Apple Launches Retina MacBook Pros with Faster Haswell Processors, More RAM Standard

[fpsBeaTt]

A million up votes and stars for that comment.

The entitlement behavior of the few who always want the latest, are never satisfied with what is being offered is nauseating.

If it is so easy to pull out the next generation of faster chips and bring them to production, develop your own.

If people would wait for every product to be perfect (as in their personal liking)
in the tech area, wed never buy anything.

What a vapid comment. People are expressing, in a variety of different ways, their irritation that a premium brand is charging a premium price for out of date technology.

The 750m is pathetic today, it was pathetic when it was launched (although there was nothing better at the time, so that's in no way Apple's fault), being a rebranded 650m. Today, the 850m is available, and offers a significant performance increases; Apple neglected to include this, which is especially apparent in combination with a lack of available CPU improvements.

So yes, there is a sense of entitlement, which is ENTIRELY JUSTIFIED; people who spend $2500+ on a brand new MBP have a completely reasonable expectation that they'll be getting graphical hardware that isn't a hangover from 2012.

 

[vault]

Were you expecting Apple to invent a time machine and travel to the future to get new chips from Intel?

Apple could do so much more with it's laptops without even touching the CPU.

Where is the Maxwell GPU?
Where's the long awaited IPS IGZO screen?
Where's the new NVMe SSD?
Or how about the WWAN interface I've been waiting for for years.

But of course, it would require some effort on Apple's part so they won't do it. So much easier to just drop in a slightly refreshed CPU.

So yes, there is a sense of entitlement, which is ENTIRELY JUSTIFIED; people who spend $2500+ on a brand new MBP have a completely reasonable expectation that they'll be getting graphical hardware that isn't a hangover from 2012.

Exactly.

 

[Neodym]

Why are the majority of people on here blaming Apple for the lack of updates? It's Intel's fault, it's really as simple as that.

You are aware that a computer consists of much more (updateable) components than just the (Intel) CPU, aren't you?

 

[fpsBeaTt]

I'm fairly certain he's referring to this abrupt refresh being because the Broadwell release being too late for a major refresh in 2014, and that's all on Intel. As for not updating the discrete GPU, why would they, knowing that it would be one less improvement to drive sales of the 2015 rMBP? Apple realizes that their yearly refresh has somewhat painted them into a corner. It's become expected. The processor upgrade is meant to maintain the image that they aren't just standing still and to make it a bit more attractive to buyers that, for whatever reason, cannot hold off a purchase until the Broadwell refresh drops.

That isn't exactly a shining justification for screwing over their customers.

 

[iStrikeRx]

They actually reduced the price in the UK for the MBP 13. I just bought an Air for the same price 2 days ago. It has half the RAM and a much worse off screen, on top of a dead pixel.

I've been scammed.

 

[SDAVE]

People spend soooo much time drooling over little changes here and there instead of buying what's here.

Your 200Mhz speed bump is not going to make your life great. Your Broadwell upgrade is not going to revolutionize mobile computing. Your 850m upgrade is not going to make you do better work.

I guess it's a public forum and you can voice your opinions, but seeing all these frustrated people vent reminds me of nerdy guys in their mothers basements just complaining all the time instead of being productive and doing their work.

I can still do kick ass work on a 2008 Mac Pro. Yes it feels sluggish by todays standards but it's still helluva machine. The 2013 Retina is the same speed as the 2008 Mac Pro 2x Quad Core, so it's still amazing to me that a LAPTOP can be a desktop.


/vent off

 

[Alphabetize]

All I really care about now in the MacBooks is GPU. Perfect size, weight, screen, speed, battery, RAM, but need more GPU power though!

 

[porky]

Why are the majority of people on here blaming Apple for the lack of updates? It's Intel's fault, it's really as simple as that.

Just be grateful that Apple are updating them and stop being grumpy.

the videocard isn't. Every laptop manufacturer is using geforce 850M now.

 

[kushari]

A fusion drive is both an SSD and a spinning HD.
Basic stuff that should be in the mbp's.
SSD for OS and apps and spinning HD for data.
Until everyone can afford the 1TB+ SSD's ofc.

Blame Apple for taking out the superdrive and making it thinner instead of sticking in an SSD+HD combo (i.e. Fusion Drive)

If all you do is surf the web and check your emails then ya, sure, a single small SSD will be fine for you.
I make music and video.
I already have to keep offloading my music, video and photo's onto an external drive every few months with my current 256GB SSD + 1.5TB HD late 2011 mbp.

