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The color of your skin should not be a criteria for entry. It should be on merit. Make applications double-blind if you have to but to judge on race is in and of itself...racist.

You can’t do this right now. If all things were equal yes but they are not. If you did this you run into the problem Harvard had where the disproportionate amount of people accepted were Asian. As I said it’s not about only skin color. There are cultural and economic biases too. Asians are not performing better because they are magically smarter than the rest of us because of the specific amount of melanin in their skin. There are cultural and other factors at play.
 
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Any help is alway good. The problem with this is I don’t know if it’s going to “fix” the problem. Until all races of children in the inner city have families that support them, get them off the street and are raised by two parents (doesn’t matter if they are gay or straight parents)this wont do much. If we look at most races like Hispanic, Eastern Indian, Middle Eastern, Caucasian and Asian there is a common difference between them and African Americans. Those races generally (painting with a very broad brush I know) have a more stable family and home life which in turns leads to greater overall success in life.
In my opinion these companies could do more in the name of “equality” if they could help strengthen and support all of the struggling families out there in those situations. These poor kids don’t stand a chance in life (in any race) without it.
 
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Any help is alway good. The problem with this is I don’t know if it’s going to “fix” the problem. Until all races of children in the inner city have families that support them, get them off the street and are raised by two parents (doesn’t matter if they are gay or straight parents)this wont do much. If we look at most races like Hispanic, Eastern Indian, Middle Eastern, Caucasian and Asian there is a common difference between them and African Americans. Those races generally (painting with a very broad brush I know) have a more stable family and home life which in turns leads to greater overall success in life.
In my opinion these companies could do more in the name of “equality” if they could help strengthen and support all of the struggling families out there in those situations. These poor kids don’t stand a chance in life (in any race) without it.

And yet Hispanics sit next to African Americans in certain metrics of achievements despite many being able to pass for white.
 
I think it's very clear from this thread that some people most definitely do.
I don't think they realize it. I think they're equating "freedom of speech" with freedom to protest in any way that makes change happen quickest. In the same way that Trump incited the illegal and violent part of the protest, some of the peaceful protesters outside the Capitol were also part of that incitement. Similarly, cheerleaders for "freedom" on this and many other forums believe they are removed from responsibility since they weren't there and they aren't inciting violent acts. But they're backing the ones that incite violence and act violently and don't understand that.
 
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anti-semitics like Jared Kushner and his wife Ivanka?
Yeh it's a bit odd considering how rife anti-semitism is within the Democrat party.
I guess everyone that disagrees with me is a racist/homophobe/anti-semite/white supremacist. Did I miss any? Which is the trendy slur the left uses today to bash those who don't agree with their race based agenda?
 
It’s not racist to say or think White people feel like they are being pushed away, since blm Netflix Disney plus etc have black categories and it’s all you hear about from company’s that want to be woke and progressive, I have zero issues with anyone based on skin colour I treat others how I wanna be treated, stats just don’t agree that america is racist, yeah there are bad people everywhere but the law and majority isn’t like that, this is just annoying people because certain people don’t feel equal anymore
Has this black man really been suspended by the moderators for voicing a civil perspective surrounding race? Tell me it hasn’t arisen to this degree of sadness.
 
If you're talking about George Floyd, I don't think he is a hero. But I also don't think that because someone is a criminal that means they deserve to die or that we can do anything to them, no matter how cruel. Being a criminal does not mean you've given up your humanity.

And that's for time to tell. Some things have ceased to be problems. History bears it out. Problems can and do go away, even if new problems may replace them. E.g. we may have eliminated smallpox, but then AIDS/COVID happened. That doesn't mean fighting disease is pointless, though.

Very well said. George Floyd is scum. That’s judging him by his previous crimes/actions he committed. However like you said he did not deserve to be killed. That cop was 100% in the wrong and should be fired and charged and convicted of manslaughter or lessor murder charges. How the country handled it was just as bad.
The issue I have with the world is how things are reported and what’s deemed acceptable and not.
Ashli Babbit and the other guy who was pushed off a balcony (by a cop) were also committing crimes and the cops that did those terrible acts as well should be held accountable and their stories should get just as much coverage as George Floyd. They won’t though. Instead those cops that the country wanted defund 7 months ago are now being praised as heroes. I’m very sadden at the entire state of our country.
 
