I too use a 13" for real work, i am constantly moving from office to office, the 13" was the best choice for me as far as weight and portability, most of the people I know that go with the 15 and 15" models dont really use their notebooks as portable devices, they occasionally carry it to and from work but it generally just sits on a single desk all day.
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Apple Launches MacBook Pros with Thunderbolt, Quad Core CPUs, AMD GPUs
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I too use a 13" for real work, i am constantly moving from office to office, the 13" was the best choice for me as far as weight and portability, most of the people I know that go with the 15 and 15" models dont really use their notebooks as portable devices, they occasionally carry it to and from work but it generally just sits on a single desk all day.
It's about what I'd pay to get them installed from a third party vendor. Developer discount FTW.
I can't get past the fact they didn't increase the resolution of the 13" to 1440x900 to match that of the MacBook Air. Not even as an extra cost option.
Yea that was a freaking slap in the face for me, what the hell was apple thinking.
Before you pencil in a major redesign for 2012, remind yourself that, merely two nights ago, such a redesign was rumored for today. Don't get me wrong, it could very well happen. But, certainly don't refrain from picking up one of these MBPs on the basis that a redesign is a foregone conclusion for 2012.
This isn't a terrible refresh. This is the sharpest processor improvement the 13-inch Macbook has ever seen, yet it isn't getting any love. Without question, it is the least loved child in the Apple notebook family. Last time, it was not endowed with the Arrandale processors, this time it was not endowed with discrete graphics. In my estimation, 2010 was worse for it. It may be stuck with the Intel IGP (not terrible anymore) but at least this go round it's sporting 2010/2011 internals, as opposed to a 2007(?) processor.
I presume the battery testing is different. Referring to Laptopmag reviews, the 2010 13" MBP outlasted the 2010 13" Air by an hour and 12 minutes. I think the true reason for more rigorous testing, however, is that Apple doesn't want the MBP to have better battery life than an ultraportable, like the Air. Would be bad PR for their beloved Air. By the same token, Apple has no qualms that BOTH Air models are equipped with better resolution screens than the smallest "Pro" model. Any question which computer Apple favors?
This isn't a terrible refresh. This is the sharpest processor improvement the 13-inch Macbook has ever seen, yet it isn't getting any love. Without question, it is the least loved child in the Apple notebook family. Last time, it was not endowed with the Arrandale processors, this time it was not endowed with discrete graphics. In my estimation, 2010 was worse for it. It may be stuck with the Intel IGP (not terrible anymore) but at least this go round it's sporting 2010/2011 internals, as opposed to a 2007(?) processor.
I presume the battery testing is different. Referring to Laptopmag reviews, the 2010 13" MBP outlasted the 2010 13" Air by an hour and 12 minutes. I think the true reason for more rigorous testing, however, is that Apple doesn't want the MBP to have better battery life than an ultraportable, like the Air. Would be bad PR for their beloved Air. By the same token, Apple has no qualms that BOTH Air models are equipped with better resolution screens than the smallest "Pro" model. Any question which computer Apple favors?
Finally a voice of reason.
This is very simple:
Apple puts out a product..
you like....you buy
you don't like, you don't buy
The end
So what's the point of having this thread. i thought it was to allow people to comment. but you fanboys just hate it when the comment is negative
Just because iZombies eat brains doesn't mean they have any.
Hannah and Justin don't care about screen resolution.
Since this is the first time they've jammed an i7 into the 13" MBP, I'm going to wait for the next refresh before I think about getting a new one... My old 13" Core2Duo will be fine for another year or so After all, I've got meh new iMac to help out with the heavy loads...
After all, I've got meh new iMac to help out with the heavy loads...
Regardless, they will sell in record numbers and Apple will gain market share. Every business would love to have customers like Apple.
Yeah, he could put it in the bank and earn 0.01% on it or risk losing it all on the stock market if he needs more.
Are you on drugs?
Biggest performance gain EVER?
800% faster
The Fboys are alive and well on this thread!
when they say 7 it will be 5.
my MBP say 9 I get 6
They are apparently calculating the battery times in a new way, like true life or something, which should be closer to the 7 hours as stated. Let's wait for someone with a new mbp to test it out.
don't bother upgrading to 2.3ghz. Too overpriced for such a small bump in clockspeed that you probably wouldn't notice. I'd take the ram upgrade over the cpu upgrade. But what do you do on your computer that uses 8 gb of ram? Most people would be fine with 4 gb.
