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Apple Launches New 4K & 5K iMacs, Magic Keyboard, Magic Mouse 2 and Magic Trackpad 2

Max(IT) said:
An iMac isn't a gaming computer ... is it so difficult to understand ?
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Did I mention the iMac as a gaming computer? I don't think so! And if I did, I was wrong. Maybe the Mac Pro.
Best gaming computers are the ones you build yourself with handpicked components, not an HP Pavillion sold at Costco.

Magic Trackpad 2 requires Bluetooth 4.0 ???

I just saved myself from having to decide to get it and $149.95 plus tax.

Too bad. I'm not buying a new iMac any time soon.
 
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asiga said:
I've the feeling that avoiding NVIDIA in the current product line has something to do with Metal. I'll always prefer NVIDIA over AMD, but it seems we'll be out of luck. And 3 to 5 years from now, even no AMD: just Intel. And 7 to 10 years from now, no Macs at all, just iPads, iPhones, Watches, glasses, shoes, trousers, handkerchiefs, and donuts.
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I can't wait to use the Apple Fritter! On my Apple Frigate, naturally.
 
jmgregory1 said:
I wonder why Apple did not integrate haptic feedback into the trackpad? The 21" iMacR seems like an ok offering. As others have noted, I'm also surprised that Apple has not made Fusion Drives standard. Our work 2012 iMac has one and has been great - speed similar to the rMBP and MBA we use, with the extra inexpensive space provided by the HDD.
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Force Touch is Apples rebranding of "haptic feedback" - same thing different name. There should be no fusion drives - just make them all SSD, not this half half tech garbage. 21" with integrated GPU is pathetic. They should all have separate GPU's for this price range.
 
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Very mixed feelings.
Was incredibly excited that the 27 RiMac had been updated with skylake.
-However, why does it not include alpine ridge/tb3?
-The lack of usbc and using lightning for charging the new peripherals is a redundant and obtuse decision
-The AMD GPUs really do not excite me, i will await benchmarks, and will try these out for myself, but the rumoured Nvidia GTX 990M is supposedly amazing, the most advanced and powerful mobile gpu to date.

Apple seem to have become inebriated with their infatuation of gaining profit margins and ripping every last $$ from customers. Even die hard fanboys on here [myself included] clearly see the redundancy in pushing the boundary in providing headline 5 k displays with mediocre, underwhelming 2yr year old tech - in certain contexts, and the arrogance in providing substandard components, especially in the base 21 Imac
 
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Max(IT) said:
downgrade ? Did you actually try that keyboard ?
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The reviews are already in -

From Ars Technica:

Key travel is somewhere in between the old wireless keyboard and the extremely shallow travel in the MacBook, but the feel is more MacBook-y than Apple Wireless Keyboard-y. If you've already gotten used to the travel in the MacBook, you'll have no problem adjusting to this one. If you're used to the travel in the Apple Wireless Keyboard or in the MacBook Pro or Air, you may hate the way the new one feels.

So yes, if the keyboard travel has gone down, and I am used to the lovely key travel in the old keyboard, them it is a downgrade.

Max(IT) said:
If you buy an iMac to play video games you are buying the wrong computer ... All this whining about iGPU and at the end what's the matter ? games !
Are all of you 15 yo or something like that ?
I'm shocked ...
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Um, an iGPU is underpowered for a Retina Display Mac. A huge resolution increase with a integrated GPU is not a good idea. Plus when you're paying a lot of money for an iMac, its a bit of a rip off not having a discrete CPU. But don't let that get in the way of defending Apple.
 
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ArmCortexA8 said:
UPDATE: Well here in Australia the prices have increased too much. The previous trackpad was $89, the new one $199. The previous magic mouse was $89, now $129. They should have kept the new models at the same price point. There is too much of a price gap which is putting me off.
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I'm definitely buying the old trackpad.. the new one is at highway robbery prices. My old trackpad died, and i've been waiting for a new one to upgrade it, but not at these prices.
 
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Max(IT) said:
An iMac isn't a gaming computer ... is it so difficult to understand ?
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Then ask yourself the question, why there are tons of games in the App Store in the first place? Not to mention Steam.

This is one of Apple's mistakes IMO. They treat gamers as second class citizens, with their consumer desktop computers. Alone the fact that they still using an older version of OGL, makes me cringe as a game developer.

I'm really a fan of the iPhones and Apple's Notebooks.(owning a MBP) But the desktop computers, despite the design and OS are quite underwhelming. I mean there isn't even a dedicated GPU in one of the 21 iMacs and just 8 gigs of RAM for all standard configurations. Even all 17inch MBP's have 16gigs.
 
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ArmCortexA8 said:
Force Touch is Apples rebranding of "haptic feedback" - same thing different name. There should be no fusion drives - just make them all SSD, not this half half tech garbage. 21" with integrated GPU is pathetic. They should all have separate GPU's for this price range.
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It is obscene that they offer 5400 rpm on an imac, if they are so concerned with saving costs, offer Sata-3 ssds as a lower tier option, and pci-e as an alternative, thus the $/GB would provide more flexibility, or a fusion drive, offerind a mixture of pcie sdds with sata 3 ssds.

