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I knew a family that got their kid (a 11-year old, I think) an iPod touch so she could use social media and have access to apps and chat with friends. Seemed like a good solution. (One neat social media thing they did was she made all her accounts under a different name. This way, if she chooses to, she can abandon them as an adult and her silly instagrams and such will not be easily traceable to her.) The addressable user market of kids between ages 9 and 12 in from families where this is an affordable buy is large enough to be well worth the limited time engineering this spec bump.

Kids quickly learn to use a second social media account anyway. They know that most (smart) parents monitor their social media accounts... So they create other stealth accounts they share with friends only. They will still put up occasional token content in their normal account. Kids be crafty. :cool:
 
Will be interested to see if the new iPod Touch has 2GB RAM to go with the A10, up from the 1GB/A8 of the previous version. The performance increase could be even higher with not having to reload apps when they have been switched away from.

Looks like a pretty solid upgrade from here, still keeping the previous price points for the media player/gym player/pre-IPhone kids crowd. My 12yo son used his previous gen iPod Touch daily prior to getting his first iPhone (an SE) last Christmas. As far as I can tell, Apple have the pre-smartphone market to themselves, and an established iPod Touch user is more likely to become an iPhone user - especially if parents/guardians are themselves in the iOS ecosystem with family sharing, parental controls, App Store/iTunes purchases & subscriptions.
 
Its amount of DRAM will determine whether it becomes a BIG success or not.

"If" AAPL was wise enough to put 3 GB into it, then its Performance will be on-par with the 7+, 8+, XS, & XS Max, AAPL's four highest-performance iPhones, & it will ultimately become a BIG hit.

If ONLY 2 GB, then it will act like the 7, 8, X, & XR, when pushed hard by High Performance apps, & do NO better than the touch 6.

From looking @ the webpages on the apple website, everything looks impressive, so "the amount of DRAM" is key !
 
Probably cost Apple well under $100 to keep making these and selling it for the price they are asking. Especially at the higher tier storage levels.

It probably costs them $10 to make each one! Four year old design and screen, a SOC that’s three years old! The rest costs peanuts. Apple will be making massive profit in this device, should have been $99 or at most $150.
 
Assuming the battery is still 1,000mah, how much can an efficient A10 save on battery life? I think that the A8 was a bit hard on this battery, so the A10 could be worse.
 
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$199?

Greedy Bastards
Yep, get an Android phone with better specs, better camera, better screen, better everything and also be able to make phone calls. Don’t want your kids to make phone calls? Remove the sim.

I sometimes wonder if Apple knows what the competition has to offer. If they’re aware it’s even more embarrassing.

Also they blame lower iPhone sales in China due to the trade war... can’t it be that Chinese people realize they can get so much better for lower pricing from other vendors?
 
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Hardly an “update”, same design as 2012. Kids are better off with a used 7.
Hopefully you are able to understand that a redesign is not the only way to update a product. Furthermore a redesign of an aging product past it's marketable prime is most likely not going to happen. Too many people on this site are incapable of basic reasoning.
 
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How bad is the camera? I mean is it gonna look decent when he takes pics and they show up there in the iPod? He's been wanting a camera, but it's not like I'm gonna get him a nice camera anyway - just don't want this to be fuzzy crappy pics.

For me personally, as a travel photog, i am not gonna upgrade my ipod touch 5. I definitely would have if Apple had upgraded the camera. But since they didn’t, i will pass. For someone’s grandson however, i think it’d make a great gift.
 
Hopefully you are able to understand that a redesign is not the only way to update a product. Furthermore a redesign of an aging product past it's marketable prime is most likely not going to happen. Too many people on this site are incapable of basic reasoning.
It’s certainly not the only way to update a product, but it’s not that hard to tell when Apple has stopped caring about a product line.

Unless you think Apple is going to keep updating the iPod touch with the same design and only a new chip every couple of years. I don’t buy that.

Even the iPad mini got more love with the P3 color gamut upgrade and more recent A-chip.
 
I was just thinking to myself "where's the market for this" until I saw your comment.

This is actually excellent news for those of us with enterprise client bases who rely on these devices to power scanners, readers and other peripherals in the workplace. While Apple will be happy to sell these devices to your kids to use as music players, I'd guess they are actually aimed at keeping existing corporate clients -- many of whom have been snapping up refurbished 5th- and 6th gen models for years now -- happy.

Any company that has invested in form-factor-specific IR scanner sleds, credit card readers, etc., can finally breathe a huge sigh of relief, knowing they've still got a long-term supplier of iPod Touches that fit the existing infrastructure they've been building since the 5th-gen model was introduced in 2012. I remember the switch from the 4th-gen to 5th gen, and the thought of trying to coordinate such a migration at our clients' existing scale has been a driving force in deciding how to continue to meet existing needs. This allows us to take a breath for a few months, at least.
 
Its amount of DRAM will determine whether it becomes a BIG success or not.

"If" AAPL was wise enough to put 3 GB into it, then its Performance will be on-par with the 7+, 8+, XS, & XS Max, AAPL's four highest-performance iPhones, & it will ultimately become a BIG hit.

If ONLY 2 GB, then it will act like the 7, 8, X, & XR, when pushed hard by High Performance apps, & do NO better than the touch 6.

From looking @ the webpages on the apple website, everything looks impressive, so "the amount of DRAM" is key !
How do you figure that when the X and XR have 3GB?
 
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I did pick up on that too, and I was also confused as to how the XR is taxed by a big app? Considering it has the exact same SOC as the XS just 1GB less ram.
Yep definitely weird to say the 8+ and especially the 7+ will handle an app better than the XR... as far as I'm aware the only Apps with significant enough RAM usage for this to even be a consideration is stuff like procreate (and then with a big canvas and a lot of layers) on the iPad.
 
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Apple finally picking a few of the low hanging fruit. Upgrade like this probably took the relevant engineering teams a month of part time work. But boom, the product is now much more compelling and will earn Apple millions, if not a billion a dollars over the next year or two. A nice little device for the kids when you don't want to lend them your phone. Or an alternative device for an iPhone user.

It’d be interesting to see the revenue generated from devices like this. The only market I see them in is for children. However, most of the children I know use iPads, or some form or tablet, to consume media.

I can’t see the iPod staying around much longer!
 
32gb base storage lol

It’s way too cheap, but still is a solid iPod touch for most people. For 200, an iPod nano would be reasonable, a touch? No way. iPod touch should start at 329 for 16G, 379 for 32G, 399 for 64G, 449 for 128Gand go up to 549 for a 256G
 
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