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With the comments here (as usual) you'd get the impression that a 6 year old is going to have a screaming fit about bezels and throw it right back at their parents.

What I find astonishing is, with all the whine-n-moans, there are so many people here ready to purchase an iPod Touch. But damn, the bezels killed it. Or is it the RAM? Or the A10, or the...
 
Wat does android have to do with a $200 MP3 player in 2019?

My point was even apples "old devices" are still decent today. And its not a $200 MP3 player. Its essentially an iPhone with out the phone. Many developers use them as a cheap testing device and some parents use them as a cheap entertainment device for kids that isn't a phone or tablet.
 
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Who could have known that discussing a simple matter of buying a gimped smart device vs a smart phone required understanding the totality of raising a child. What's next - deciding on McDonalds vs Burger King requires understanding string theory?

No, because the kid is always going to pick McDonald's...ALWAYS...

Distilled down in a nutshell, see below

Dr. Alan Grant: You got any kids?
Dr. Ian Malcolm: Me? Oh, hell yeah, three. I love kids. Anything at all can and does happen.
 
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My opinion only but the Touch 6 will support iOS 13 but that will be the last update.

In the past, Apple has tried to support at least one update for a year to a device sold as new.

Entirely possible. However the 4th gen iPod touch was sold until May 30, 2013, 11 days before the announcement of iOS 7 dropping the device at WWDC 2013.
Today is May 28, 2019, with the expected announcement of iOS 13 at WWDC 2019 right around the corner, that's the parallel I saw.
On the other hand, in May 2013 the 4th gen iPod touch wasn't the current model anymore, it was sold at as an entry model besides the 5th gen, whereas the 6th gen was the latest and "greatest" iPod touch until today.
 
Why would the parents be required to activate the iPhone 7 as a phone? Again, their child could simply use it as a Touch, then later utilize the phone functionality when he's old enough for it to make sense. And for the same price as the Touch. And why would they need AirPods?
You gave me a lot to think about.

Mostly likely, an iPhone 7 would not last that long. If you give the kid today an iPhone 7 at age 7-8, odds are, it probably won't last until he/she is 12 or 13 which is a good age point where they are deemed responsible to have a phone.

Additionally, you have stuff like Touch ID and Apple Pay. These features will get accessed regardless of your restriction. I remember being able to turn off the parental controls on my flip phone when my mom gave me it at age 9. She regretted her decision a month later when her phone bill showed that I used her cellular service for internet usage. Never give your children any openings or anyway to circumvent your command.

Thirdly, the iPhone 7 doesn't have a headphone jack. You want to give your child something that's cheap and easily replacable. Of course, the old Headphone jack on the iPod Touch gives a lot of cheap $5 options compared to the lightning connected earpods or bluetooth.

Plus, you're basing your argument on a Swappa sold iPhone 7 which is not going to always be available. Normal refurbished iPhone 7 models are still in the $200-$400 range. If chip performance is not an issue as a parent, you can definitely go to much older iOS devices.
 
Lost in five minutes? Swallowed by a younger sibling? By that logic there's not many things a parent would ever buy their child, except for maybe a crash helmet.

It's often debated amongst parental units, but we seldom actually act on it; sports mostly...because the participation rider often requires it.

Later in life, we sometimes wonder if we should have regardless, but I digress.
 
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The iPod touch is limited enough that a parent, even a non-technical one, can most likely fix anything the child messes up.

Having a headphone jack makes it easy to buy a cheap set of headphones at a convenience store on a long trip if the ones they have break. A lightning to 3.5mm jack is going to get lost within 5 minutes of a child getting ahold of it, or swallowing by the younger sibling. A 3.5mm splitter is cheap so two children can listen or watch in the back seat and you don't have to be tortured by Peppa Pig or PJ Masks.

If you have kids, the iPod touch makes sense for whole host of reasons over an iPhone 7.
Cheap android tablet still makes more sense at this price point, especially on that tiny ass screen. All 3 of my kids have lg g pad tablets, 1080p laminated 8” screen, 32gb storage, expandable storage, headphone jack and plays minecraft. Plus great for shows and plays most of their kids games great
 
iPad Air, iPad mini 5, and the new MacBook pros were all released in 2019 with Touch ID.

Yup until the iPod touch also released in 2019 without Touch ID.

