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I am wondering if the Chalkboard font shown - is a hint at ios 12 is gonna have some customize-able aspects? I like the font and would love to be able to choose it!
 
This would have kill the competition if it included the pencil or even charge $50 for it. As it stands is just a meh deal.

It does, the new Logitech Crayon was designed in conjunction with Apple, offers all the same features only a better design, it has a female lightning charging port on the end, and is $49.

It also only works with the new iPad suggesting that Apples new iPads will have new wireless tech for these stylus going forward. But as a tablet and stylus, this new iPad, if then in laminated screen isn’t a deal breaker, could be a decent drawing tablet with the Logitech stylus on a budget.

http://9to5mac.com/2018/03/27/logitech-announces-49-crayon-stylus-cheaper-alternative-to-apple-pencil/
 
No laminated display or anti-reflective coating? It's a good price but I'll pass. Even the A8 chip iPad Mini has those features.
I expect Apple can't offer laminated displays at the $329 price point while maintaining their desired profit margin. The OOW replacement for the iPad mini 4 is higher than OOW replacement for the non-laminated display iPads.
 
What about a stylus is better than a keyboard for elementary schools when it comes to getting assignments completed?

They are learning to write before they learn to type? Though, of course, right now they are using iPads a lot without styli. I’ll quiz my first grader on what all they do on them.

I know at her school, as of third grade, all the students get their own iPads. Right now in first, there are some shared ones in the classroom.
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As a parent I’d appreciate having access to these worksheets as well.
Yep, I’m with you. The only way that I see that is to purchase a huge set of curriculum and make it public domain. If you have $100,000,000, I have a great idea for that ;)
 
They are learning to write before they learn to type? Though, of course, right now they are using iPads a lot without styli. I’ll quiz my first grader on what all they do on them.

I know at her school, as of third grade, all the students get their own iPads. Right now in first, there are some shared ones in the classroom.
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Not disagreeing just wanted your input.

I just got a keyboard for the kids iPad Air 2 and my 9 year loves it. She just typed up one of her assignments and imo is just preparing her more for the future especially with coding being taught at a younger and younger age.
 
While I'm glad Apple is adding pencil support to the iPad -- hopefully that will encourage developers. But I don't really understand this as a secondary education play.

First, $300 is a lot of money for schools, esp. when they can get Chromebooks for 1/3 of that price.

Then the pencil is still $99. That is 1/3rd of the cost of the iPad itself. Then x however many students. Does Apple think school systems are floating on money?

And I'm a pretty responsible adult. I try hard to keep up with my nice things. Even still I do well to keep up with my pencil because there really is no good place to keep it. I've tried magnets, loops, all sorts of attachments. But they aren't bullet proof. The pencil still can slip out of the loop, get dislodged from a magnet. Then there is the cap. Tell me those won't get lost in a school environment. I really can't see the avg. school system forking over $99 for Apple Pencils, esp. the current clumsy design.

There is only one (business) reason Apple should want to back into secondary edu -- to capture the next generation of iPad users. And if that is the goal I don't see why they don't just offer every school system X# of iPads @ cost, which if $329 is a 35% margin that would be about $215. Pencil would be $70, which is still very expensive for a school given the fragility and likely "shrinkage" of the item. The idea should not be to make a profit off the schools but make a profit off all the compounded purchases from students (and parents -- and even parents companies) in the months and years to follow because they are now better exposed to the capabilities of the Pad.

So my take is today's event was kind of half-assed as far as edu hardware strategy. Almost like Apple felt compelled to have some kind of event this quarter so they whipped this goulash up.

Chupa, Chupa, you are looking at this from the hardware point of view -- and you are absolutely correct -- it is a non-starter and will not provide Apple's wedge onto the educational market.

But this iPad, from a software point of view, also falls flat when compared to the model of computing of a Chrome Tablet/Book.

In multiple ways:

1. The Chrome Tablet/Book is a thin-client. Its natural state is for computing to take effect on the cloud, where a super-computer serves multiple thin clients.
2. The Chrome Tablet/Book apps, rights-of-use and mobility are centralized. The user profiles live on the cloud, and are agnostic to the thin-client -- that is, any user can login with the proper credentials on any thin-client.
3. The Chrome Tablet/Book requires only lite hardware as it serves only as a (multi-user) UX interface with the Chrome web browser as the target. Yes, the mini Linux Kernel supports device extensions such as keyboard, USB ports, additional storage, memory cards, ..., but the locus of computation typically takes place on the back.

The analogy I draw is that to Windows on the Enterprise, which derives power from its centralized controls due to Active Directory.

In the educational market that level of centralized control is paramount.

And, today's 9.7-inch iPad offers the counter-opposite: a thick-client model of computing which will be a non-starter out of the gate.
 
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Not disagreeing just wanted your input.

I just got a keyboard for the kids iPad Air 2 and my 9 year loves it. She just typed up one of her assignments and imo is just preparing her more for the future especially with coding being taught at a younger and younger age.

I can see that. I do think for the really tinies, drawing and writing are more important than typing. That fine motor control is still being learned. At least that’s definitely true for mine! Her reading is really good, and she types basic stuff into her ipad using the onscreen keyboard, but in school we are still working on putting spaces between words when she writes and not using exclusively capital letters.
 
Hey Apple, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 & 2017 called. They want their iPad back.

Seems a LOT of hyperbole on your part. The new iPad has an A10 and M10 coprocessor. Pencil support. Assume it will be Hey Siri unplugged capable (2017 was not). I was not a fan of the 2017 model. This one will be $299 for consumers very soon. For what it now offers its a good price when you consider the competition in this range. I'm not sure what else you were expecting for $329.
 