Finally, a worthy upgrade!
...that is, for the high-end 15" and 17"!
I am almost sold on a 17" with 2.3GHz i7 and anti-glare (8GB RAM, SSD, 750GB 7200RPM HDD, and Win7 license coming separately). Catch is that the prices are back up to their older levels, making my dream config about US$3300 with education discount
Time to wait for refurbs (whether they be for this model or upcoming iMacs), I guess.
My only complaints on these two models are the lack of 750GB 7200RPM HDD option and the status of the 6750 (it could be a different chip AKA iMac 2010, down-clocked, etc.)
As for the other models...they're not even worth my time. AAPL clearly gave in to demands for more CPU power at the cost of the GPU, which is quite a reversal from the C2D situation last year.
...that is, for the high-end 15" and 17"!
I am almost sold on a 17" with 2.3GHz i7 and anti-glare (8GB RAM, SSD, 750GB 7200RPM HDD, and Win7 license coming separately). Catch is that the prices are back up to their older levels, making my dream config about US$3300 with education discount
Time to wait for refurbs (whether they be for this model or upcoming iMacs), I guess.
My only complaints on these two models are the lack of 750GB 7200RPM HDD option and the status of the 6750 (it could be a different chip AKA iMac 2010, down-clocked, etc.)
As for the other models...they're not even worth my time. AAPL clearly gave in to demands for more CPU power at the cost of the GPU, which is quite a reversal from the C2D situation last year.
You can try to spin it like you want, it still remains this one way hyped up released and this hype is the cause of the disappointment and whining you see today. That Apple was responsible or not for the hype doesn't change that fact.
When MacRumors posted 6 threads in 2 hours that were essentially just pure speculation, you should have known it was coming and stayed in bed today to not see all the whining that was going to happen when Apple didn't "deliver" on any of the "promises" they never made.
Again, I made no claims that Apple hyped up the release, I don't know why you want to argue that point. The media did, be it some fanboys or industry analysts and journalists claiming to cite "sources".
Hey, im happy about the processor upgrade and new thunderbolt feature, i'm just surprised they didn't upgrade the 13" display. I use my MBP mainly to watch movies and college work. So the resolution upgrade was something i and many others expected.
It's called Entitlement Syndrome. In the US, welfare recipients and union workers are afflicted with this.
@ people crying about hours of battery:
Apple just changed their testing methods, NOT a worse battery or more power consuming hardware.
Look at the white MacBook, they changed it from 10 to 7 hours for that model too and certainly wasn't refreshed hardware wise.
Apple just changed their testing methods, NOT a worse battery or more power consuming hardware.
Look at the white MacBook, they changed it from 10 to 7 hours for that model too and certainly wasn't refreshed hardware wise.
I am a little confounded by today's updates. I was hoping for a 13" MBP with a 1440x900 display. When I take photos on the road I like to preview them and do some quick and dirty editing. I typically upload finished photos in two resolutions - 1280x853 and 854x569. I was hoping that I would be able to view the higher of those two resolutions at actual size. A 1280x800 screen means I can't do that.
I could opt for the 13" Air, but I really need more storage and CPU power when importing and chewing on 1,200+ RAW images per day. So it looks like the 15" is going to be my best choice, which is not ideal due to its size and weight.
If Apple had only udpated the 13" MBP to a 1440x900 display then it would have been right in the sweet spot. Not a big deal, but it may delay my purchase for a while longer.
I think the reason of this kick azz 
update/refresh is because the world bad economy...no one will go and buy a laptop just for the fun...now want to force us to bye... I do believe that the economy was in good shape you and I will see a less update on this new Macbook Pro's...
hmm, how bad I want one .i..
update/refresh is because the world bad economy...no one will go and buy a laptop just for the fun...now want to force us to bye... I do believe that the economy was in good shape you and I will see a less update on this new Macbook Pro's...hmm, how bad I want one .i..
So, MBP 13"?
