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I dont see how hype based on fanboy speculation can be blamed on Apple. None of the sky high wishes and dreams posted over the past few weeks have come directly from Apple.

Sorry, industry analysts, Wall Street Journal and other media publications are not fanboy speculation.
 
Thinking "out of the box" (sic!), what about adding external graphics card solutions through Thunderbolt? It's related to pci-express after all, right?
 
Happy for those waiting for a Quad i7 Macbook Pro but with those crappy GPU options on the lower end 15in I'm happy with my current model.

I'm still hoping for the day when the baseline 15in comes with a real mid-range GPU/512MB and the higher end comes with 1GB.
 
I know right. People with jobs don't have to worry about 7 hours battery life we have lives.
Ouch. I understand your point, but I work as a software developer. Running Xcode, the iPhone simulator, my own debugged application, all while compiling/analyzing code isn't going to give me 7 hours of battery life, more like 3-4 realistically.

If Apple's numbers were around 10 hours, that would mean more like 4.5-5.5 for my uses. That's less time I have to spend at my desk or near a charger. 7 hours of battery life is nothing to scoff at, but I was initially under the impression that this was less than the previous revision. It sounds like it's actually on par, given Apple's new battery testing standards.
 
Im frustrated they didnt offer the superdrive removal. id much rather pay for a quad core upgrade than have to buy an optibay caddy and HDD and do that myself [plus spend $90 for the 128GB SSD, which is a pretty amazing deal most of those SSDs are $200 on the market]. I just bought the 128 GB SSD and ordered an MCE optibay caddy and a WD 750 GB 7200 RPM Caviar black HD. i pray the caddy fits the new one
 
750 @ 5400?

The $2199 15" comes with a 750gb @ 5400 or you can swap for the same price a 500gb @ 7200. What kind of speed trade off are we talking about here?

How does the SSD speeds compare to that? I'd never fork over the $1100 for a 512 SSD, but I'm curious how that compares.
 
That's 11 years in a row we've had a silver mac laptop. I hope the rumours of a complete redesign next year are true and we might finally see a different colour, preferably all black like the recent mockups.
 
The $2199 15" comes with a 750gb @ 5400 or you can swap for the same price a 500gb @ 7200. What kind of speed trade off are we talking about here?

How does the SSD speeds compare to that? I'd never fork over the $1100 for a 512 SSD, but I'm curious how that compares.

SSD is significantly faster, no contest.
 
Tell us what your requirements are and then people can give you proper advice...

Need for photo editing on the 17" MBP

Emails and excel and word stuff plus internet surfing.

but thinking 13" MBP over 13" MBA as pretty much same cost yet i assume MBP is faster?? Obviously not as mobile and of course the weight difference which i'm not that worried about.
 
The $2199 15" comes with a 750gb @ 5400 or you can swap for the same price a 500gb @ 7200. What kind of speed trade off are we talking about here?

How does the SSD speeds compare to that? I'd never fork over the $1100 for a 512 SSD, but I'm curious how that compares.

SSDs are significantly faster. The 7200 would be marginally faster.
 
so no change to dimensions and weight at all, correct?
meh, i'll stick with my late 2008 macbook until next year (hoping for a complete redesign) OR get the air when lion comes out.
 
Err.. I did use the word "implementing", as in, "DO NOT use, will in a future version". ;)

If you really mean that, then say it!

Next time, don't be so quick to jump down someone's throat when you're in fact just not understanding the post.

I understood it. You did say VLC/Mplayer implement functions from this framework, which is not true. The ffmpeg-project does it, and the Video LAN Project devs are the first developers which will use the new API via ffmpeg. I'm sure MPlayer will follow.
 
I already mentioned this, but the battery life probably hasn't gone done. When the released the new MBAs they used new, realistic benchmarks. 6 - 7 was realistic for the 2010 MBP. I know, it's what I'm typing this one.



Huh?

"If you’re a video editor, imagine connecting high-performance storage, a high-resolution display, and high-bit-rate video capture devices to handle all the post-production for a feature film — right on your notebook. Thunderbolt I/O technology allows you to daisy-chain up to six new peripherals, such as the Promise Pegasus RAID* or LaCie Little Big Disk,* or five peripherals and an Apple LED Cinema Display."

Unless I'm missing something, you can daisy chain to anything you can have an adapter go to. The monitor appears to just have to be the last item in the chain.

http://www.apple.com/thunderbolt/

Sorry 'bout that, posted as I was still reading the thread. I underestimated its length and growth factors. Am I delusional or does the forum only show like one page ahead?