...and don't start going on about the "average consumer". This is meant to be a Pro laptop.

Fusion drive make no sense in a Macbook Pro. Macbook Pros are made for exactly that, Professionals, that need speed. An sshd will just make things much slower. Also They wouldn't fit most probably, the retinas are too slim and have no space for one. Even if they did, it wouldn't even be a 2.5 drive. You don't know what you're talking about.

 

[GoCubsGo]

As it has happened in the past, the quiet overnight "refresh" is merely a small bump that I believe Apple does because they believe it continues to make them seem relevant. It seems to work; however, I do think they could have figured out a bump in the GPU on all models or at least that 13" model. Also, with flash storage these days being more and more common, it would be nice if the base were 256 and not 128. For me to pick up a 13" today, I still need to drop nearly $2k.


Ummmm…

Today's minor refresh is primarily a stopgap measure until Apple can launch a more significant update to its Retina MacBook Pro line once Intel's next-generation Broadwell processors hit the market. Broadwell chips appropriate for the MacBook Pro may, however, not arrive until mid-2015.

Hey MR writer, how about inserting something along the lines of "likely" instead of this matter-of-fact claim about the refresh. You do not know what Apple will do anymore than my cat does. Though you're likely right, what if you're not and how do you know? Also, the second sentence reads weird with the comma use.

Two grand for a laptop that still only comes with a one year warranty is just plain greedy. At that price it should come with at least two years free.

Don't you have some kind of extended warranty under some UK law?
But I see your point nonetheless.

Fusion drive make no sense in a Macbook Pro. Macbook Pros are made for exactly that, Professionals, that need speed. An sshd will just make things much slower. Also They wouldn't fit most probably, the retinas are too slim and have no space for one. Even if they did, it wouldn't even be a 2.5 drive. You don't know what you're talking about.

A MacBook Pro has long since been a laptop for all. Pro has nothing to do with the user base anymore. This was how it worked at least a decade ago, but not today. Pro is just a moniker that means nothing. I see more teenagers wandering around with so-called pro machines. Now they're kings and queens of Facebook, I'm sure, but they're no "pro" by definition.

 

[Cryra]

This is such a ball ache for me.

I need a laptop for UNi this October, however, I really wanted it to be a redesign; I don't want it to look dated within a year.

Might wait till 2015 - decisions.

Anyone reckon we could see a Black Macbook Pro next year? I'd love that

 

[GoCubsGo]

This is such a ball ache for me.

I need a laptop for UNi this October, however, I really wanted it to be a redesign; I don't want it to look dated within a year.

Might wait till 2015 - decisions.

Anyone reckon we could see a Black Macbook Pro next year? I'd love that

HAH who are you? Dated? Good god. The machine you can buy today will get you through many years of University. Hell, my PowerBook from my grad school days is still kicking nearly a decade later. It will not look dated in a year and seriously, if this is your concern then good luck with things.

 

[ValSalva]

Why blame Intel? Are you blaming Apple for not yet having updated the Mac Mini, the TB Display, or last year Apple taking so long to update the Mac Pro? Even better where is the iWatch? Probably not because you would probably justify it as Apple taking the time to get it right. Why not give Intel the same benefit.

How can one not blame Intel for the Broadwell delay? That's why we get a paltry 200MHz speed bump in 2014 for the MBP's and almost nothing for the MBA's.

However I'm not blaming Intel for not refreshing the Mac mini. That's all on Apple. I'm not sure about a new TB Display. Apple may be waiting for either a pixel doubled 2560x1440 display and/or the technology to drive that display.

 

[barkmonster]

A fusion drive is both an SSD and a spinning HD.
Basic stuff that should be in the mbp's.
SSD for OS and apps and spinning HD for data.
Until everyone can afford the 1TB+ SSD's ofc.

Blame Apple for taking out the superdrive and making it thinner instead of sticking in an SSD+HD combo (i.e. Fusion Drive)

If all you do is surf the web and check your emails then ya, sure, a single small SSD will be fine for you.
I make music and video.
I already have to keep offloading my music, video and photo's onto an external drive every few months with my current 256GB SSD + 1.5TB HD late 2011 mbp.

...and don't start going on about the "average consumer". This is meant to be a Pro laptop.

I use an external HDD with Pro Tools and have since LE 5. If I was buying a MacBook Pro, I'd be fine with a 256Gb SSD for apps and software synth patches with a fast SD Card for recording. I already have the drive in my sig for mass storage and my entire OS/apps fit on a 60Gb SSD with room to spare.

