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I think in the UK this will retail for £649 (inc VAT) for the 32GB version and £799 (incl VAT) for the 128GB version. That doesn't include the keyboard, which looks like it'll retail here for possibly as high as £149 (incl. VAT). The high end just isn't worth it, you can get a refurbished 2015 13 inch retina Macbook Pro for £849 (incl VAT) with 8GB ram and 128GB SSD. Unless you're desperate for a giant iPad, which you draw on and attach to a smart keyboard.
 
Yeah, sortakinda. Though the iPP does have a couple of advantages the RT didn't.

Namely, people will likely buy it, and developers will likely make apps for it.

Idk about that. It seems like a bigger niche product market than the iPad has targeted.
 
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The biggest question on everyone's mind is: where do we go from here with tablets?

I suppose a lot of us expected Apple to lead the way, and I guess today they sowed the seeds. But we're still far off from an answer and in reality, Apple just skirted by the question another year.

That's fine, we don't need an answer necessarily in 2015 with everything else going on with TVs and music and watches... The current reality is that the macbook and the iPad pro is as close to the middle as we're going to get, or as far as Apple wants to go really.

The issue is the answer relates directly to the futures of Mac OS (now in it's 16th year of support? approaching Windows XP in age is where I'd like to see how they really handle themselves) and iOS (which is experiencing its own maturity and path that really hasn't been blazed by any other kind of consumer software) and that isn't something Apple will take lightly.
 
If it could have used the new side ports (that the keyboard uses) for charging, it would have been great but maybe that connection isn't strong enough to even keep the pencil in place.

The iPad Pro is beautiful but it looks like a "no go" for me because it doesn't have "3D touch"! Can anyone confirm that the iPad Pro does or does not have 3D touch? o_O

Introducing iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus with 3D Touch

 
haha... I was overdue for a change.

I had been waiting for the reveal of the iPad Pro before deciding what to do about my iPad 2 and iPad 4. Now I know... full steam ahead on getting an Air 2. I believe that it will be the long-hauler of that generation.

I'm also questioning whether there is palm rejection for the Apple Pencil:
See the 3:00 mark....

I wondered that too because all of the first shots showed the hand raised above the display, which would be really uncomfortable. Then that last one showed the hand resting on it. I assume it is up to the developers, but I would think you could have an app setting to only take input from the Pencil (assuming the iPad can identify the Pencil uniquely) and ignore all other touch.


I just don't think I can pull myself to get 2014's iPad Air 2. Especially with the build quality issue.s
 
The iPad Pro is beautiful but it looks like a "no go" for me because it doesn't have "3D touch"! Can anyone confirm that the iPad Pro does or does not have 3D touch?

Introducing iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus with 3D Touch

It's not mentioned on their site and they would have absolutely said something.
 
At the end of the day, this is just a very large device running ....a freaking phone OS. That's right an OS designed and taylor made for a phone for cryin out loud.
We could equally say the Surface is running a freaking desktop OS. That's right, an OS designed and taylor made for a mouse and keyboard on a tablet to be used with touch and without a keyboard or mouse. (Now, the Surface is more like an ultralight laptop and is not used as much as tablet without a keyboard.)

You can argue that a phone OS is useless for a tablet. But we can equally argue that a desktop OS is useless for a tablet. And we might both be right. But that doesn't tell us anything whether a tablet OS should be closer to a phone or a desktop OS. However, given that a tablet is primarily used with your fingers, I think we can argue that a phone OS is much closer to an ideal tablet OS than a desktop OS relying on mouse and cursor.
 
Yeah, sortakinda. Though the iPP does have a couple of advantages the RT didn't.

Namely, people will likely buy it, and developers will likely make apps for it.

When I read that last line, I couldn't help but think "burn!"
 
Ok, so, I can't have been the only one that laughed when they introduced 'Apple Pencil' and the fact they had a video for it!

That said, like most of what Apple does, they manage to take something that other people have done, but advance and expand upon it. And actually making it really good. Easy to laugh at to begin with, but actually looks very useful!