Anyway, I just thought about terminating the chain with the cinema display after I posted. However, while it'd work, there are still concerns I'd have:

1. You can't currently chain two monitors together. Granted this is no worse than before and eventually self-rectifying once somebody makes an official Thunderbolt monitor.

2. It's a minor nitpick but I'd prefer to choose where something is on the chain for organizational and maybe stability purposes. If I have the heavier components on the ends of the chain, they're more likely to bring everything else down with them if I knock them over. It'd be nice to have a Magsafe style Thunderbolt breakaway cable for the heavier stuff.

3. Oh right, having only one chain may be difficult to manage since you have to rope it all around and failure prone if the one port breaks. I wish Wish they killed off Firewire 800 here and now to make room for another TB port since the pros (not me) won't need FW800 once the new stuff comes out, consumers don't use it very often and most items will have USB 2 to make due with in the meantime.
 
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very disappointed. lose NVIDIA and get useless thunderbolt. I ordered 13" new one anyway and return the old one just bought last week.
 
The $2199 15" comes with a 750gb @ 5400 or you can swap for the same price a 500gb @ 7200. What kind of speed trade off are we talking about here?

How does the SSD speeds compare to that? I'd never fork over the $1100 for a 512 SSD, but I'm curious how that compares.

SSDs also have no moving parts which increase the durability of the drive in the event that you drop your computer...although i think the option is waaaay overpriced...now if they could offer a 1 TB SSD for maybe half of that price, I would be on board.
 
Nonsense!

No "Pro" user uses a 13" MB(P) for serious work.

Heh, this made me laugh. I'm a "Pro" and use only a 13.3" screen on the road. For those of us that routinely make 36+ hour flights crammed in the tiny spaces, 13" fits the space *exactly.* 15" is too big and requires some juggling. Traveling to crazy locations usually means traveling as light and small as possible, again, 13" is a perfect sweet spot between too small and too large. There are a lot of "pros" that work just fine and put out amazing work on such machines.

My biggest gripe is that the "Pro" moniker means less and less as far as actual professionals are concerned. IMO, these are mostly all just Macbooks, especially the 13" models. Separate the lines into consumer and pro, properly.
 
I really hope they don't change the look of the macbook pro too much with the "new design" in 2012..I think it looks perfect the way it is!
 
For those that are curious, the base 15" may actually have worse performance than the previous MBP. If you are at all about games, you have to go for the 6750.
 
This is a great update. The only lacking item is the display res on the 13" but it's a 13" display! It's like the foolishness of 1020P on a 20" television. Sure it could be better, but find me a professional that would use a display that size for video or the like. And no, don't say you're one because that is an admission you're not a professional. And azeroth doesn't need to be that crisp. :)

It's the price hike that's awful. I guess we all get used to Apple updating and maintaining a price point, but the $1799 price of admission on the 15" puts me out.
 
Nonsense!

No "Pro" user uses a 13" MB(P) for serious work.

BS! why should i carry with me anything bigger than 13"? It's a ****ing laptop not a portable desktop. I carry my lappie everywhere with me, when at home it's connected to 42" LCD. I would never ever buy a laptop with larger screen, what for?
 
I'm pretty upset over the new 13" MBP, no upgrade for the display and i was really hoping for an ssd upgrade after hearing last weeks rumors. Well, i sold my 2010 13 " MBP on eBay ($1025) and now im headed over to the apple store to get the new one. :):)

15" and 17" are too big for me, though i'm jealous of there Quad-core processors.

Overall it was a disappointing "refresh" by apple, especially for the 13" MBP. ITS A PRO MODEL, it should have at least have a better display than the 13" air, wtf were their engineers thinking :mad:

Now to find my credit card, lol
 
Once again, Apple has failed to put out a compelling product. I've been a Mac user for the last 25 years, and will continue to be so. However, I see no compelling reason to update from my 2006 17" 2.33 C2D and will likely purchase a Windows computer to meet my mobile needs.

While I'm willing to pay a premium for build quality and a, in some measures, superior OS, the price and lack of features on these machines just cannot be justified. Some here are saying that you can't find anything else out there for the same price, but this is because other manufacturers have yet to release their new models (due to the chip revisions). Just wait a few weeks and you will see laptops with far superior specs in the market for several hundred dollars less.

Apple really needs to get with the program and learn that their marketing alone isn't going to sell laptops. They need to sell a competitive machine at a competitive price or they will eventually lose all the market share the have gained.
 
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