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I’m not against these efforts by any means but isn’t supporting what are essentially black only schools and facilities the opposite of equality? Sometimes it feels like we are going backwards.
No because it is time black own businesses get the recognition and equal support to non black owned businesses.
 
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all stuff like this is doing is causing more of a racial divide and more racial problems before BLM no one really cared about skin colour people just got on with their lives, this has caused problems between people all we here about is black vs white 24/7 this is my issue we was much better before all this and don't tell me blm is a good movement they spend 7 months burning cities to the ground while democrats supported them
 
No because it is time black own businesses get the recognition and equal support to non black owned businesses.
and they do show me evidence that they don't, again no one can prove to me black and brown people don't get the same human rights as white people, im still waiting
 
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U shouldn’t comment on this, some people have been oppressed for so long they need things like this, obviously u don’t get it.
I am willing to bet You are a “all lives matter person”
What's wrong with not supporting a violent marxist organization? Nothing wrong what so ever with saying 'all lives matter'. Some of us don't want to divide things up along racial lines and instead see fellow countrymen and women.
 
If you make $100,000 a year and I announce I’m giving your coworker, who makes $20,000 a year a big raise, am I somehow taking something away from you? No.

Same is true here. Opportunities, funding, etc. for minorities lags far behind that for whites as a whole. Does that mean all white people are rich? Absolutely not. But in general being white means access to a lot more opportunities and advantages than not being white.

Apple (and others) are seeking to help those communities catch up, to be able to have a more equitable chance to join fields like programming and engineering.

Put it another way. If we are running a race and I get to start 100m away from the goal and you have to start 200m away, letting you move 100m closer isn’t punishing me, it’s making sure we both have a fair chance to compete. That’s what Apple et. al. are trying to do here, help move everyone closer to the same starting point. It’s a good thing to do. It’s the right thing to do.
You are arguing for anti-poverty measures and not specifically anti-racism measures, though poverty is definitely a symptom of systemic racism, racism isn't the only cause of poverty and it is a disease that stretches across racial lines.
 
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Apple, a private company, decides it wants to spend it own money on an initiative that will benefit itself and others.

So why are people triggered by this???
That's not actually true. It is a public company and has a legal duty to maximize profit for shareholders. They can't actually do what they want without getting in legal trouble with the SEC and shareholders.

Not commenting on this being good or not, just they do have a number of legal obligations and rules.
 
It’s not racist to say or think White people feel like they are being pushed away, since blm Netflix Disney plus etc have black categories and it’s all you hear about from company’s that want to be woke and progressive, I have zero issues with anyone based on skin colour I treat others how I wanna be treated, stats just don’t agree that america is racist, yeah there are bad people everywhere but the law and majority isn’t like that, this is just annoying people because certain people don’t feel equal anymore
They also have lgbtq categories. Latin. Horror. Romance. What’s the issue with having a black specific category? More importantly I really wish you people would learn what Black Lives Matter meant instead of trying to make it sound like something bad.

you may not be racist but this country is based off racism. The murder of native Americans who were here first, the enslavement of blacks. The fact this country has been led by a xenophobic man who tries to label immigrants as bad people.
That’s literally the very definition of racism.
 
No because it is time black own businesses get the recognition and equal support to non black owned businesses.
Did I miss something? What does that have to do with this announcement? I’m all for minority owned businesses. This isn’t that. This is Apple setting up schools in historically black neighborhoods to show people how to work in their iOS factories.
 
I worked at an Apple Store in the early 2000's. My store was in the richest, nicest mall in our city. Guess what? Stuff was still stolen. On weekends, we'd hire extra security. Not because it was in 'south-central' - but because it was simply desirable to steal.
At least you had a store there as I said try to find a store in these areas of sudden interest.
 
People should read NYT journalist Nikole Hannah-Jones' Pulitzer-winning essay from the 1619 Project for a better understanding of what lead up to where we are today with respect to racial injustice in the United States. It's beautifully written and worth the effort soaking in the history of the country's last 400 years.
 
They’re publicly traded but I don’t think that prevents them from doing whatever they want with their money. I guess their shareholders could sue if they feel it’s not in the best interest of the company but other than that I don’t see a problem. I don’t agree with segregated programs but I feel Apple has the right to do what they want to do.
They can't actually do whatever they want with their money. There's a lot of legal and fiscal responsibilities, maximize shareholder return for example. Not saying they can't do this, it's a PR stunt. But to say they can do whatever they wish is not correct.
 
and they do show me evidence that they don't, again no one can prove to me black and brown people don't get the same human rights as white people, im still waiting
Look at the stats? Black owned business often don’t get the support they need and wind up failing. Anyone who takes a basic economy class knows this.

I’m entitled to the same rights as you. Just like a Hispanic person or Muslim. But compared to blacks/Latin/Muslim etc, you don’t have to worry about being judged based on your color or natural attributes.

I was told the other day by a white guy im less attractive when I wear my hear naturally curly than when I straighten it.

I was told by my friend I didn’t get a job I was qualified for because while the hiring manager didn’t have an issue with me being trans the general manager did despite me being well qualified.

we may have the same rights on paper. But we don’t have the same lifestyles because you don’t have to fear that someone is targeting you because of your race or gender or sexuality the same way that people of color, trans, and gay individuals do.

that’s what we call the privilege of being white in America.

also known as being oblivious and willfully so.
 
Shocker! The racists are already out in full force.
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In the apple shops you can see they hire every type of person to look good but most know nothing I remember one guy saying the new iPhone has usb c port lol they care more about so called equality than hiring the best people for the good, no person of colour has any less opportunity than anyone else in america, this is all because of blm and making the company look good, just focus on making good tech I noticed Tim Cook has put pronouns in his twitter bio

my experience has been the total opposite at Apple stores. I feel like they tend to hire people who enjoy tech as a hobby, so generally know more than someone that is hired because of retail experience. People who enjoy Apple products and use them in their daily lives, probably follow the the products closely.
 
Look at the stats? Black owned business often don’t get the support they need and wind up failing. Anyone who takes a basic economy class knows this.

I’m entitled to the same rights as you. Just like a Hispanic person or Muslim. But compared to blacks/Latin/Muslim etc, you don’t have to worry about being judged based on your color or natural attributes.

I was told the other day by a white guy im less attractive when I wear my hear naturally curly than when I straighten it.

I was told by my friend I didn’t get a job I was qualified for because while the hiring manager didn’t have an issue with me being trans the general manager did despite me being well qualified.

we may have the same rights on paper. But we don’t have the same lifestyles because you don’t have to fear that someone is targeting you because of your race or gender or sexuality the same way that people of color, trans, and gay individuals do.

that’s what we call the privilege of being white in America.

also known as being oblivious and willfully so.
I get that and you make some good points but if it’s not fair for say a Black person to go for a job interview say at apple stores and get the job because they don’t wanna seeem not equal and he wouldn’t get the job based on skills but based on skin colour see how to me it seems unfair
 
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If people are being disadvantage due to the colour of their skin or ethnicity, you do not bypass the issue by building oppertunites for them, you tackle the problem head on. If an education establishment is not taking in certain types of people it's because of the racist people in that establishment making those decisions. Get rid of those people. If companies do not hire people of certain types, again it's because of the racist people making the decisions not to hire them. You get rid of those people.

It should always be 'the best person for the job' , regardless of skin colour or ethnicity. If these people are refused a job or an education place based on those criteria then the focus should be on those who make the decsion and to get rid of them. You do not avoid the issue by building education establishments specifically for them or creating companies to hire them.

People may applaud Apple for what they are doing but in my opinion it is wrong.
 
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