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You know what : just bring real universal healthcare to your country similar to France, Japan, Italy, etc.., and at least 30% of your social issues will be solved overnight without the constant need to begging for donations from rich corporations. It’s all related. When people are constantly at risk of becoming homeless because they ( or their children) have fallen sick, it creates all sorts of tensions within society.
Also, free education.

peace.
I come from a country with those things. Government run healthcare sucks and free (higher I'm assuming) education devalues it to the point where every idiot goes to college to get a degree because why not?

Also it's not free, please stop pushing that false narrative. I pay far less in taxes + healthcare in the US than I did in Europe and the healthcare I've received in the US is far better and quicker than back home, my taxes are probably not far off half of what I paid. I dread to think how bad universal healthcare would be in the US judging by the state of the VA or any government run anything here - hell, look at the DMV.

The left in the US think universal healthcare would be like high end private healthcare but with the tax payer footing the bill. The reality couldn't be further from the truth.
 
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If you make $100,000 a year and I announce I’m giving your coworker, who makes $20,000 a year a big raise, am I somehow taking something away from you? No.

Same is true here. Opportunities, funding, etc. for minorities lags far behind that for whites as a whole. Does that mean all white people are rich? Absolutely not. But in general being white means access to a lot more opportunities and advantages than not being white.

Apple (and others) are seeking to help those communities catch up, to be able to have a more equitable chance to join fields like programming and engineering.

Put it another way. If we are running a race and I get to start 100m away from the goal and you have to start 200m away, letting you move 100m closer isn’t punishing me, it’s making sure we both have a fair chance to compete. That’s what Apple et. al. are trying to do here, help move everyone closer to the same starting point. It’s a good thing to do. It’s the right thing to do.
Thank you.
 
Does this mean my kids will have their college applications based purely on merit and not require higher SAT/ACT scores than other groups or is this just 'equality for me but not for thee'?

I cannot stand virtue signaling from trillion dollar companies who make money from borderline forced labour in a country that runs concentration camps. The hypocrisy is unreal. If Apple actually cared about child labour or Uygurs in concentration camps instead of virtue signaled they wouldn't support the CCP by building their products there.

Same goes for Nike, the poster child for third world sweat shops talking about racial equality.
Exactly some people on here label everyone a white supremacist and racist because they seee everyone as equal and refuse to beleive other wise lol the only racists in here are the only that think we should act diffrent towards diffrent peoples skin colour
 
I don’t think having racially segregated programs is going to help equality. If you want equality you have to treat people equal. It’s in the word equality. If you treat one race different or have different things whether that be separate bathrooms, schools, or programs for different races that’s not equality
 
I find the language around "equity" concerning, truth be told.

Equality means everyone has the same opportunities, equity means everyone has the same outcomes.

An example of this at my former university:

The physics department noticed how over 90% of their Master's students were male, so they actively started treating female applicants preferentially. The other departments saw that as a brilliant move and started doing the same. So now faculties that already had way more female than male students implemented programmes to further grant preferential treatment to women, and the physics department, due to a total lack of female applicants, stayed 90% male.

The problem is assuming that every unequal outcome stems from unequal opportunities.
Certain people should be mute about this topic.
 
America such a racist country even tho elected a black president for 8 years, oh and im sure all the rappers feel so opressed in their mansions and the sport people like nba players mostly black are under privileged lol give me a break the only people that have issues are the racists
Race relations went lower during Obama's reign. Can you guess why? Because correlation does not imply causation. It's because certain folk did not enjoy having a black man as president and became angrier and angrier and blamed that man, as the billionaires continued to laugh and take their jobs offshore, all whilst setting up news networks and paying politicians to spread their message of how it was the evil socialist communists' fault. It's like something out of a Scooby doo cartoon, but it's a real tragedy.
 
If you make $100,000 a year and I announce I’m giving your coworker, who makes $20,000 a year a big raise, am I somehow taking something away from you? No.

Same is true here. Opportunities, funding, etc. for minorities lags far behind that for whites as a whole. Does that mean all white people are rich? Absolutely not. But in general being white means access to a lot more opportunities and advantages than not being white.

Apple (and others) are seeking to help those communities catch up, to be able to have a more equitable chance to join fields like programming and engineering.

Put it another way. If we are running a race and I get to start 100m away from the goal and you have to start 200m away, letting you move 100m closer isn’t punishing me, it’s making sure we both have a fair chance to compete. That’s what Apple et. al. are trying to do here, help move everyone closer to the same starting point. It’s a good thing to do. It’s the right thing to do.
These people will never get it. Well said though
 
If you make $100,000 a year and I announce I’m giving your coworker, who makes $20,000 a year a big raise, am I somehow taking something away from you? No.
If I made a chip that produced 10 billion for the company and my coworker made photocopies of their rear, than yes. That money could have gone to the person who produced the funds. Would you ask the person who makes $20,000 to take a big pay cut if it was a bad year for the company?
 
