What is frustrating is that at every Apple keynote / Launch we are told about even faster CPU's, faster GPU's, e.g. "desktop class CPU" and "Console class graphics" and then they use a mobile OS? Wouldn't the Pro be ripe for a full OS, since it is described as being able to doing things a desktop or notebook cannot do [be interested what exactly those things might be?]
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Apple Launching A9X-Based 12.9" iPad Pro in November for $799+
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I tried to go for a long time with a Mac mini as my main computer, an iPad as my portable computer, and iPhone as my pocket computer. (Later added the Apple Watch as my wrist computer.)
Recently, the Mac mini started holding me back on some of the more high powered things I was trying to do with it. I also noticed that the iPad Air was sitting in my backpack more and more and only being used for Netflix about 3 times a week. Most times when I needed a portable computer, I was going to my iPhone 6 and neglecting to even think about the iPad. I tried getting a keyboard case and using it with iOS 9 beta for awhile to see if it could serve better as a makeshift laptop, and I was SORELY disappointed by the combination of iOS and a keyboard for productivity.
I am a HUGE fan of all things Apple, but I finally had to admit that the iPad was just not my thing anymore. It wasn't powerful enough to be my main computer (much like my Mac mini) and it wasn't convenient enough to choose over my iPhone. In fact, if I had to choose between leaving the house without my Apple Watch or leaving the house without my iPad, I'd leave the iPad at home every single time.
What I eventually did was sell the Mac mini AND the iPad Air, and get a 13" rMBP instead. For me, it has been a wonderful mix of power and portability with no compromises in hardware or software. Haven't missed my iPad for a second.
What I saw today with the iPad Pro did not change my mind at all. It's still iOS trying to be a computer, and it's still really just a tablet with a keyboard case. I do realize this is just Apple trying to shake things up a bit, but there is pretty good evidence now that most tablet users just use their tablets for Netflix and Facebook. I'm rooting for the iPad Pro, and I hope it takes hold in enterprise the way they want it to, but I just don't think tablets are the way of the future anymore.
Recently, the Mac mini started holding me back on some of the more high powered things I was trying to do with it. I also noticed that the iPad Air was sitting in my backpack more and more and only being used for Netflix about 3 times a week. Most times when I needed a portable computer, I was going to my iPhone 6 and neglecting to even think about the iPad. I tried getting a keyboard case and using it with iOS 9 beta for awhile to see if it could serve better as a makeshift laptop, and I was SORELY disappointed by the combination of iOS and a keyboard for productivity.
I am a HUGE fan of all things Apple, but I finally had to admit that the iPad was just not my thing anymore. It wasn't powerful enough to be my main computer (much like my Mac mini) and it wasn't convenient enough to choose over my iPhone. In fact, if I had to choose between leaving the house without my Apple Watch or leaving the house without my iPad, I'd leave the iPad at home every single time.
What I eventually did was sell the Mac mini AND the iPad Air, and get a 13" rMBP instead. For me, it has been a wonderful mix of power and portability with no compromises in hardware or software. Haven't missed my iPad for a second.
What I saw today with the iPad Pro did not change my mind at all. It's still iOS trying to be a computer, and it's still really just a tablet with a keyboard case. I do realize this is just Apple trying to shake things up a bit, but there is pretty good evidence now that most tablet users just use their tablets for Netflix and Facebook. I'm rooting for the iPad Pro, and I hope it takes hold in enterprise the way they want it to, but I just don't think tablets are the way of the future anymore.
In terms of stylus support, is the screen as pressure sensitive as the note 5/surface pro 3?
Either way all it is is a slightly larger iPad. Same mobile OS that doesn't have the applications most people use to make money as a pro.
I'm talking about desktop class software by the way.
Apple should really release an OSX tablet. It's the future considering what Intel are doing.
Either way all it is is a slightly larger iPad. Same mobile OS that doesn't have the applications most people use to make money as a pro.
I'm talking about desktop class software by the way.
Apple should really release an OSX tablet. It's the future considering what Intel are doing.
I hear that a lot!
Seriously, what is the point of this thing? Is this to compete with the surface?
I'd be interestd but a tricked out iPad pro with the needed case and pencil is macbook pro/air territory.
What the hell are you talking about? Wind your neck in with personal swipes at forum members as well.
