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thanks everyone, for answering my lay questions.

One more. My ancient 15" MBP has 1440 x 900. But I'm planning on a 13" this time, and technically, isn't 1280 x 800 on a 13" actually a bit MORE resolution?

I've also got tired old eyes, and I've heard that 1440 x 900 (were I to wait for it or get an air now) on a 13" can be hard to read. If so, can I assume the main benefit of higher resolution is watching video or looking at photos?

Thanks again for your help.

Here is a helpful chart on this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_resolution
 
Yes, because anything with an Apple on it, despite most likely being manufactured in a very similar way to the competitor's item and containing the same parts, is somehow still better :confused:

The only thing better about the Apple is that it has OS X on it, though you can technically put that on a dell :)

I take it you have never taken one apart? I was an Apple hater up until around 6-7 years ago when I was told I needed to be able to support them for work. Internally at least from an engineering standpoint they are a work of art. No last minute jumping or awkward cable runs, logical component layout with nearly no plastic save for the cable shielding and a stable chassis with very little if any flexing. Working on my first 2 macs was enough to make me covet the hardware, after I finally bought one and gave OSX another shot (I had switched to PC's back in the 7.5 days) and have never looked back. The only Windows based notebooks I would even put in the same category quality wise are the higher end Vaio's, I still work mostly on PC's though and have repaired them all from low end hp's to high end XPS's and there is just no comparison.
 
just spoke to apple sales - they didn't know if the hdd has been updated to sata 3! at first (s) he said yes.. but would check to make sure
i asked if 256/512GB ssd was sata 3 - answer 2

then

as soon as i mentioned my intent - owc ssd and SF2000 they went quiet and stated their systems down - pls come back later

chat client - hung

no good bye/ thanks

-plain rude-

<reaches for handkerchief and cries my eyes out>

so any apple techies know this - i have my credit card waiting!!!!!
:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
 
Why is the online store taking so long to populate!

Im trying to buy the 17" and 13"!!!!

Im not sure whether to buy the 13" MBA or MBP??

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
 
No DVD/Blu-ray/Optical drive?

I don't see an optical drive listed on the features, and none of the pictures show the right edge of the MACs.

That would be a deal breaker for me -- one of the reasons I didn't get an Air.
 
Noticed that too. Hoping either:

1) It was 7 hours before, and I'm misremembering.

2) It's a typo.

If the battery life for the 13-inch laptops has indeed *dropped* 3 hours, I'm totally skipping these.

I know right. People with jobs don't have to worry about 7 hours battery life we have lives.
 
Is 59.7 fps bad for low settings?

Everything > 30 FPS is nearly impossible to recognize for the human eye (i.e. too fast). That is the reason, why most movies are available @ 30 FPS or less. The european norm for the framerate in movies and other TV productions is 25 FPS, and i heard not many complaints about this framerate.
 
Refresh

So just a refresh then. Sounds like a new form factor will probably come into play in 2012 - perhaps liquid metal? And perhaps then they'll drop the super drive to get it lighter and thinner. I'll wait.
 
Apple goes for the profit margins. That is what they do. They would put in a 100 rpm HD if they could save $3.00 and people would buy it.

The Apple Stores are full of people and the other stores in the mall are not.
 
I don't see an optical drive listed on the features, and none of the pictures show the right edge of the MACs.

That would be a deal breaker for me -- one of the reasons I didn't get an Air.

In in the specs - for now... ;)

http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/specs.html

*QUESTION

Sorry, didn't read through the posts - what happens if you want to hook up a display AND a new Thunderbolt device at the same time? :eek:
 
1. Give them time to update the TN!

They've had plenty of time, the iMacs have been using ATI chips in like forever.

2. VLC/MPlayer DO NOT use functions from this framework. The Video LAN Project plans it for a future version. It depends all on the ffmpeg-project, and these people had to solve some internal problems in the past months.

Err.. I did use the word "implementing", as in, "DO NOT use, will in a future version". ;) Next time, don't be so quick to jump down someone's throat when you're in fact just not understanding the post.
 
Not funny at all. Very logical. Blu-Ray is dead. It was dead on arrival. The future is streaming and cloud storage. I donated all my DVDs and gave away my Blu-Ray player and my video consumption is so much easier and more organized now. Everything stores on my external 2TB and streams to my Apple TV or syncs to my iPhone/iPad. Yes it's 720p, but I don't care. haha. Why would anyone want to hoard a bunch of discs. Unless you use them as coasters.