Very well said. George Floyd is scum. That’s judging him by his previous crimes/actions he committed. However like you said he did not deserve to be killed. That cop was 100% in the wrong and should be fired and charged and convicted of manslaughter or lessor murder charges. How the country handled it was just as bad.
The issue I have with the world is how things are reported and what’s deemed acceptable and not.
Ashli Babbit and the other guy who was pushed off a balcony (by a cop) were also committing crimes and the cops that did those terrible acts as well should be held accountable and their stories should get just as much coverage as George Floyd. They won’t though. Instead those cops that the country wanted defund 7 months ago are now being praised as heroes. I’m very sadden at the entire state of our country.

Well, I don't know that that specific cop is being praised as a hero, but some of the cops who were present are. It's difficult. I think many of us recognize that there is a need for police but we don't want to see them abusing their position. I can't speak for all left-wingers, but I will say that I do not think Babbit should've been shot and I do not regard the cop who did that as a hero (and I'd be curious what the "blue lives matter" conservatives think about the actions of the police at the Capitol or what they thought when they were beating them).

If we're going to address the actions of police fairly then we can't focus only on instances when the person killed is sympathetic to us. We have to look at all police killings.
 
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Very well said. George Floyd is scum. That’s judging him by his previous crimes/actions he committed. However like you said he did not deserve to be killed. That cop was 100% in the wrong and should be fired and charged and convicted of manslaughter or lessor murder charges. How the country handled it was just as bad.
The issue I have with the world is how things are reported and what’s deemed acceptable and not.
Ashli Babbit and the other guy who was pushed off a balcony (by a cop) were also committing crimes and the cops that did those terrible acts as well should be held accountable and their stories should get just as much coverage as George Floyd. They won’t though. Instead those cops that the country wanted defund 7 months ago are now being praised as heroes. I’m very sadden at the entire state of our country.
I agree, the coroner also found he had a potentially lethal dose of fentanyl in his system. The officer was totally wrong to kneel on his neck and should be charged accordingly - but the story the media pushed was as always, twisted beyond recognition.

If you see the whole video in context he asked to be taken out of the Police car where he was sitting. Why the officer knelt on his neck is beyond me. I have little sympathy for either person involved. Floyd shouldn't have taken drugs and committed crimes and the officer should not have kneeled on his neck. That's not something I was ever taught in the military and I doubt officers would be taught to do either.
 
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I don't agree. I don't think he should've lost his life for using counterfeit 20s. And I don't think that's a radical position.

I feel the same way about the woman who was shot in the Capitol or the protester who was run over in Charlottesville.
I agree - the guy was on fentanyl which the coroner ruled as the COD.
 
The color of your skin should not be a criteria for entry. It should be on merit. Make applications double-blind if you have to but to judge on race is in and of itself...racist.

He meant that the poster wasn't even from the US because he spelt color like someone from the UK. :)
 
I guess I can find some humor in Apple trying to support racial equality and opportunity while literally supporting slavery, politically and financially, in another country.
Absolutely spot on. And not only that, but look no further than the makeup of their own board of directors to show how feigned their attempts at diversity have been.

Black people in America do need more hope than the poorest communities tend to have, but I am under the impression that it is an insult to our people to be referring to ourselves by our skin tones and upholding the historically racist definition of color vs. white. There is so much diversity within European-rooted people as well as African-rooted people whose ancestors ended up in the United States.

But even if this center makes a difference in one black life, it’s served a beautiful purpose. We’ll see. I vehemently disagree with the “antiracism” garbage and think it’s poisonous to the nation. I don’t like seeing corporate America encouraging polarization and what I consider diminishment of diversity in perspective. Most people I speak with—black and white—think that sh*t is Looney Tunes.
 
Very well said. George Floyd is scum. That’s judging him by his previous crimes/actions he committed. However like you said he did not deserve to be killed. That cop was 100% in the wrong and should be fired and charged and convicted of manslaughter or lessor murder charges. How the country handled it was just as bad.
The issue I have with the world is how things are reported and what’s deemed acceptable and not.
Ashli Babbit and the other guy who was pushed off a balcony (by a cop) were also committing crimes and the cops that did those terrible acts as well should be held accountable and their stories should get just as much coverage as George Floyd. They won’t though. Instead those cops that the country wanted defund 7 months ago are now being praised as heroes. I’m very sadden at the entire state of our country.
No ,
THIS is scum. https://www.scribd.com/doc/31634105...-and-Affidavits#fullscreen?platform=hootsuite

But ws always pick and choose their outrage right?
 