He added is opinion, nothing wrong with that, in fact I agree with him.
I love it. This is product announcement I wanted, and I've been waiting for since the iPad was first revealed. That said, the stylus performance remains to be seen. Looking for hands on experiences now. One of my nagging concerns is that it's just an Apple branded n-Trig stylus. I feel like this is a possibility given MS was involved in the presentation today and they own n-Trig. I could see MS offering to license the tech in exchange for Apple plugging it's use in MS software on iOS. I'm really hoping it's an in-house Apple design and that performance is better than n-Trig. Tilt support is the only thing suggesting it's NOT n-Trig.
Too bad the Apple Pencil doesn't do anything on it's own without needing that iPad Pro with it. I would buy just the pencil. I always need good pencils.
They're thinking that for every person who thinks like you do, there are 10 more that don't care and will buy it no matter what it costs.
Similar, but fundementally different products. With the iPad Pro, you need to be willing to buy into iOS as a platform. The Surface gives you a full OS, which comes with a host of drawbacks as well. Both products are a compromise in some way, with iOS offering the superior form factor as far as hardware (fanless, no kickstand, long battery life, beautiful screen) and streamlined mobile software experience. The Surface offers 20 years of Windows applications and functionality along with it, but the hardware is also more in line with a laptop. Use it heavily and battery tanks, fans whir, and the device gets really hot.
It's optional, it has its own charger. Be glad you have that option when you are on the run.
I have seen the design for the pencil, it's something that can be copied but hard to make it working together with your device well, so kudos for Apple to put some thoughts in designing their stylus.
Hehe, quite funny to read this comic strip from 2012 today:
At first, I said to myself "Get it now!". Then I did the maths, and it is simply not worth it. As most of you guys pointed out, it will cost more than a 13" MBP, and around the price of a MB. Plus, I bet the revamped/new apps by Adobe and other pro software houses will cost quite a bit. No way to run OS X software, so you have to invest some money unless you want the stock apps. So why this over a laptop?
I also think the new Surface will be a iPadPro killer. I own a SP2, which I love despite being an old and chunky piece of hardware. Great screen, great stylus/pen support, and now even a decent OS like Windows 10. I can only imagine what the SP4 will do...
Sorry Apple, but you got this one too late. Good product, definitely. But not worth it.
I also think the new Surface will be a iPadPro killer. I own a SP2, which I love despite being an old and chunky piece of hardware. Great screen, great stylus/pen support, and now even a decent OS like Windows 10. I can only imagine what the SP4 will do...
Sorry Apple, but you got this one too late. Good product, definitely. But not worth it.
Hold on on that thoughts. The "at this point I believe Apple needs something more" has so many wrongness I can't even begin. But I am not going to convince anybody, so I either let you alone with your arguably very wrong thoughts or write a book to say otherwise. Never mind.
I dunno. It looks about like what I expected out of an iPad Pro, which makes it close, but still not directly comparable to the SP3. It has some minuses alongside its plusses, but overall, I think it's a pretty solid offering.
Show me where on Apple's page it explains the stylus functionality on your Macbook/MBA/MBP?
I understand iOS might now have the capabilities of more power intensive applications used on Macs/PCs but doesn't mean it's not capable. As mentioned, how exactly are you doing any of the writing/drawing functionality they demonstrated on you Mac, without adding additional hardware?
Or maybe they will have to put out competitive prices for the first time...
Seriously, I'd strongly prefer 3:2 aspect ratio or even 16:10, lower hight would make it much easier to handle and moving pictures 16:9 or less in hight...
Funny enough Ive Said they invented NNew technology for the "smart cover" that can transfer power and data without battery or Bluetooth. ....doesn't the surface cover do exactly that lolHehe, quite funny to read this comic strip from 2012 today:
The problem I see is with only 32GB, the $799 model is worthless. There is no 64GB model so you have to spend almost a thousand bucks to get the next model. They completely priced themselves out of my budget. If I'm going to spend that kind of money, I'd go ahead and buy a MB.
Wacom don't need to lower there prices because they are the best in the business. Some silly mobile device with a 100 dollar pencil won't even touch the performance of a Wacom I would imagine.
Not to mention did apple mention the pressure sensitivity of there pen input? Which is highly important for an artist.