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What other large files will have to be stored on the actual iPad besides the apps? I feel like they’re going with google model where everything is stored in the cloud. 200gbs is overkill imo for storing documents
I would guess that some readings may need to be homework and not all kids have internet access (which I think they should have but that is a different discussion).
 
No laminated display or anti-reflective coating? It's a good price but I'll pass. Even the A8 chip iPad Mini has those features.

Yes, but the Mini 4 also is more expensive but does not support pencil, does not support Hey Siri unplugged. So there is that. I think if you want all the bells and whistle then you are meant for the Pro. The entry level has to shed some features or it wouldn't be entry level.
 
Seems a LOT of hyperbole on your part. The new iPad has an A10 and M10 coprocessor. Pencil support. Assume it will be Hey Siri unplugged capable (2017 was not). I was not a fan of the 2017 model. This one will be $299 for consumers very soon. For what it now offers its a good price when you consider the competition in this range. I'm not sure what else you were expecting for $329.
Didn't unplugged Hey Siri support got added to the 2017 iPad with iOS 11?
 
The reason why Chromebooks are so popular in education because they fully satisfy all the requirements with a full desktop browser, keyboard and mouse at the lowest cost for running all the tutorials on code.com, hourofcode.com, etc. This new iPad still lacks built-in keyboard, no mouse support, doesn't have a full desktop browser along with being more expensive. Apple should've offered a low cost Macbook instead.
 
I’d argue that, as a student, being able to use and attach an Apple Smart Keyboard with an iPad is a lot more useful than support for an Apple Pencil which isn’t even included in the still premium price of a lower end iPad.

That being said, even though we have mostly Apple products, my teenager’s 2 year old asus Chromebook still does everything she needs it to do and has 0 support for any type of stylus AND costs less than $300 brand new.

Is this specifically for graphic design schools?

Exactly. I have the 10.5” iPad Pro and the smart keyboard, which I really like. I have used the pencil, but fail to see any purpose for owning it unless you’re an graphic designer. Why would a school want the pencil. They have to be more aggressive than $29 reduced pricing for schools. They need to price it at 299 and include a smart keyboard.
 
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After reading the prices, Apple has lost the education market completely. I used to volunteer at my school to teach third graders basic programming concept using code.org. IPad will be disaster for them because it's so fragile. They drop Chromebooks left and right and those things don't break and continue to work. I don't think how schools can afford IPad if it keeps breaking every time somebody drops it. And the price! Come on Apple.. learn to invest in the future of the civilization.. money shouldn't be always the first priority!
Let me think about it. Oh yea, a case! Yup, that’s it!
 
For everyone tripping about the price, as a teacher I can confirm that chrome books are not an 'in kind' substitute for iPads. Yes, they may (now) be $100 less for the bottom of the line....but you also get crap components, cheap flimsy plastic, keys that easily come off, and one drop destroys the screen (not the physical screen, but its functionality). They're cheapER, but beyond that that they're flat out CHEAP and low quality.

On the other hand, for $100 more you get an iPad that is an industry leading tablet, has the same build quality and construction (and many components) of the $600 model. Their usable life span may not be more than 6 or 7 years before they're just too outdated to work, but the physical usability of a Chromebook is a few years when they're being used by kids in school. Trust me, I know.

These are for districts that are probably smaller, are committed to eliminating textbooks and using digital or teacher created materials instead, and can justify an 8 year buy cycle by buying iPads, pencils, and cheap bluetooth keyboards instead of textbooks....which also have an 8-10 year refresh cycle and cost $200-$300 each. Plus, when you buy textbooks, you need one for each child in the district. Schools can get away with classroom sets of chrome books that lessen the cost anyway.
Yep. Spot on. As schools can no longer afford curriculum (especially since the textbook manufactueres are starting to include yearly on line subscriptions), they are going to eventually start looking at open source.
 
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Yes, but the Mini 4 also is more expensive but does not support pencil, does not support Hey Siri unplugged. So there is that. I think if you want all the bells and whistle then you are meant for the Pro. The entry level has to shed some features or it wouldn't be entry level.

The Mini 128GB is only $20 less than than the 9.7" iPad 128GB. The Pro is way too expensive.
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I expect Apple can't offer laminated displays at the $329 price point while maintaining their desired profit margin. The OOW replacement for the iPad mini 4 is higher than OOW replacement for the non-laminated display iPads.

What is an OOW replacement? Apple could easily offer all iPads with the same features and only differ in screen size and still make tons of profit.
 
The Mini 128GB is only $20 less than than the 9.7" iPad 128GB. The Pro is way too expensive.
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What is an OOW replacement? Apple could easily offer all iPads with the same features and only differ in screen size and still make tons of profit.
Do note that Apple doesn't sell $299 iPad mini 4, though. Starting MSRP is $399/128GB. Storage is pretty cheap nowadays and I expect the price differential between 32GB and 128GB is much less than the price differential between non-laminated and fully laminated display.

OOW replacement: Out of warranty replacement.

I've checked 3rd party repairs before and the laminated displays actually are more expensive than the displays used for the 1st gen Air/2017 iPad/2018 iPad. I expect doable at the $399 price point but definitely cutting significantly into profit at $329 and Apple isn't in the business of selling low margin hardware.
 
Yet another boring evolutionary product announcement from the crap team of Schiller & Cook.

Do we have any DNA left to clone Steve? He fer sure didn’t leave much DNA at Apple.
 
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Can you be more specific?

Can’t you just type in an answer after tapping on the field that needs an answer or reply?
In kinder they are circling answers if they’ve learned to read. They are learning letter writing. They are drawing answers. By third/forth grade they are writing out math answers with long division and larger multiplication. It is hand written. They are also doing fill in the blanks for spelling and writing. So to do some of that either you will need to program everything (not realistic), or just simply use something like PDF Expert to write on the page itself then share to teacher.
 
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