I’d recommend you watch this 4-minute video:

It demonstrates why Apple is donating to certain groups only, rather than all. They’re trying to get equality of opportunity, not equality of treatment.

First time I’ve ever seen that. I like it a lot. However all of those things that “underserved and under represented”have had to live with have nothing to do with their race.
The very first two questions were very telling. Who has grown up in a family where your parents are both still married, and who has grown up with a father figure in your life?
Those two questions are what dictates the answers to the following questions. This whole experiment totally proved my point of the post I had made a few before this about stronger families are what is going to help these communities the most.
 
This whole experiment totally proved my point of the post I had made a few before this about stronger families are what is going to help these communities the most.

I think the left and the right can agree on that, the problem is that they don't agree on why black people don't have stronger families. The right says it's cultural and the left says it's systemic. I think there's probably a little of both going on, like I do with most of these issues...
 
I agree. What will this eventually lead to as a white male? Get passed over for jobs even if I have more skills and experience?

The last few years have seen to REALLY make white males seem like a very very very bad then. And I fear it might eventually lead to a massive problem.

I mean I can’t even talk about sensitive topics that much anymore because the response I get is “You are just a white male”

I think the main thing to remember is that the world isn't a zero sum game and there is plenty of pie for everyone to go around. I like these initiatives, but do agree that the current temperature towards while males feels hostile in many contexts.

I understand that some groups might think this is just because while males want to protect their status/etc/etc and feel threatened, but we do need to balance conversations to aim for equality and not just endlessly give advantages to cultures based on race alone.

I've definitely witnessed some conversations where any comment at all by a white male is quickly attacked as sexist or evil, and it feels quite unbalanced.
 
I am always staggered by Apple in this regard.

All the talk and the various people they show in the adverts buying their products.
And yet you take a look at Apple's own top people on their website:

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its only $100million as a one off. Apple spends more on marketing in a week.
whether you’re for or against this, it really isn’t a big announcement.
 
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First time I’ve ever seen that. I like it a lot. However all of those things that “underserved and under represented”have had to live with have nothing to do with their race.
The very first two questions were very telling. Who has grown up in a family where your parents are both still married, and who has grown up with a father figure in your life?
Those two questions are what dictates the answers to the following questions. This whole experiment totally proved my point of the post I had made a few before this about stronger families are what is going to help these communities the most.
The biggest predictors for future outcomes in the US are did you graduate high school and do you come from a stable household with married parents. If you meet both of those the chances you end up living in poverty or go to prison are very low.
 
I think the left and the right can agree on that, the problem is that they don't agree on why black people don't have stronger families. The right says it's cultural and the left says it's systemic. I think there's probably a little of both going on, like I do with most of these issues...
It can be tied back to Democrat policies under Johnson in the 60's, encouraging mothers to have children out of wedlock in return for welfare, which changed the culture. Larry Elder does a great piece on this. The rates of children born into a fatherless household skyrocketed and so did crime and poverty.
 
Absolutely disgusting and appalling to wish death on someone for petty theft. I'm sure you've violated the law in your life - should you be brutally killed as well?

The delusion and hypocrisy is mind-bending. Smh.
I agree with what you’re saying but petty theft was his most minor offense. Wishing death on anyone however isn’t a good thing. Even if that person stuck a gun to a pregnant lady’s stomach while she was being robbed.
And yet Hispanics sit next to African Americans in certain metrics of achievements despite many being able to pass for white.

Yeah, you have to wonder if that is because of a language barrier or not.
 
Well, I don't know that that specific cop is being praised as a hero, but some of the cops who were present are. It's difficult. I think many of us recognize that there is a need for police but we don't want to see them abusing their position. I can't speak for all left-wingers, but I will say that I do not think Babbit should've been shot and I do not regard the cop who did that as a hero (and I'd be curious what the "blue lives matter" conservatives think about the actions of the police at the Capitol or what they thought when they were beating them).

If we're going to address the actions of police fairly then we can't focus only on instances when the person killed is sympathetic to us. We have to look at all police killings.
I absolutely agree with you. I have a love hate relationship with cops. They are very underpaid for what they do and they typically have to deal with people at their worst. Yet many of them are huge jerks and they do stuff like what was done to George Floyd. Yet many are also great and do risk their lives everyday. I know I wouldn’t want to be a cop.
 
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