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The first part of your comment doesn’t make sense, I said that it was a rumor not a fact and then you point out how this is a rumor site. Second, Apple has had plenty of devices in the past that only receive a couple of iOS updates before they are left out. The original iPhone got two updates, 1.0-3 The iPhone 3G only got two updates, 2.0-4 The iPhone 3GS only got three updates as did the iPhone 4. The 5c only got three updates etc. I’m not saying it’s going to happen, I was simply stating that it could happen because Apple has stopped updating devices of that age before.
My pointing out that this is a rumor site makes perfect sense in reply to your stating we’re commenting on a rumor, not a fact. You could make the same superfluous “it’s a rumor not a fact” comment in many MacRumors articles and it would be no more meaningful there than it is here.

Apple drops support when the hardware would be unable to provide acceptable performance with the new OS. It’s 2019 and Apple is still supporting the 2013 A7/1GB iPhone 5s, and owners of that phone are surprised they’re still getting decent performance with the very latest OS.

My take on device support—iOS 13 will not abandon the SE or the 6s; 5s sure, maybe even the 6, iPad mini 4 probably not—is based on the hardware. There’s zero reason to think that the minimum hardware requirement will increase from A7/1GB to A10/2GB. That would mean dropping support for half a billion devices.
 
what are you talking about? No one buys an iPhone or  consumer device looking at RAM. My iPod Touch 1G works perfectly with 128MB ram ,yes mb. Apple's OS design has been excellent from iOS 1 & macOS X 1.0
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 never has allowed TouchID & FaceID data to leave the secure enclave. You can change your touchID sensor on a broken iPhone ,but they will not work because the secure enclave data does not work with unauthorized sensors.Plus, touchID & FaceID data is NEVER stored in the cloud.

You're more than welcome to place your trust in a corporation.
I just can't. Especially with how poorly Apple has treats its customers.
Not to mention this MacRumors story coming out just today.
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/05/28/background-refresh-apps-sending-data/
Adding to that this 9to5mac story about Apple's vulnerability to hackers coming out yesterday as well.
https://9to5mac.com/2019/05/27/hacked-into-apple-servers/
I just don't Apple's abilities to keep my data safe, or to have my best interests at heart.
 
Bragging that a 2 year old chipset is twice as fast highlights the deficiency with the current offering.

OK? But why would the consumer care about chipsets? They don’t even know what that means. What they see, is an updated product that continues to receive iOS support, offered in multiple colors and a 3.5 mm Jack. That’s all that matters to the average consumer. They don’t care about processors/ram/resolution, the list goes on. It’s easy for anyone on this site to be ‘technical’ about specifications, but to the average consumer, it’s a foreign language to them and they don’t care. They just want an updated product that continues to receive support, and truthfully, that’s really all the iPod needs without making it too expensive.
 
I currently use the 5th gen, great little device. Was kind of hoping for a decent upgrade to justify spending money on a new one, but after seeing the specs on this I think I’ll pass.
 
Looking at the back side, what’s the black oval shape in the upper right corner opposite of the camera?
 
To me would be kinda like buying a Boom Box or Sony Walkman. I'd buy an inexpensive smart phone if I had younger kids who needed music. JMHO. Surprised to see this being refreshed when everything is really geared toward streaming content now.
 
Safe to say this is probably the last iPod touch update we’ll ever see :(
But that's what people also said about the iPod touch 5 and 6. It seems every new iPod Touch we get people start to say their goodbyes but then 3-4 years later we get a new one and the cycle repeats itself.
 
But that's what people also said about the iPod touch 5 and 6. It seems every new iPod Touch we get people start to say their goodbyes but then 3-4 years later we get a new one and the cycle repeats itself.
True, but the cycle has gotten longer every single time: from 2, to 3, and now to 4 years. And the actual upgrades have become weaker as well.
 
I currently use the 5th gen, great little device. Was kind of hoping for a decent upgrade to justify spending money on a new one, but after seeing the specs on this I think I’ll pass.

I also have a fifth and sixth GEN. The only problem with the fifth GEN, is that it’s not as efficient with the battery life as the six GEN is with the A8. I’m more curious to see the performance with A10 fusion with the seventh GEN, and I expect there should be some performance results posted soon.
 
Actually the poster made the obvious argument. You argued that someone can get the iPhone 7 for their kids with more features for the same price. The simple fact is: Parents shouldn't be giving their 7-year old child a phone. They shouldn't be calling people without their parents knowledge. They shouldn't be able to keep their parents out of the loop with Touch ID. They shouldn't need NFC chips, or AirPods, or great cameras.