They've taken the Surface Pro 3 and made it worse - a pen that needs to charge, an OS that does so much less than Windows 10, a keyboard with no trackpad, and a kickstand that isn't built in and isn't adjustable. eMMC storage that's much slower than an SSD, no legacy support, no full size USB, no DisplayPort... overall both the hardware and software are so much worse than the competition, it's embarassing. A first for Apple.
 
Who is going to start taking pictures with this giant 13 inch maxi-pad?

Seriously.

They should have left out the camera and reduced the price.
Seriously? You think that saving a $10 component would have changed anything in Apple's pricing?
 
We could equally say the Surface is running a freaking desktop OS. That's right, an OS designed and taylor made for a mouse and keyboard on a tablet to be used with touch and without a keyboard or mouse. (Now, the Surface is more like an ultralight laptop and is not used as much as tablet without a keyboard.)

You can argue that a phone OS is useless for a tablet. But we can equally argue that a desktop OS is useless for a tablet. And we might both be right. But that doesn't tell us anything whether a tablet OS should be closer to a phone or a desktop OS. However, given that a tablet is primarily used with your fingers, I think we can argue that a phone OS is much closer to an ideal tablet OS than a desktop OS relying on mouse and cursor.

You obviously haven't used Windows 10. It's an OS designed extremely well for touch and desktop use, and converts as soon as you remove the keyboard.
 
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I am very curious to see if iOS 9 does anything to help my iPad 3. iOS 8 performance is utterly deplorable. It's a joke. If it helps, I should be pretty content.
 
We could equally say the Surface is running a freaking desktop OS. That's right, an OS designed and taylor made for a mouse and keyboard on a tablet to be used with touch and without a keyboard or mouse. (Now, the Surface is more like an ultralight laptop and is not used as much as tablet without a keyboard.)

You can argue that a phone OS is useless for a tablet. But we can equally argue that a desktop OS is useless for a tablet. And we might both be right. But that doesn't tell us anything whether a tablet OS should be closer to a phone or a desktop OS. However, given that a tablet is primarily used with your fingers, I think we can argue that a phone OS is much closer to an ideal tablet OS than a desktop OS relying on mouse and cursor.
Except windows 8 and 10 is also designed for touch as well..... and runs perfectly great with touch.
 
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I want to want one, but I can't. I've tried to use Excel and Numbers on an iPad and it's a miserable experience compared to a full laptop (macbook air). To be a truly functional enterprise computer replacement, it needs trackpad or mouse support when docked to the keyboard. Trying to select a range of cells, input formula, etc with your finger on the screen and using the keyboard is a PITA.

I use my laptop for photo editing, and the iPad Pro would be PERFECT for this if only it ran full Creative Cloud apps, like Photoshop and Lightroom. It won't since it doesn't utilize OS X which just totally kills the usefulness of the Apple Pencil add-on for me. If the iPad Pro could emulate the functionality of the Cintiq Companion 2 and work along side a Mac or Macbook, that would be great, but not having to be connected to another computer and to have full functionality is what I've been clamoring for. I would have jumped on the Cintiq Companion 2 if it weren't for Windows.

So close but yet so far... Maybe iPad Pro 2, Apple.

The device you're looking for is a Surface Pro 3.
 
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I know I'm in the minority, but I would rather have an OSX (with native iOS support of course) tablet.
Yes, of course. Everybody would like to have a laptop with 'desktop' OS and a tablet with a touch-based OS in a single device in order to only having to carry one device.
 
I think in the UK this will retail for £649 (inc VAT) for the 32GB version and £799 (incl VAT) for the 128GB version. That doesn't include the keyboard, which looks like it'll retail here for possibly as high as £149 (incl. VAT). The high end just isn't worth it, you can get a refurbished 2015 13 inch retina Macbook Pro for £849 (incl VAT) with 8GB ram and 128GB SSD. Unless you're desperate for a giant iPad, which you draw on and attach to a smart keyboard.

It will set you back £1000... I think I would rather get myself a MB or a MBA, if I were in the market for a portable device.
 
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