2006 HP laptop owner looking to purchase my first Macbook. Will not use it for gaming. Will use it for work (which entails lots of word processing, spreadsheets, powerpoints, etc.), for the web and for video editing (but nothing too heavy, although HD, the videos are just family home movies). Wondering whether, base on my intended uses, there is any need at all to get the better resolution/graphics card available in the MBP "15. Also wondering whether I should just get the MBA "13 (originally passed on it and waited for this refresh because I was told that storage capacity was lacking on the MBA and even light video editing would be annoying). Would love to hear thoughts from any of you experts as to what I should get.
2006 HP laptop owner looking to purchase my first Macbook. Will not use it for gaming. Will use it for work (which entails lots of word processing, spreadsheets, powerpoints, etc.), for the web and for video editing (but nothing too heavy, although HD, the videos are just family home movies). Wondering whether, base on my intended uses, there is any need at all to get the better resolution/graphics card available in the MBP "15. Also wondering whether I should just get the MBA "13 (originally passed on it and waited for this refresh because I was told that storage capacity was lacking on the MBA and even light video editing would be annoying). Would love to hear thoughts from any of you experts as to what I should get.
I've been waiting...for a Mac like you...
First time posting. Take most of what's below with grain of salt, please...
First of all, I just wanted to thank MacRumors for the the good info regarding the MBP new release. A Mac expert turned me on to this site, and the rumors saved me from buying an older model a couple weeks a couple of weeks ago.
Many thanks also for those who post solid info regarding the new releases.
Second, what is up with all the whiners that this is not enough of an upgrade? You sound like my 4 year old kid: "not enough peanut butter with my jelly...waah..." Gen X kids these days...or are we up to gen Z yet? Ehh, back in my day, we had Heath Kit computers and we programmed in Benton Harbor Basic....and we LIKED it!
Third, why are all these PC lovers on here comparing and contrasting--don't they have their own sites? A Yugo has 4 wheels and it is technically still a car--perhaps too extreme an analogy, but only to drive home the comparison.
And fourth, I guess I got so excited, I had to tell somebody: I just pulled the trigger on a fully pimped out MBP 17" ride complete with chandeliers on the fenders (John Carpenter "Escape from New York" reference, for those of you born after 1981--if you have an optical drive, you ought to rent it).
This is a serious machine they came out with today: I'm able to run CAD and Aperture simultaneously while on the go. I have a hunch that it's going to be warp speed 9 compared to my seven year old dell laptop--i guess abstaining from the tech flavor of the month gave me a chance to save. that's a tip kids, write it down...
Fifth and last: Be well Steve, we love you, man...
Well, I better get out of these forums, now that I'm getting my machine. I mean sometimes, it's like a Tourette's convention in here...lol, peace out and all that good stuff...
First time posting. Take most of what's below with grain of salt, please...
First of all, I just wanted to thank MacRumors for the the good info regarding the MBP new release. A Mac expert turned me on to this site, and the rumors saved me from buying an older model a couple weeks a couple of weeks ago.
Many thanks also for those who post solid info regarding the new releases.
Second, what is up with all the whiners that this is not enough of an upgrade? You sound like my 4 year old kid: "not enough peanut butter with my jelly...waah..." Gen X kids these days...or are we up to gen Z yet? Ehh, back in my day, we had Heath Kit computers and we programmed in Benton Harbor Basic....and we LIKED it!
Third, why are all these PC lovers on here comparing and contrasting--don't they have their own sites? A Yugo has 4 wheels and it is technically still a car--perhaps too extreme an analogy, but only to drive home the comparison.
And fourth, I guess I got so excited, I had to tell somebody: I just pulled the trigger on a fully pimped out MBP 17" ride complete with chandeliers on the fenders (John Carpenter "Escape from New York" reference, for those of you born after 1981--if you have an optical drive, you ought to rent it).
This is a serious machine they came out with today: I'm able to run CAD and Aperture simultaneously while on the go. I have a hunch that it's going to be warp speed 9 compared to my seven year old dell laptop--i guess abstaining from the tech flavor of the month gave me a chance to save. that's a tip kids, write it down...
Fifth and last: Be well Steve, we love you, man...
Well, I better get out of these forums, now that I'm getting my machine. I mean sometimes, it's like a Tourette's convention in here...lol, peace out and all that good stuff...
Maybe they're using the same AlGorerithm for calculating battery life that they used for back dating options.