Since all 2018 iPhones and 2018 iPad Pro have already replaced Touch ID, MacBooks and Macs should be next.
 
I can't remember the last time I saw a kid with an iPod touch. They are typically loudly playing Fortnite on an iPad Mini in a restaraunt. My five year old has an iPad Mini 2 that I let her use for about 30-60 minutes a day to play mostly educational games, read books, and watch PBS kids.

Stupid enough, I've seen more and more elementary aged kids with iPhones, usually they look like hand-me-downs, but still. I will not be doing with my kids. Probably not even until they are driving, and we'll have a good talk about phone safety then. Although maybe we won't even really use phones in 10 years, lol.

I knew a family that got their kid (a 11-year old, I think) an iPod touch so she could use social media and have access to apps and chat with friends. Seemed like a good solution. (One neat social media thing they did was she made all her accounts under a different name. This way, if she chooses to, she can abandon them as an adult and her silly instagrams and such will not be easily traceable to her.) The addressable user market of kids between ages 9 and 12 in from families where this is an affordable buy is large enough to be well worth the limited time engineering this spec bump.
 
It’s Apple, they do what they want. And its a rumor, not a fact.
All companies do what they want, and we’re posting on MacRumors, not MacFacts.

The rumor is ridiculous and it’s wrong. iOS 13 will not abandon the SE or the 6s. The 5s sure, maybe even the 6, iPad mini 4 probably not.
 
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Why would the parents be required to activate the iPhone 7 as a phone? Again, their child could simply use it as a Touch, then later utilize the phone functionality when he's old enough for it to make sense. And for the same price as the Touch. And why would they need AirPods?

I don't think this is a fair comparison. They're not the same price when compared equally. They're only the same price when comparing new vs used. Or, as New vs New with contract from a cell carrier.

Currently as per Apple.ca's Canadian pricing, this is the breakdown of prices for a new iPod Touch:

32GB = $249.00
128GB = $369.00
256 GB = $489.00

And the prices for a new iPhone 7:

32GB = $629.00
128 GB = $769.00

When comparing new to new, that's a difference of almost $400.00 (CDN). I can buy both my kids each their own Touch for less than I can buy a single kid an iPhone 7. People in this thread keep trying to say the iPhone 7 is the better deal due to similar pricing, but unless you want to deal with used/hand me downs with negligible charge cycles left, or forking over to add a carrier contract to the mix, they're really not the same price.

For a none phone device, that's new, the iPod Touch is still the better deal.
 
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So released almost 4 years after last Touch, but with only a two year newer chip! So no where near as good as the previous model was when it was released.
 
Good news for people with kids whose parents don't understand that an old iPhone without a cellular plan is better than a outdated touch with a new chip.

(I fixed it for you)

Please explain to me why it's better for me to pay $50-100 more to get a refurbished iPhone 7, versus this Touch. I'm sure my four year old daughter would love to know what killer benefit that refurbished iPhone could offer her that the Touch can't. :rolleyes:
 
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The new iPod touch also has the same battery life of up to 40 hours for music playback

The 6th gen has atrocious battery life (mine was 5 hours music playback when purchased new). Same battery? No thanks.
 
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Apple finally picking a few of the low hanging fruit. Upgrade like this probably took the relevant engineering teams a month of part time work. But boom, the product is now much more compelling and will earn Apple millions, if not a billion a dollars over the next year or two. A nice little device for the kids when you don't want to lend them your phone. Or an alternative device for an iPhone user.
I get the appeal.
Apple devices are pretty, sexy, well-designed etc.

But if you're looking for something cheap for your kid, wouldn't a phone be even better?
I mean you can get a Galaxy A40 for 200 bucks (the price of the ipod)...
The A40 has:
  • 6-inch Super AMOLED display (full HD)
  • Great front and back cameras
  • SD Card slot for more data
  • cpu&ram are pretty modern (8-core cpu, 4gb ram).
Oh and you know, it plays music, video and games... and can make calls!

Why would anyone buy the iPod touch is beyond my understanding.

edit: About the battery: A smartphone on airplane mode basically becomes an iPod touch and will have a huge battery life. I don't know the numbers but it can last for weeks in standby.
 
This is exactly what I wanted. I really have no use for iPads, and refuse to upgrade from my iPad Air 2. But I still need a portable iOS device for specific reasons. I'll be getting the 128gb version.
 
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