I have been using ssds since the orginal ocv vertex days and would never go back to splinning platter hdds.
Skylake S/K CPU do still offer sata3 slots right?

As for those with very large data needs, TB3 coupled with a raid system would make external ssds an incredibly attractive alternative.

I would have 512GB ssd inbuilt, and an external 2Tb ssd over TB, all mirrored on a NAS.
 
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All the 21.5 iMacs should have a Fusion Drive standard, with a no cost upgrade to 256 GB of SSD. The Mid range 21.5 inch model should have a Discrete GPU and the 4K model should have a discrete GPU + 8GB of ram.


I also expect Apple will see a sales plunge in Australia. The baseline iMac is now $1699 - $1999 if you want an iMac that isn't underpowered.
 
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oldmacs said:
I'm definitely buying the old trackpad.. the new one is at highway robbery prices. My old trackpad died, and i've been waiting for a new one to upgrade it, but not at these prices.
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I agree and considering the cost of manufacturing is always dropping, this makes it even more so. The only way you can get it cheaper is use one of the easy to find EPP links in Australia which drops the Magic Trackpad 2 to $179.30 and the Mouse to $116.60. However for that price prefer my Razer Ouroboros mouse thanks :)
 
cmward_nyc said:
The accessories are overpriced, but how are the new iMacs insulting? I don't see any other desktops you can buy with comparable specs for the same price. I'm sure you could build it for less, but I'd guess 90% of the folks who would buy an iMac have zero interest in that idea
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Dear Sir, I've been paying overpriced Apple products all my life, at one point they were justified with the right balance between build quality, performance, aesthetics and software. But there has been a pattern lately, dosifying everything to tidbits.

A desktop made of mobile chips, sure there are none comparable, because except for processor, parts are underpowered compared to most desktops. The display is amazing, so you can see your 5400 rpm hard drive lag & bottle neck with tons of colors. Don't think about playing an intensive game at a decent FPS rate because "macs are not made for gaming" (as if one could tell gaming on iPhone/iPad has become quite popular probably because they don't run well either, or that performance difference on windows via Bootcamp on same hardware is abysmal), yet we charge you as if they were, but hey! now we brought Metal to the game, showcasing a zombie pony & unicorns "graphic intensive" game (they thought that the chosen game actually looked better than e.g:"Battlefield or Bioshock"), probably the lamest graphic driver presentation I've ever seen (people actually clapped after it).

Also, they think their mouse is comfortable! they are selling the most uncomfortable mouse in the world probably unaware? (It must be selling very good) People will justify it because it merges trackpad gestures? (as if they couldn't buy a trackpad instead nor laptops came with it). ERGONOMIC apple, ER-GO-NO-MIC.
 
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I really do hope the sales of these iMac plummet, there are of course certain priorities a compay has when producing products. What apple have implicated in their latest reincarnation, is to create a stylish sleek AIO, that is significantly underpowered, under the guise of a premium product. It is a despicable and shameful endeavour that will end up pissing off longtime diehard fans like myself. I have had macs since tiger, and have been wanting to upgrade to an imac since 2013.

i for one will again, hold off until thunderbolt 3 and dp 1.3 is released, so in years to come, i can use my 5k Imac as an external display.
 
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about time! was about to get my first imac but the lineup hadnt been updated in a while seems a good time to buy a 4k imac ;)
 
Traverse said:
Rechargeable AAs are still the better option. You can use them until they degrade and then replace them (versus the mouse itself). Also, because of where the connector is, you can't use the mouse while it's charging so if you're at an iMac, you'd better have a backup!
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Cha-ching, more disposable stuff. Since I don't have disposable money this one will probably be my last mac.
 
Just ordered that one without customisation, because of the shipping time:


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If I am not able to upgrade the RAM myself and/or the 2 TB Fusion Drive does not have at least a 120 GB SSD, I will return it.

I will separate the SSD from the HDD and perhaps might not even use the HDD at all.

I don't need much space, but it has to be fast and I love do have large retina display.

Maybe the HDD could be replaced later with a standard SSD.
 
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Just ordered that one without customisation, because of the shipping time:


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If I am not able to upgrade the RAM myself and/or the 2 TB Fusion Drive does not have at least a 120 GB SSD, I will return it.

I will separate the SSD from the HDD and perhaps might not even use the HDD at all.

I don't need much space, but it has to be fast and I love do have large retina display.

Maybe the HDD could be replaced later with a standard SSD.
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Ouch you're spending that kind of money and not getting an i7 processor? And only 8GB RAM?
 
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Jetfire said:
Yes but you had to do some modifications to OS-X. You'll have to find the Macrumors Article or Google it.

I did it to buy time until TB3 came out on the Macbook Pro and SSD pricing to come down. With this iMac update I may have to wait until 2016 now.
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Yes, I found the article now and ordered the part. I used to read MR every day since 2005 but took a break last year, which is why I missed that article! Thank you for sharing it. I'm looking forward to continuum.
 
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