Save the arrogant presumption over your "professional" status over my "consumer" status to yourself. You're out of your depth.

 

[osofast240sx]

My '10 MacBook Pro has a 320GB hardrive and it's my work Machine. With all the apps that I have and around 25GB of photos I currently have around 80GB free (I have no music at all). I have three external hard drives but I do have some files on the machine (the ones I'm working on at a given time). BUT it's safe to say that I have OVER 128GB in apps.

So...no 128GB is not reasonable on a "Pro" Machine...IMO...

Let's put it this way is perfect for a entry level machine. If you're a pro and make money doing pro level work then you're not going to buy an entry-level machine

 

[jameskelly]

Wrong Spec.

You list the 13" Retina high end as an i7, this has only an i5, and is even shown as such in your picture.

Get it right please.

 

[Cryra]

HAH who are you? Dated? Good god. The machine you can buy today will get you through many years of University. Hell, my PowerBook from my grad school days is still kicking nearly a decade later. It will not look dated in a year and seriously, if this is your concern then good luck with things.



Pretty sure he has zero to do with that.

Well, I wouldn't use it for just UNi -everything. Even a good bit of gaming when I can, the high end MBP seems to have a decent card. I'm just not sure whether or not to wait for a more significant leap in the range.

I like the newest and greatest things, it's an expensive problem I know; no need for a reply like that though. Jheeze

 

[fpsBeaTt]

Well, I wouldn't use it for just UNi -everything. Even a good bit of gaming when I can, the high end MBP seems to have a decent card. I'm just not sure whether or not to wait for a more significant leap in the range.

I like the newest and greatest things, it's an expensive problem I know; no need for a reply like that though. Jheeze

Get an 11" air now, buy a top end MBP next refresh; the 750m is trash.

 

[Rogifan]

Apple could do so much more with it's laptops without even touching the CPU.

Where is the Maxwell GPU?
Where's the long awaited IPS IGZO screen?
Where's the new NVMe SSD?
Or how about the WWAN interface I've been waiting for for years.

But of course, it would require some effort on Apple's part so they won't do it. So much easier to just drop in a slightly refreshed CPU.


Exactly.

This is a minor refresh. Any bigger changes would not happen on a random Tuesday in July via press release. We should all know by now that bigger updates are announced either at WWDC or at an event in the fall.

 

[joueboy]

I hope this is not part of the best line up in 25 years

I hate to say this but you're wrong. It is the best line up in 25 years. I don't remember any laptop released by Apple better than this from design to spec wise. It may not up to your standard but Apple is been doing that for years. People makes fun on every upgrade they have in almost every product.

 

[Steve121178]

I need a laptop for UNi this October, however, I really wanted it to be a redesign; I don't want it to look dated within a year.

The beauty of Macs is that they always look cutting edge.

And excuse me for being blunt, but who cares what they look like? They are a work tool. Nothing more.

 

[Sandstorm]

There's a 1TB optional upgrade for the 15".

I see a 1TB option...

http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MGXA2LL/A&step=config

I know that. I was thinking about stock configuration. I live in a region (Baltic states) where Apple is still not yet present officially (only through resellers), so getting non-stock configurations is usually complicated and slow.

 

[Gasu E.]

ummm others have achieved it

http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-blade/

This supports the opposite of the point your were trying to make. The new Razer Blade has been heavily criticized for coming with a huge drop in battery life (as well as a major price increase over the previous generation). The poor battery life in particular, is the price of making a move out-of-sync with Intel.

Apple would be ripped if they made a move like this.

 

[Cryra]

Get an 11" air now, buy a top end MBP next refresh; the 750m is trash.

It is? Okay, thanks. Will look into it.

 

[Santabean2000]

I don't want a spinning drive or a superdrive in my computers. It's 2014!

If storage is an issue then get a NAS. No one needs to keep their entire photo/video/movie/music libraries with them at all times.

One of my movie projects in FCPX had over 200GB in raw footage. And then you add Motion, music etc. It adds up quickly.

Fusion drive make no sense in a Macbook Pro. Macbook Pros are made for exactly that, Professionals, that need speed. An sshd will just make things much slower. Also They wouldn't fit most probably, the retinas are too slim and have no space for one. Even if they did, it wouldn't even be a 2.5 drive. You don't know what you're talking about.

That's the point - we have slim, anaemic MBPs. I now have 2xSSDs in my 2012 MBP. Cheap, fast. Easy to manage AIO.