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Put it another way. If we are running a race and I get to start 100m away from the goal and you have to start 200m away, letting you move 100m closer isn’t punishing me, it’s making sure we both have a fair chance to compete. That’s what Apple et. al. are trying to do here, help move everyone closer to the same starting point. It’s a good thing to do. It’s the right thing to do.

this sounds like you are making up handicaps and applying it naively across the board. What if someone started ahead because of the work they put in beforehand? That doesn’t really seem “fair”
 
Race relations went lower during Obama's reign. Can you guess why? Because correlation does not imply causation. It's because certain folk did not enjoy having a black man as president and became angrier and angrier and blamed that man, as the billionaires continued to laugh and take their jobs offshore, all whilst setting up news networks and paying politicians to spread their message of how it was the evil socialist communists' fault. It's like something out of a Scooby doo cartoon, but it's a real tragedy.
Yep, a real 'Whitelash'
 
As much as I am against the perverted idea of ‘Social Justice’ being a higher priority than actual justice, I don’t think it is wrong to donate whatever you want to whatever groups you want.
Do I think that Apple is fixing/helping resolve any long term issues by donating the $100 million? No.
Is this $100 million going to help a lot of people? You bet it is.
Is the fact that those people are going to be helped going to affect my personal life in any way? Probably not.

If I were to say that their actions are inherently evil then I would be calling myself evil for donating to a charity I think is more deserving than another.

As long as Apple doesn’t try to force others to do the same thing as them through means of governmental change... if it doesn’t pick my pocket... Go ahead
 
I’m the bad guy for thinking black people are as equal as anyone else and they deserve the same respect and I feel they should not be treated based on skin colour, sorry I refuse to think white people are Inferior how very racist of me, everyone is equal in a free country the law protects it
 
If you don't think there are racial injustices in the world today, especially toward minorities, then you are part of the problem or live a very sheltered life.
Such a presupposed statement. Of course there is, it doesn't mean I agree racial injustice is the be all and end all of all problems and is massively inflamed by main stream media using it to split apart countries.

Take the US, if racism is such an endemic issue why are Nigerian (immigrant) Americans and Indian (immigrant) Americans two of the most successful ethnic groups?
 
You know what : just bring real universal healthcare to your country similar to France, Japan, Italy, etc.., and at least 30% of your social issues will be solved overnight without the constant need to begging for donations from rich corporations. It’s all related. When people are constantly at risk of becoming homeless because they ( or their children) have fallen sick, it creates all sorts of tensions within society.
Also, free education.
Well people have to get to work, too right? So everyone deserves a free car. And people need food and water to live so that should be free too. Just make everything free! Problem solved!
 
I don’t think having racially segregated programs is going to help equality. If you want equality you have to treat people equal. It’s in the word equality. If you treat one race different or have different things whether that be separate bathrooms, schools, or programs for different races that’s not equality
U shouldn’t comment on this, some people have been oppressed for so long they need things like this, obviously u don’t get it.
I am willing to bet You are a “all lives matter person”
 
Such a presupposed statement. Of course there is, it doesn't mean I agree racial injustice is the be all and end all of all problems and is massively inflamed by main stream media using it to split apart countries.

Take the US, if racism is such an endemic issue why are Nigerian (immigrant) Americans and Indian (immigrant) Americans two of the most successful ethnic groups?
It's easier to blame someone else than it is to take responsibility. Blame the rich, White, Asians, *insert group*.
 
For apple to do this they are assuming black people are oppressed and don’t get the same respect and life choices that in its self is racist
The old 'its racist to expose racism' argument. Lets all pretend all is fair and okay with the world, so long as that continues the system of white supremacy.

Those days are coming to an end. Didn't 2020 teach you that?
 
U shouldn’t comment on this, some people have been oppressed for so long they need things like this, obviously u don’t get it.
I am willing to bet You are a “all lives matter person”
Stop attacking people for having there voice I don’t agree with all lives matter as well, life matters on life choices not skin colour, if your a good or bad person
 
As a Jew in America, the best/most free country in the world, I can confidently say that we do not need this.
As another Jew in America, I not only disagree heartily but think most American Jews would as well. We know that the present is shaped by the past, and to ignore the centuries of racial oppression African-Americans were dealt, or to pretend that it hasn’t left a destructive and pernicious legacy of exactly the sort Apple is seeking to redress, is to live in an alternate reality.
 
The old 'its racist to expose racism' argument. Lets all pretend all is fair and okay with the world, so long as that continues the system of white supremacy.

Those days are coming to an end. Didn't 2020 teach you that?
You do know white supremacy is a tiny amount of people that have no power lol again not everyone is racist to say black people are equal yes 2021 is mad if you say black people are equal your a bad person lol the blm riots killed a black officer so much for caring about black people
 
Again no one can say, name one think and right in america does a white person have over a black person, what can’t black people do that only whites can?!? I’m waiting all the black trump supporters get called racist every day says it all really either your part of the radical left that wants to divide everyone based on race and sexuality or your a racist
 
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