Should have been $199. I'm a little stumped why they didn't just lower the 32 GB's price to $240 and call it a day. Maybe add a 16 GB version for $199 or $229. Developers must love it when major hardware features are constantly being added and deleted from devices. Flip-flopping between having a back camera and not having one seems like a real misstep; Even if the 4G's camera was undeniably terrible.
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Apple Launches New 16 GB iPod Touch With No Rear Camera for $229
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Bring this non-feature to ipad!
How about bringing this non-feature to iPad and iPad mini? I can't think of a single time I used my iPads rear camera, and I have the fourth gen with the good camera; it's a waste! I certainly wouldn't be cought using it in public.
If the iPad mini was $299.99 retail without the rear-facing camera, I would be more likely to buy it.
I use the front-facing camera often, but the rear-facing camera is only useful on a point-and-click type of device, such as an iPhone or iPod touch, imho.
How about bringing this non-feature to iPad and iPad mini? I can't think of a single time I used my iPads rear camera, and I have the fourth gen with the good camera; it's a waste! I certainly wouldn't be cought using it in public.
If the iPad mini was $299.99 retail without the rear-facing camera, I would be more likely to buy it.
I use the front-facing camera often, but the rear-facing camera is only useful on a point-and-click type of device, such as an iPhone or iPod touch, imho.
Better getting a 32G refurbished model
Not sure what all the hoopla is about, whilst I've actually been a great fan of the iTouch since launch, have purchased 4 thus far and still do not own a iPhone, having checked the refurbished costs on Apple's website, its actually better value to purchase a refurbished 32G 5th generation model with he rear camera, than to purchase the stripped down iTouch, we are talking all of US$25.00 for 16G more storage and a good rear facing camera - my daughter aged five loves it, indeed, I purchased the 64G model for Christmas, but the 32G would have been sufficient for her needs for now - just games and photo's, if a little older and with music, 64G is the way to go.
Not sure what all the hoopla is about, whilst I've actually been a great fan of the iTouch since launch, have purchased 4 thus far and still do not own a iPhone, having checked the refurbished costs on Apple's website, its actually better value to purchase a refurbished 32G 5th generation model with he rear camera, than to purchase the stripped down iTouch, we are talking all of US$25.00 for 16G more storage and a good rear facing camera - my daughter aged five loves it, indeed, I purchased the 64G model for Christmas, but the 32G would have been sufficient for her needs for now - just games and photo's, if a little older and with music, 64G is the way to go.
I understand your point, but I cant think of a time except at the GYM where i would have my iPod and not my iPhone. Nor can I think of a time where my iPod would be closer to me than my iPhone except at the GYM. There is a market for iPod without the camera and with the camera and I would be amongst those who would forgo the camera option because I have so much music. I just took my iPod out and looked at all the pictures on it... I have 361 pictures on my iPod, of that 361, i would image from what i can see that about 350 of them were taking using other devices and put on my iPod and I have had my iPod since the 4th gen first came out.
Developers, developers, developers. These are much cheaper testing units than iPhones.
I can honestly say that I have used the camera on my 64gb 5th Gen. once in 6 months, and that was just to test it. Why bother? My Xperia Z uploads every photo instantly to Dropbox, Picassa, and it isn't a crappy 5 megapixels.
Ios 7 clearly won't be available for 4th gen. devices which is a good thing, but 16gb?
The minimum should be 32 and I want an iPod with 256gb.
Ios 7 clearly won't be available for 4th gen. devices which is a good thing, but 16gb?
The minimum should be 32 and I want an iPod with 256gb.
Are you kidding?? These things have a thousand uses. Just because *you* see now use for one...
I want one as a remote.
I even know someone who uses an iPod Touch as his sole connection to the world. No mobile phone at all. He travels all over the place and makes good money freelancing as an Animator...with no phone.
They're great for serving up porn on the run, also.
I'm assuming this means the FFC can be used for still shots (and isn't implemented as some kind of "Facetime only" peripheral), using the standard camera app (and probably any app for that matter ... see below).
This won't effect anything, if you invoke the camera in your app, you're probably checking for it first (you _should_ be), and since this appears to be a fully functional FFC, then I'm sure calling SourceTypeCamera will work just fine, simply default to the only camera in the hardware (i.e., the front).
No rear camera is just silly. I would think that a large target audience would be for kids too young for an iPhone. That is also the same target audience who probably use the camera the most.
Seems like a non-starter for me. When it's time up upgrade the family, I'll be off to the refurb store, instead of going this silly route.
Seems like a non-starter for me. When it's time up upgrade the family, I'll be off to the refurb store, instead of going this silly route.
I can see the workout angle, though I've always preferred smaller iPods (nanos, shuffles) for exercising. Right now I'm using a Shuffle after my 3rd gen Nano died.
But I think the majority of people who use the iPod Touch as a "daily driver" are teens and other people who use it in tandem with a feature phone. Most of those feature phones don't have decent cameras, so it makes sense to keep that in an iPod Touch.
Either way, it's an interesting move for what seems like a niche market. If I were a parent and wanted to save a little money, it could be an option, but I think my child would pick a used iPod Touch with a great camera over a new one without it.
The camera is only about £5 in a phone anyway is it not?
For me it's still to expensive. Old Ipod touch would be about £170 when it was the top end model.
8GB model with a camera would have made more sense for the casual gamer.
For me it's still to expensive. Old Ipod touch would be about £170 when it was the top end model.
8GB model with a camera would have made more sense for the casual gamer.
picking up on what you said here,
'Nobody wants an iPod without a camera; it's absolutely useless!'
you mean, the iPod, a device built primarily for people to listen to music on, is useless without a rear facing camera? why? and why did hundreds of millions of people buy ipods without cameras in the past? I think it's a great move to lower the cost of the ipod and bring the touch into new markets.
Also,
'People use their iOS devices for the camera more than half the time!'
This doesn't really make sense, and even if it did, it'd be wrong
Not many of us did. But not that genius of a Ming-Chi Kuo. That fellow is either a psychic, or he must have inside information.
The best part about the 5th gen ipod touch is that it has the same exact LCD part as the same gen iphone, instead of a subpar non-IPS version like in previous gens.
This 16GB model will probably be used to "get rid of" A5+512MB SoCs till Fall 2014, whereas the 32GB/64GB models will be updated to A6+1GB (or 512MB) in Fall 2013.
This is the new 2-year-lasting prev-gen-CPU-recycling low end ipod touch.
It's already happened with the A4-based low end 8Gb. 4th gen ipod touches have been around for 32 months now, 20 of which as low end prev gen options. Same will happen for A5-based ipod touch. The good thing, as I said, it's that this time they ship with a real iphone-grade screen.
The new fact here is also that the camera isn't sacred or untouchable...keep that in mind for when "less pricey" (not "cheap") camera-less (edit: or better, with a downgraded camera) colored iphones will show up.
This 16GB model will probably be used to "get rid of" A5+512MB SoCs till Fall 2014, whereas the 32GB/64GB models will be updated to A6+1GB (or 512MB) in Fall 2013.
This is the new 2-year-lasting prev-gen-CPU-recycling low end ipod touch.
It's already happened with the A4-based low end 8Gb. 4th gen ipod touches have been around for 32 months now, 20 of which as low end prev gen options. Same will happen for A5-based ipod touch. The good thing, as I said, it's that this time they ship with a real iphone-grade screen.
The new fact here is also that the camera isn't sacred or untouchable...keep that in mind for when "less pricey" (not "cheap") camera-less (edit: or better, with a downgraded camera) colored iphones will show up.