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Apple Launches OS X Lion Via Mac App Store

Seriously Apple, Why The Face? D/L started at 2mbps and has crawled to a pitiful 200kbps. Also for some reason the download bar isn't updating anymore.
 
discosoap said:
Yes, so it appears. I am not sure whether it's OCZ, Apple or 3rd party from whom we could expect a solution.. Anyone got any idea??
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It's Apple actively blocking TRIM on drives that don't have an Apple ID.

Look up a hack called "TRIMEnabler" - it will disable the specific check in the driver so that any drive that claims to have TRIM support will get it.

Apple's done some pretty shady things before, but disabling an ATA standard command for TRIM if you didn't buy the drive from Apple is a new low.


benthewraith said:
If your SSD has aggressive GC or is Sandforce-based, don't enable.
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Why the warning - I thought that it was generally understood that TRIM helps Sandforce and other GC controllers do an even better job.
 
AidenShaw said:
It's Apple actively blocking TRIM on drives that don't have an Apple ID.

Look up a hack called "TRIMEnabler" - it will disable the specific check in the driver so that any drive that claims to have TRIM support will get it.

Apple's done some pretty low things before, but disabling an ATA standard for TRIM if you didn't buy the drive from Apple is a new low.




Why the warning - I thought that it was generally understood that TRIM helps Sandforce and other GC controllers do an even better job.
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The Enabler doesn't work well with some SSDs. I'm not sure whether it's Apple's implementation of TRIM or the enabler itself.
 
Firewall.

Seriously WTF?
I think I remember that when I installed SL the security prefs had been changed, Lo and behold after download and installation, I was checking through it and - firewall is off and accepting all incoming connections, this surely can't be good?!
 
Well, what do you know...

Yesterday I bought a brand new 2011 Macbook Pro for the express purpose of making sure I got a current laptop that still came with a Snow Leopard install disk.

After seeing all the stories of bugs and problems and strange new 'changes' in Lion, I'm more glad than ever I made that choice.

Had I waited any longer, the crap store Lion would have been shoved down my throat and I would have had no alternative. No way to back out.

Frankly, I never understood why all the fanboys were so stoked about Lion in the first place. Especially after the Final Cut X dumb down, I had a feeling this was going to be another case of Apple 'simplifying' things to the detriment of those who actually aren't 'afraid' of computers.
 
AidenShaw said:
It's Apple actively blocking TRIM on drives that don't have an Apple ID.

Look up a hack called "TRIMEnabler" - it will disable the specific check in the driver so that any drive that claims to have TRIM support will get it.

Apple's done some pretty shady things before, but disabling an ATA standard command for TRIM if you didn't buy the drive from Apple is a new low.




Why the warning - I thought that it was generally understood that TRIM helps Sandforce and other GC controllers do an even better job.
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benthewraith said:
The Enabler doesn't work well with some SSDs. I'm not sure whether it's Apple's implementation of TRIM or the enabler itself.
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I believe I've read about the same stuff.. Mr Groth says he has 1.2 ready by the way: http://www.groths.org/?p=461 Version 2.0 of Trim enabler is coming soon... I have used 1.0 before and that sucked...

while Mr Pannell says we shouldn't use Trim enabler 1.1 (because it apparently replaces a critical kernel extension):

http://digitaldj.net/2011/07/21/trim-enabler-for-lion/

Uch, who to believe.. :confused:

I am a bit worried about the state of Trim on Lion...
 
In my opinion TRIM is a bit overrated. Ok it helps the write-speed somewhat. Since without TRIM the SSD needs to delete-write insted of write. However, who cares if the files are written with 200MB/s insted of 240MB/s.

TRIM has no effect on reading from the SSD and thus, won't affect the computer for like 99% of the time.

Get over it!
 
Could someone kindly point me to a guide for how to install Lion on a brand new empty hard disk. I will be using new blank disk without a previous OS installed.

I have already created a bootable USB drive from the download.

I just need to know how to partition or format the drive correctly.

If you have already done this please shed some light on the process.

Thanks
 
Zoddino said:
It actually works but you don't have to erase the WHOLE drive partitioning, but simply format the drive Macintosh HD or whatever its name is. If you don't do this you'll get stuck at the recovery partition and Lion wants to connect to Apple to download extra stuff which you don't need. Format but don't touch partitioning and it will clean install like Snow Leopard, i just did it =)
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Still no luck.
I cancelled my clean Snow Leopard install to try this and the same problem.
Right at the end it jumps from 5 minutes to 5 hours and gives the can't download additional component message.

