. Maybe selection is too long?*

*Error | Illegal block size*

*Illegal cable deleted.*

*Illegal column structure*

*Deep Architecture! | Please Unpack some Folders!*

*Illegal Instrument found! | Delete it?*

*Internal Job-Conflict*

*Invalid group name!*

*It is not useful to send MIDI Clock twice to the same port. | The setting will be corrected.*

*Minor correction of project data has taken place.*

*No editor on top*

*No Window found*

*Path too long!*

*Please select just ONE SysEx Event*

*Really copy Movie file? | It might use a considerable amount of disk space!*

*Requested DSP function is unknown.*

*Running out of Regions*

*Some of the selected Nodes failed to connect.*

*Sorry... | This function is not yet implemented.*

*There was nothing to remove!*

*This drive can not be used for audio.*

*This project seems to be damaged. Please open a backup version of this project.*

*This project was created with a newer version.*

*Warning! This project was created by a newer version. | This may cause problems. | Please update*

*To many regions or other error! Please send report to Apple how you did this, or send us this project.*

*Too many positions in Groove*

*Unknown File Error*

*Warning! Memory is short!*

*Warning! | Active MIDI Transmission Buffer overflow.*

*Warning! | Damaged project!*

*Warning: | Unknown event type in project!*

*Warning | Reentrant in multitask*

*Window not found*

*You should stop the sequencer to get a precise Position*

*You should update your UNITOR 8 to the newest version. AMT Level 2 requires AMT Version 2.*

*Zero Cables to insert?*

*Simulation succeeded*

*Thank you for choosing the Velocity Engine button!*

*Couldn't create Launch!*
*^P has allocated dangerously much memory. | Less than 10 MB are available in virtual memory. This can cause crashes. Please use less audio data.*

*An Object cannot be put into itself!*

*Can't top this illegal project*

*Damaged project or not a ^P project! Search for fragments?|Damaged projects might create problems and crashes!*

*Illegal Block Offset.*

*Internal Error | Something strange has happened. | Try to avoid it.*

*Minor problem in data | Repair | OK*

*Not enough memory to create clipboard/Undo! | Should never happen.*

*Nothing to delete. | If you really want to delete a track, you have to create one first.*

*Old style keyboard. | DELETE and recreate it | I will*

*Sorry, too old project format!*

*Too deep Structure!*

*Wrong Version!*

*An FPU instruction was executed and the machine doesn't have one*

*Another computer is currently accessing and modifying your data.*
 
You have no idea how complex his arrangements/environments are.

But assuming that Logic X (first release) is bug-free when opening ALL older projects is laughable.

v9 states it can open v6 and newer, but vX can open v5? I guess all those aftermarket 32bit plugins will simply be crossed out.

On the plus side:
Can finally write to quicktime movie in 64-bit mode.
 
Any indications of improvements in performance? A similar implementation of FCP X's "pre-rendering and calculation" in Logic Pro?

If yes, this would be a massive boon for my 2010 MBA (2GB Ram!!) that is just barely able to work with 150+ tracks!!

The minimum RAM requirement is 4 Gigabytes so you're out of luck.
 
Most important: Is the sound engine updated? Until Logic 9 it was stuck in the 80's and sounded like crap compared to other modern DAWs. You could even hear artefacts in fade-outs or effect plug-ins.

Are you listening through a ghetto blaster connected via mono mini jack to rca's or summink? This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read in these forums. Seriously. A significant portion of the worlds music is created within Logic.

You must have some bad ears. Get a grip on yourself.
 
Midi readout no longer shows what chord you played

I've read that it's still there, probably just moved or turned on and off with a setting somewhere.

I was referring to all previous versions

And I was referring to the new version. You didn't notice that this thread is about the new version that was just released? And I find it hilarious that now I'm somehow an apple apologist, I constantly rip Apple a new one when they deserve it (which is way more often than it should be).

Because...

I wasn't asking you, he said I was misinterpreting what he said and I wanted him to clarify.

...for the Mac Pro...

So you did come to this thread just to whine (again) about the MP after all. Not sure why you bothered with the evasion.

In case you haven't noticed, the MP isn't released and won't be for a few months. It's not the "newest" mac, it's an unreleased one.

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Seriously? I'm tentatively calling bs...

And you're absolutely right.

That list is taken from a post back in 2008 listing every wacky error message that had ever been seen in Logic. Exact same list, even in the same order.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1564564?start=0&tstart=0

But assuming that Logic X (first release) is bug-free when opening ALL older projects is laughable.

Nobody has ever said that it's bug free. He just called you a liar. Which it turns out, you are.


And people say I'm a fanboi because I'm skeptical about claims of bugginess based on one screenshot of an error and no other specifics. Hoookaay….
 
And you're absolutely right.

That list is taken from a post back in 2008 listing every wacky error message that had ever been seen in Logic. Exact same list, even in the same order.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1564564?start=0&tstart=0

Yeah - figured that couldn't be from the new version. And on top of that it doesn't even include my favorites: "Reentrant in Uperiodic!" and this one: http://arvidtp.net/dropbox/screenshots/weird-logic-6-error.png

On a more serious note: I'm curious how well the FCPX integration works - how does it handle audio in compound or multicam clips? Main storyline vs. attached clips?
 
Oh well, so much for trusting my friend. A smack heading his way.

I do like how the folders clean up the arrange, though.

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Not only do we get to enjoy the "serial whiners", don't think for a minute that the competition is taking this lying down. Part of corporate warfare these days is waging wars in forums/blogs. You discredit the enemy's product by hiring "poster boys". Happens all the time...just ask SamSung.

I think Logic Pro X looks great and I will be getting both it and a new Mac Pro this fall.

Would you like some cheese with your whine?....:p
 
Are you listening through a ghetto blaster connected via mono mini jack to rca's or summink? This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read in these forums. Seriously. A significant portion of the worlds music is created within Logic.

You must have some bad ears. Get a grip on yourself.
Maybe you do? Thanks for insulting me for raising a valid question... And maybe you are the one being way less professional than he wants to be.

The poor dithering of Logic is a well known and widely discussed subject among (really) professional audio engineers... Google is your friend.

Sorry, that YOU didn't hear about it... ;-)
 
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