Uhh..I know this is a discussion for another thread, but they started it....

I agree that it might not make the most sense to incorporate blu-ray into the macbook pro, because watching movies that way while on the go would require you to carry around physical discs (but i'd really use it to rip the discs onto my computer rather than trying to find an alternate source ;)), but I still think it would be a nice BTO option. There's already an optical drive there, might as well make it blu-ray. I'm not sure I want to stream much of any HD content right now, especially from netflix because their HD quality blows. And while my current internet speed can handle 1080p off YouTube, again, that content is nowhere close to the quality of 1080p blu-ray. So, this future you speak of, does exist, but until ISPs can provide people with an affordable option for handling blu-ray quality content, service providers like iTunes and Netflix will continue to offer inferior products.
 
I know right. People with jobs don't have to worry about 7 hours battery life we have lives.

Unless your job revolves around using your laptop 8-10 hours a day...you know it really is ok to like Apple and still not reach for excuses to defend them if there is something that really is negative. If the battery life has indeed dropped it is in no way a "win" regardless of whether you have a life or not...at best its a tradeoff for performance but will undoubtedly be a disappointment for some.
 
Relieved I can skip this one. i5 is nice, but still stuck on 1200 x 800, the graphics "upgrade" is negligible (if it exists at all) and Thunderbolt is not ubiquitous enough yet to be an essential. The resolution is a deal-killer. The 13' Air has 1440 x 900, so why not the "Pro"? Don't feel so bad about sticking with my mid-2010 until next summer now, or even longer if there's a redesign coming. SSD prices should be somewhat reasonable by then, too.

(The 7 hour is probably is probably longer, though, as they're not making silly claims as much as they used to. I never get the advertised 10 "wireless-web". It's usually a little more than half that.)
 
Unless your job revolves around using your laptop 8-10 hours a day...you know it really is ok to like Apple and still not reach for excuses to defend them if there is something that really is negative. If the battery life has indeed dropped it is in no way a "win" regardless of whether you have a life or not...at best its a tradeoff for performance but will undoubtedly be a disappointment for some.

The battery life has not dropped at all. They are just reporting the life more accurately. This has already been discussed.
 
Apple goes for the profit margins. That is what they do. They would put in a 100 rpm HD if they could save $3.00 and people would buy it.

The Apple Stores are full of people and the other stores in the mall are not.

Clearly, they have been riding that fame wave for the past 5 years now. When I bought my MacBook Pro in 2007, their prices were actually competitive.
Today, you pay a huge premium for OS X.
 


While not all the rumors leading up to the launch were true, many of the last minute leaks were accurate, and Apple still managed to sneak in a few surprises.

Apple launched the new MacBook Pros this morning after much anticipation. For the first time ever, Apple has included Quad Core CPUs into their notebooks. The 15" and 17" models offer Quad Core CPUs using the Intel 2.2GHz Quad Core 2720QM and 2.0GHz Quad Core 2630QM. While many applications may not take advantage of all 4 cores, these new Sandy Bridge processors include Intel's Turbo Boost 2.0, which should increase the speed of the remaining cores when the others are underutilized.The maximum Turbo clock speeds for the 2720QM and 2630QM are 3.2GHz and 2.9GHz respectively.

Apple has also introduced a hybrid Thunderbolt/mini Display port on the new MacBook Pros. This represents Intel's Light Peak technology which is said to offer high speed connections and is expected to replace the need for USB 3.0. We expect to hear more about it this afternoon at Intel's press conference. From Apple's PR:
The new models are at the Apple Store:

(Still filling in specs, as we get them)

Article Link: Apple Launches MacBook Pros with Thunderbolt, Quad Core CPUs, AMD GPUs

Definitely not regretting the decision to step up to a 15" Pro with this refresh (whereas I had been previously saving for a 13" Pro). It's rad that they even gave the 13" an i7, but Intel HD 3000 doesn't make up for it in my book.

And oh look! The Optical Drive didn't go away!!! Fancy that! (Sorry would-be 13" Pro power-users, there weren't enough of you anyway.)

All in all, it looks rad. I'm stoked. Here's hoping I can turn my already saved $1250 into the $2200 needed for the higher-end 15" before the next refresh.
 
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