All of those things can be restricted by their parents. And how does Touch ID lock them out? I don't have to use Touch ID to get into any of my Apple devices. And yeah, cameras are a pretty big deal to kids. Maybe not AirPods, but certainly nothing wrong with giving a kid a BT headphone.

People keep dunking on this, but this is good news for people who need this product, so it’ll continue to support new versions of iOS. I’m planning on getting them for our employees to use when taking orders, doing inventory, etc. But there’s absolutely no way I would’ve bought them each an iPhone for that.

So then you have to ask yourself, why would Apple discontinue the SE then? Why not give it an A10 chip and keep it serving the low end of the market?
 
Good news for people with kids whose parents don't understand that an old iPhone without a cellular plan is better than a outdated touch with a new chip.

(I fixed it for you)

Or the new iPod touch is the device they should have purchased after their kid calls 911 (still works even with no sim installed) due to running out of in game Smurfberries.

My child was using an old iPhone 5, and I always worried she would accidentally do an emergency call. I hid the phone app well, and it never happened, but it was a worry.

Recently the phone died when the battery expanded and separated the lcd components, so I am in the market for an iPhone/iPod touch/iPad or a cheap amazon fire tablet. I am glad there are different options for different people.
 
I also have a fifth and sixth GEN. The only problem with the fifth GEN, is that it’s not as efficient with the battery life as the six GEN is with the A8. I’m more curious to see the performance with A10 fusion with the seventh GEN, and I expect there should be some performance results posted soon.

I mostly use mine for streaming music and podcasts, it’s about all its good for now, I get quite a good use out of it and considering they stopped supporting the 5th gen a couple of years ago I’m still surprised at how well the battery has lasted. Also my kids at an age of understanding these products I may just end up getting one.
 
Based on a previous post I’ve made I think Apple should pivot on the iPod not only as a media player but also a content creator.

Add more mics and go pro like “hyper smooth” video stabilization and some marketing reflecting this direction and I think they’d have a winner.

It already has a powerful processor and an endless supply of high quality video/image editing apps. Add some waterproofing and boom!
 
I was just thinking to myself "where's the market for this" until I saw your comment.
Still, people with kids may do better with an iPhone without cellular service than with the iPod touch. now that Apple removed the requirement to have a SIM card inserted in order to set up an iPhone for the first time, the iPod touch really makes little sense.
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Apple has a new tradition lately: update products on the eve of events.
Right before events where no new hardware is to be announced, that is. Such as the event of last march and now the coming WWDC.
 
You're more than welcome to place your trust in a corporation.
I just can't. Especially with how poorly Apple has treats its customers.
Not to mention this MacRumors story coming out just today.
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/05/28/background-refresh-apps-sending-data/
Adding to that this 9to5mac story about Apple's vulnerability to hackers coming out yesterday as well.
https://9to5mac.com/2019/05/27/hacked-into-apple-servers/
I just don't Apple's abilities to keep my data safe, or to have my best interests at heart.
Lol. Turn off background app refresh. Dont trust any app maker.  can’t stop what 3rd parties are doing. They are 3rd parties for a reason.
 
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Actually the poster made the obvious argument. You argued that someone can get the iPhone 7 for their kids with more features for the same price. The simple fact is: Parents shouldn't be giving their 7-year old child a phone. They shouldn't be calling people without their parents knowledge. They shouldn't be able to keep their parents out of the loop with Touch ID. They shouldn't need NFC chips, or AirPods, or great cameras.
Actually, you're making the obvious false assumptions: that the iPhone 7 given to a kid will have cellular service activated and that the kid can use Touch ID to lock the parents out of the phone. Both assumptions are false

iPhones can be used without activating cellular service and work well as a greater quality iPod touch, and older iPhone models can even be purchased for about the same price as this new iPod, thus it makes little sense to buy the new iPod. Even less now that apple has removed the requirement to have a SIM card inserted when setting up the iPhone for the first time. Also, parents can use the phone's settings to restrict whatever features they don't want the kid to use.

As for Touch ID or Face ID, THEY CANNOT BE USED TO LOCK ANYONE OUT OF A DEVICE, since the devices can always be unlocked using the passcode (in fact, Touch ID or Face ID is automatically disabled every so often and requires to enter the passcode to reenable it).
 
I love these "it'll be great for the kids" folks. Yeah, a $199 (and up) device to further zombify our youth. That's just what we need. These are the same pathetic individuals who thrust these electronic babysitters into their kids hands whenever they need to do something unscrupulous, or they just want to be lazy bums, which is more often than not. Thanks for being a major part of the problem ;)
Family member always complaining how hard is it to take care of this kids (3-5 age) but everytime I visit they all have an ipad in their hand......... I guess this is the new generation of parenting
 
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