Seriously, am I the only one with this issue?
 
Zimmy68 said:
Still no luck.
I cancelled my clean Snow Leopard install to try this and the same problem.
Right at the end it jumps from 5 minutes to 5 hours and gives the can't download additional component message.

Seriously, am I the only one with this issue?
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Must be something wrong with the burning to the disk. Did you write-and-verify ?
 
ermm lion is loaded but I have lost all my stuff on the desk top and all the photos in iPhoto, its asking got create a iPhoto !!! where it all gone ? can i go back to leopard ? to find it
 
Office 11 and VM Fusion?

Anyone know if Office 11 has any issues? I can't upgrade until I know for sure and I know some of their components were/are still PowerPC (XML for Excel for example).

Also, I saw somewhere someone mention VMware Fusion being buggy. Can anyone else chime in with their experiences so far with VMware Fusion 3.1.3?

Thanks in advance
 
VMWare fusion works fine as far as I can tell. Running Windows XP SP3 and windows 7 ran fine too
 
downloaded and install

Well, i wasn't impressed with what apple has previewed of lion but i downloaded and installed just to be current.

nothing here impresses me at all. not even mail. and I'm the guy that loves new software. I wouldn't be negative except for the fact that animations seem buggy, jittery. and theres new dialog boxes that spring up like some annoying teenager begging for your attention jumping in front of your face (stupid).

Also, things don't seem quicker at all. Im on a i7, 27" 2010 iMac with 16 gigs of ram.

I'm sure it will get better.


Edit: I keep on thinking...i must be missing something. I know this is more of a marrying for OSX and iOS to support the halo affect but it doesn't seem more than that. Just a bridge. Time to go read that Ars Technica article. underwhelming at best, but its good to be current.


Edit: I changed my mind after reading the are technica article
http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2011/07/mac-os-x-10-7.ars

It seems that theres a lot of work going on to bring OSX into the future.
 
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So is this normal? The download for Lion went smooth. When I clicked on the installer and I chose my "Macintosh HD" (no tricky stuff like some of you are doing with trying to install on external drives, etc.) it restarted like normal and began installing saying, it would take about 32 minutes. Then, when it got down to "Time remaining: About 18 minutes" it seems to have stuck on that for the past half hour! Progress bar not progressing at all!

I don't know if I should leave it and hope it finishes, or if there is something wrong and I should do a hard reboot and try again? But this shouldn't be happening at all; my computer meets the requirements, I purchased on the Mac App Store, and I have plenty of free space on the main HD (200 GB free on a 500 GB drive.) Any advice or suggestions greatly appreciated while I sit here and wait... :(
 
The Beatles said:
Well, i wasn't impressed with what apple has previewed of lion but i downloaded and installed just to be current.

nothing here impresses me at all. not even mail. and I'm the guy that loves new software. I wouldn't be negative except for the fact that animations seem buggy, jittery. and theres new dialog boxes that spring up like some annoying teenager begging for your attention jumping in front of your face (stupid).

Also, things don't seem quicker at all. Im on a i7, 27" 2010 iMac with 16 gigs of ram.

I'm sure it will get better.
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Cool. Moving on...
 
infowarfare said:
So is this normal? The download for Lion went smooth. When I clicked on the installer and I chose my "Macintosh HD" (no tricky stuff like some of you are doing with trying to install on external drives, etc.) it restarted like normal and began installing saying, it would take about 32 minutes. Then, when it got down to "Time remaining: About 18 minutes" it seems to have stuck on that for the past half hour!

I don't know if I should leave it and hope it finishes, or if there is something wrong and I should do a hard reboot and try again? But this shouldn't be happening at all; my computer meets the requirements, I purchased on the Mac App Store, and I have plenty of free space on the main HD (200 GB free on a 500 GB drive.) Any advice or suggestions greatly appreciated while I sit here and wait... :(
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With about that much time my install got stuck for probably about 20 minutes before it resumed. I know yours has been longer, but hopefully there's no issue and it will continue to install. Maybe someone else can chime in with some info, but just wanted to let you know it's not hopeless.

Good luck!
 
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